Porsche 911 (991.1) Carrera 2 GTS | Spotted
Three pedals, seven gears, two seats and 8,000rpm - modern 911s don't come much more desirable
In 2022 it’s hard to imagine a time without GTS models in the Porsche line up, given the badge can be found on everything from Macan to Taycan. But it’s a fairly recent reintroduction to the range, coming back as a swansong for the 997-generation 911 having not been used - we think - since a similar farewell model for the 928 in the mid-1990s, complete with the 5.4-litre V8.
As is now well known, the 997 GTS was a special car, elevating the Carrera to a level beyond that implied by the spec. It was just a really nice sports car, more special than a standard 911 yet less demanding than a contemporary GT3. Which is why they still command so much money.
It came as no surprise, therefore, that Porsche followed up the 997 with a 991 GTS; again towards the end of a model cycle, albeit this time just the first generation of 991 - it wasn’t going to miss such a lucrative trick again. The same methods were employed, with a wider body, standard Powerkit plus a host of desirable cosmetic goodies, with a similar result as well. The 991 couldn’t have the same impact as the 997 did, because it wasn’t the first, but the GTS upgrades made for a heck of a good 911: ‘On the track it wants to be your new best friend - endlessly accommodating, unreasonably forgiving and pleasingly more neutral than lesser 911s’, read the PH review back in 2014. Add to that an improved seven-speed manual, the broad-shouldered good looks and a ‘sneaking suspicion that Porsche has done more to this car than it’s letting on’ and it’s easy to understand why the 991.1 GTS was so fondly thought of. Remember, too, that this car was replaced by the turbocharged 991.2 GTS - the appeal of 430hp at 7,500rpm from a 3.8-litre flat six doesn’t need any more explaining from us.
Both bodystyles and both transmissions were offered for the GTS, as well as rear- or four-wheel drive; what you really wanted, of course, was a two-wheel drive coupe with the manual. Because that was the best one to drive. They don’t come up for sale all that often however as, well, PDK is really good and that’s what lots of buyers went for. Not this time, however, as here’s the GTS holy grail: Carmine Red, two-wheel drive, seven-speed manual. Nice.
There’s more, too, in a really cool (and probably very expensive) spec. See the ducktail, for example, and the bucket seats, with the rears gone altogether for the full road racer vibe. Remember, this was back before the GT3 had a manual again and a few years from a Carrera T. A two-seat GTS was about as focused as three-pedal 991s got, and it promises a great deal. At least once that awful rear wiper has been binned.
Like its predecessor, this 991 has clung on its value incredibly well. In 2014, a Carrera 2 GTS started at £91,098 before options. In 2022, this Carrera 2 GTS - albeit with just 7,000 miles - is £92,995, and that’s not a bad return. At which point it would be remiss not to mention that GT3s of the era (with a few more miles) kick off at this sort of money. And that would undoubtedly be an awesome way to spend the cash. But if it’s manual 911 or nothing - and the £140k of a 991.2 GT3 manual is too much of a stretch - then what a way to spend it this two-seat GTS looks.
SPECIFICATION | PORSCHE 911 (991.1) CARRERA GTS
Engine: 3,800cc flat-6
Transmission: 7-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 430@7,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 324@5,750rpm
0-62mph: 4.4 sec
Top speed: 190mph
Weight: 1,425kg (DIN)
MPG: 29.7mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 223g/km
Year registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 7,000
Price new: £91,098 (before options)
Yours for: £92,995
So I think it has perhaps a 5% markup as a result of this incessant historicising of recent Porsche, but it’s pretty about par with what another auto classified website prices at (top end of dealer suggested retail price was 85k).
also for me it’s a different car to the 997 GT3, it’s not trying to do the same thing - I don’t necessarily think all buyers would be considering both. I’d love a glorious Mezger engine or whatever but I would step over it to get to something like this which is newer, more comfort, suits my limited driving skills but still has involvement
So I think it has perhaps a 5% markup as a result of this incessant historicising of recent Porsche, but it’s pretty about par with what another auto classified website prices at (top end of dealer suggested retail price was 85k).
also for me it’s a different car to the 997 GT3, it’s not trying to do the same thing - I don’t necessarily think all buyers would be considering both. I’d love a glorious Mezger engine or whatever but I would step over it to get to something like this which is newer, more comfort, suits my limited driving skills but still has involvement
Ducktail alone is £3k ish.
So I think it has perhaps a 5% markup as a result of this incessant historicising of recent Porsche, but it’s pretty about par with what another auto classified website prices at (top end of dealer suggested retail price was 85k).
also for me it’s a different car to the 997 GT3, it’s not trying to do the same thing - I don’t necessarily think all buyers would be considering both. I’d love a glorious Mezger engine or whatever but I would step over it to get to something like this which is newer, more comfort, suits my limited driving skills but still has involvement
£90k for a basically new, last of the N/A 911 in highest non GT state of tune, manual gearbox in a very nice spec (no fan of reds 911 usually, and I hate black wheels, but this is gorgeous
)? Dare I say it, this looks actually good value to me...Not everybody wants a GT3 for everyday driving. This is a better daily driver than a 997 GT3 in 99% of the time.
The question is who buys it? You either have someone who puts it away, or you have someone who actually drives it. I'd be the latter. With lead times of 1.5 years for a new 992, and a sticker price around £140k with some options, I see this as an ready to collect alternative to a brand new GTS for £50k less.
So I think it has perhaps a 5% markup as a result of this incessant historicising of recent Porsche...
I'm not sure I like the painted red interior trim, but that's me. On the subject of red paint, it's interesting that the article above correctly mentions Carmine Red, yet the seller - an alleged Porsche specialist - does the laziest thing a clueless Porsche vendor can do & lists it as Guards Red in the ad.
I would take a standard 911 Carrera S for £50k and stick some better suspension and a sports exhaust on it personally....
You mean design or this car as its 2015, and with my dazzing maths skills I make that seven years old ?
When explained it makes sense the price, and seems to be a bit of a goldilocks of the 911 world, looks fantastic. I know you can get a 997 cheaper but this has done 7000 miles, no engine worries and can go and get it now. Its probably enough 911 for most, I think its easy to gravitate to a GT car and then end up struggling day to day or not using it in favour of something comfier.
I would take a standard 911 Carrera S for £50k and stick some better suspension and a sports exhaust on it personally....
You mean design or this car as its 2015, and with my dazzing maths skills I make that seven years old ?
When explained it makes sense the price, and seems to be a bit of a goldilocks of the 911 world, looks fantastic. I know you can get a 997 cheaper but this has done 7000 miles, no engine worries and can go and get it now. Its probably enough 911 for most, I think its easy to gravitate to a GT car and then end up struggling day to day or not using it in favour of something comfier.
I wasn't referring to a 997, I meant a normal 991 Carrera S manual (typo)
This is £32k cheaper and if you stuck some better suspension on its essentially the same car for a lot less money. I am sure the exhaust fitted to this probably halves the power gap which was only 30bhp anyway.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209300...
I am sure this will hold its value better but with that low a mileage you can't really drive it much and if you are going to keep the miles low then I would stretch a bit more for a GT3 and just get a warranty.
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