MOT Advisory Nonsense
Discussion
Just had my car MOTd. I've taken it to the same tester for about 10 years and they are usually very fair. I service the car myself.
This time I got an advisory for Drive belt worn, but not excessively [6.1.7(c)(i).
WTF? Section 6.1.7 refers to transmission drive belts etc
It's a Kia C'eed Diesel, there are no transmission drive belts.
I can only think that they are referring to the serpentine belt, but since when was that part of the transmission or even MOT testable?
I feel I should report them.
This time I got an advisory for Drive belt worn, but not excessively [6.1.7(c)(i).
WTF? Section 6.1.7 refers to transmission drive belts etc
It's a Kia C'eed Diesel, there are no transmission drive belts.
I can only think that they are referring to the serpentine belt, but since when was that part of the transmission or even MOT testable?
I feel I should report them.
bikeman2 said:
Just had my car MOTd. I've taken it to the same tester for about 10 years and they are usually very fair. I service the car myself.
This time I got an advisory for Drive belt worn, but not excessively [6.1.7(c)(i).
WTF? Section 6.1.7 refers to transmission drive belts etc
It's a Kia C'eed Diesel, there are no transmission drive belts.
I can only think that they are referring to the serpentine belt, but since when was that part of the transmission or even MOT testable?
I feel I should report them.
Why??This time I got an advisory for Drive belt worn, but not excessively [6.1.7(c)(i).
WTF? Section 6.1.7 refers to transmission drive belts etc
It's a Kia C'eed Diesel, there are no transmission drive belts.
I can only think that they are referring to the serpentine belt, but since when was that part of the transmission or even MOT testable?
I feel I should report them.
Even if the engine is a timing chain there can still be a drive belt for the water pump and alternator?
How is them putting a sensible advisory for a noticably worn belt a bad thing?
What do you expect VOSA to say to you? Its not like they have put a comedy advisory like in the past - "drivers choice of CD is crap" or something similarly daft.
Because its a drive belt for the water pump, alternator and aircon.
It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
But most importantly its not part of the MOT test because it has nothing to do the transmission which is what section 6.1.7 is for.
MOT's test specific things for roadworthiness, they are not supposed to be giving advisories to drum up work. He may as well given me an advisory to change the cabin filter or get it cleaned.
It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
But most importantly its not part of the MOT test because it has nothing to do the transmission which is what section 6.1.7 is for.
MOT's test specific things for roadworthiness, they are not supposed to be giving advisories to drum up work. He may as well given me an advisory to change the cabin filter or get it cleaned.
In reality the tester should have just given you a heads up, but by putting an advisory he has "covered" himself. You never know perhaps the tester has had warnings or some bad luck and now feels he needs to document stuff like that.
It is annoying though, I self maintain as well and always aim for a green pass. Advisories feel like a failure in my maintenance.
It is annoying though, I self maintain as well and always aim for a green pass. Advisories feel like a failure in my maintenance.
I suspect most MOT testers now have never seen a DAF CVT so they see "drive belt" and think it must mean the accessory drive belt.
I share your annoyance at advisories for BS (when it comes to selling time you can guarantee at least one viewer will ask if it's been done and try to haggle over it if not) but at least it helps scare away buyers who will get it home then demand you refund them £1k because their wife doesn't like the colour of the car.
I share your annoyance at advisories for BS (when it comes to selling time you can guarantee at least one viewer will ask if it's been done and try to haggle over it if not) but at least it helps scare away buyers who will get it home then demand you refund them £1k because their wife doesn't like the colour of the car.
bikeman2 said:
Because its a drive belt for the water pump, alternator and aircon.
It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
Hmm, what if it fails on the outside lane of the motorway, still just an inconvenience ?It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
Maybe just get the belt changed ?
I had a crash four years ago, down to a battery, someone decided to not change theirs and their car conked out on the three lane section of dual carriageway. Anyway, the chap whos battery conked out called his dad to give him a jump start and to get his car nose to nose hid did a U turn across the dual carriageway, he thought there was nobody there when there was, me.
So his car got written off and significant damage to the company one I was in.
But, a battery, not a safety item....
Anything that can fail and potentially strand your car is a safety item, get it changed.
"Report them" ffs.
blue_haddock said:
Why??
Even if the engine is a timing chain there can still be a drive belt for the water pump and alternator?
