Switching to an EV
Discussion
Hi All
first off, I am a Motability user, so won't have to worry about much apart from charging, but I test drove a Peugeot E2008 the other day, and was very impressed.
I decided on this because it has a very reasonable upfront payment, plenty of room for the kids, and a decent range.
What I'm struggling to get my head around, is all this miles per kilowatt and trying to work out how much charging will cost.
At the moment, I'm not on an EV specific tariff and I'm probably looking at ordering next month for delivery around July next year as that's when my current car is to be returned but i'm just trying to get my head around terminology like miles per KW and the cost of charging, how much it will cost etc. I've seen average costs banded around but just wanted to know how to work it all out.
The Peugeot has a 50KW battery and will do just over 200 miles on a charge.
Will be my first EV and I was very impressed!
Many Thanks
James
first off, I am a Motability user, so won't have to worry about much apart from charging, but I test drove a Peugeot E2008 the other day, and was very impressed.
I decided on this because it has a very reasonable upfront payment, plenty of room for the kids, and a decent range.
What I'm struggling to get my head around, is all this miles per kilowatt and trying to work out how much charging will cost.
At the moment, I'm not on an EV specific tariff and I'm probably looking at ordering next month for delivery around July next year as that's when my current car is to be returned but i'm just trying to get my head around terminology like miles per KW and the cost of charging, how much it will cost etc. I've seen average costs banded around but just wanted to know how to work it all out.
The Peugeot has a 50KW battery and will do just over 200 miles on a charge.
Will be my first EV and I was very impressed!
Many Thanks
James
raspy said:
I had a mokka-e with the same battery.
When it comes to 200 miles on a full charge, that's in ideal conditions. Driving on the motorway at higher speeds in colder weather it was down to 120 miles range.
that would do us for a few days anyway, range not such a huge issue. We will be using the car for work but can't see us exceeding 35-40 miles a day.When it comes to 200 miles on a full charge, that's in ideal conditions. Driving on the motorway at higher speeds in colder weather it was down to 120 miles range.
Thanks for the calculations above. My aim when my tariff is up in March is to switch to octopus as they seem to offer cheaper overnight charging (/edit - seems my current provider - EONNext do an EV tariff too so maybe I can just switch to that!)
Edited by James_N on Monday 14th November 11:38
James_N said:
raspy said:
I had a mokka-e with the same battery.
When it comes to 200 miles on a full charge, that's in ideal conditions. Driving on the motorway at higher speeds in colder weather it was down to 120 miles range.
that would do us for a few days anyway, range not such a huge issue. We will be using the car for work but can't see us exceeding 35-40 miles a day.When it comes to 200 miles on a full charge, that's in ideal conditions. Driving on the motorway at higher speeds in colder weather it was down to 120 miles range.
Thanks for the calculations above. My aim when my tariff is up in March is to switch to octopus as they seem to offer cheaper overnight charging.
If you can utilize the off peak, then it makes it cheaper much cheaper overall. Last month 62% of our usage was during the 4 hours @ 7.5p/kW.
Maracus said:
It is cheaper, but your day rate will be 7p/kW higher.
If you can utilize the off peak, then it makes it cheaper much cheaper overall. Last month 62% of our usage was during the 4 hours @ 7.5p/kW.
Yes, I'd just set it to charge at the cheaper rates.If you can utilize the off peak, then it makes it cheaper much cheaper overall. Last month 62% of our usage was during the 4 hours @ 7.5p/kW.
Genuinely excited about getting an EV. I think it will suit our usage as a family just fine.
It drove really nicely, sport mode (even with modest power and battery) was good fun.
James_N said:
Maracus said:
It is cheaper, but your day rate will be 7p/kW higher.
If you can utilize the off peak, then it makes it cheaper much cheaper overall. Last month 62% of our usage was during the 4 hours @ 7.5p/kW.
Yes, I'd just set it to charge at the cheaper rates.If you can utilize the off peak, then it makes it cheaper much cheaper overall. Last month 62% of our usage was during the 4 hours @ 7.5p/kW.
Genuinely excited about getting an EV. I think it will suit our usage as a family just fine.
It drove really nicely, sport mode (even with modest power and battery) was good fun.
Look at the citroen e-c4, DS3 and vauxhall mokka - all the same basic car. Might find the citroen cheaper
I think its 50kwh battery but only 45 useable, I'd work on between 3 and 4 miles/kwh so roughly 120 - 180 miles real world range depending on weather/temp/speed etc.
I thought the car was a nice place to be but too small for us - rear space no good.
I think its 50kwh battery but only 45 useable, I'd work on between 3 and 4 miles/kwh so roughly 120 - 180 miles real world range depending on weather/temp/speed etc.
I thought the car was a nice place to be but too small for us - rear space no good.
Hi James,
we recently had loan of a Vauxhall Corsa for a few weeks (same underpinnings as an e-208) and range in even this relatively mild weather has been more like 150 miles, appreciate the 2008 is a slighlty different car but range on that is lower.
We usually drive a Kia Soul EV and would really suggest looking at Kias for affordability before committing to the Peugeot - we paid less for the Soul than the list of the 2008, it may be it's cheaper on Motability too. Everything about the Kia, bar looks, is better then our experience of the Corsa. Apprecaite the Peugeot may have different GUI and interior./ but the overall feel and experience was light years behind even our old design Kia.
we recently had loan of a Vauxhall Corsa for a few weeks (same underpinnings as an e-208) and range in even this relatively mild weather has been more like 150 miles, appreciate the 2008 is a slighlty different car but range on that is lower.
We usually drive a Kia Soul EV and would really suggest looking at Kias for affordability before committing to the Peugeot - we paid less for the Soul than the list of the 2008, it may be it's cheaper on Motability too. Everything about the Kia, bar looks, is better then our experience of the Corsa. Apprecaite the Peugeot may have different GUI and interior./ but the overall feel and experience was light years behind even our old design Kia.
Edited by boombang on Monday 14th November 15:00
A work colleague's wife has a 2008 EV. First of all she hated it as she couldn't cane it on motorways at 75mph for 150 miles or more without charging. Now she sticks to 60 and no longer has the dreaded range anxiety.
OP: get into your head that excess speed kills EV range. Every other difference with ICE is positive: cheaper servicing, higher resale (if you own it of course), quieter at low speeds, much less stress to drive around town, smoother, filling up at home for most of us, better tech. etc. (although it's a steep learning curve l). Good luck, enjoy it!
OP: get into your head that excess speed kills EV range. Every other difference with ICE is positive: cheaper servicing, higher resale (if you own it of course), quieter at low speeds, much less stress to drive around town, smoother, filling up at home for most of us, better tech. etc. (although it's a steep learning curve l). Good luck, enjoy it!
Maybe because they are in jobs that do not require them to be endlessly rushing around, some people value their own safety, or their own time more than you seem to, not everyone wants or needs to rush everywhere. And I kight add with that lifestyle usually come other less desirable personality traits
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