How is them putting a sensible advisory for a noticably worn belt a bad thing?
What do you expect VOSA to say to you? Its not like they have put a comedy advisory like in the past - "drivers choice of CD is crap" or something similarly daft.
They appear to have put an advisory which is factually incorrect. the car doesn't HAVE a transmission drive belt so how can the Tester say it's worn?Even if the engine is a timing chain there can still be a drive belt for the water pump and alternator?
How is them putting a sensible advisory for a noticably worn belt a bad thing?
What do you expect VOSA to say to you? Its not like they have put a comedy advisory like in the past - "drivers choice of CD is crap" or something similarly daft.
If he was commenting on the timing belt or one of the Aux belts then that is what the advisory should have been for, but It can't because (as has been said, they're not testable items).
J4CKO said:
Hmm, what if it fails on the outside lane of the motorway, still just an inconvenience ?
Maybe just get the belt changed ?
I had a crash four years ago, down to a battery, someone decided to not change theirs and their car conked out on the three lane section of dual carriageway. Anyway, the chap whos battery conked out called his dad to give him a jump start and to get his car nose to nose hid did a U turn across the dual carriageway, he thought there was nobody there when there was, me.
So his car got written off and significant damage to the company one I was in.
But, a battery, not a safety item....
Anything that can fail and potentially strand your car is a safety item, get it changed.
"Report them" ffs.
Why not tell the owners separately? Why does it need to go on the MOT (against an incorrect category)?Maybe just get the belt changed ?
I had a crash four years ago, down to a battery, someone decided to not change theirs and their car conked out on the three lane section of dual carriageway. Anyway, the chap whos battery conked out called his dad to give him a jump start and to get his car nose to nose hid did a U turn across the dual carriageway, he thought there was nobody there when there was, me.
So his car got written off and significant damage to the company one I was in.
But, a battery, not a safety item....
Anything that can fail and potentially strand your car is a safety item, get it changed.
"Report them" ffs.
Blimey, mechanics cant win, the tester was only trying to warn you that your car needs a new belt.
If it had failed on the way home from the test, i bet you would be on here complaining that you werent warned about it.
And if you are doing your own servicing, maybe you arent doing as good a job as you think!
If it had failed on the way home from the test, i bet you would be on here complaining that you werent warned about it.
And if you are doing your own servicing, maybe you arent doing as good a job as you think!
You're right, they've incorrectly applied that requirement, it's not relevant to your car and they shouldn't have noted it as an advisory.
I'd have a polite discussion with them first, though, immediately pushing it up the chain for something that doesn't actually mean anything seems a bit excessive.
I'd have a polite discussion with them first, though, immediately pushing it up the chain for something that doesn't actually mean anything seems a bit excessive.
andybracing said:
Blimey, mechanics cant win, the tester was only trying to warn you that your car needs a new belt.
If it had failed on the way home from the test, i bet you would be on here complaining that you werent warned about it.
And if you are doing your own servicing, maybe you arent doing as good a job as you think!
Telling the owner it's looking past its best, good.If it had failed on the way home from the test, i bet you would be on here complaining that you werent warned about it.
And if you are doing your own servicing, maybe you arent doing as good a job as you think!
Putting it down as an MOT advisory when it isn't, bad.
bikeman2 said:
Because its a drive belt for the water pump, alternator and aircon.
It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
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So the belt snaps whilst doing 60 mph down an A road and suddenly you lose your power steering its just an Inconvenience.It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
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Let me know how that pans out!
blue_haddock said:
bikeman2 said:
Because its a drive belt for the water pump, alternator and aircon.
It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
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So the belt snaps whilst doing 60 mph down an A road and suddenly you lose your power steering its just an Inconvenience.It's not a safety item and if it fails it would just be an inconvenience.
.
Let me know how that pans out!
Lots of pearl clutching whataboutism on this thread.
Jimmy No Hands said:
Countdown said:
Why not tell the owners separately? Why does it need to go on the MOT (against an incorrect category)?
Because it covers their arses, what good is a quiet word going to do? Black and white every time. 
tter of a Kia Ceed, no one cares about an advisory.I advise the auxiliary belt if it drives a power steering pump. The tester has clearly tried to advise it and made a mistake by selecting the wrong section to do it in. I can't imagine DVSA would be interested but their boss may be, it sounds like they need a bit of guidance.
Edited by Little Pete on Monday 14th November 14:10
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