Central London 20 mph limits & new tariffs
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A friend, who I know is not a bulls
tter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph).
He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
tter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph). He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
runnerbean 14 said:
A friend, who I know is not a bullstter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph).
He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
Was he offered an FPN / Course, didn't take it and then went to court?tter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph). He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
Consistent with the table here: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/speeding-...
runnerbean 14 said:
A friend, who I know is not a bullstter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph).
He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
Where and when was any part of the Embankment 40mph? Plus the signage along there for the 20's really clear, and its been the current speed limits for an age.tter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph). He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
I think it was a 30 back in the 90's, but it has been a 20 for a bloody long time now and I don't recall it ever being a 40!
Also, by "those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles" do you mean the speed cameras that have been there for donkeys years under Waterloo Bridge, or the newer but still about 10 year old cameras by Blackfriars? The Police occasionally have a bike officer sat with a hand held device opposite the Met police car park but other than that there haven't been any new cameras in that area for a very long time.
Also, by "those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles" do you mean the speed cameras that have been there for donkeys years under Waterloo Bridge, or the newer but still about 10 year old cameras by Blackfriars? The Police occasionally have a bike officer sat with a hand held device opposite the Met police car park but other than that there haven't been any new cameras in that area for a very long time.
When I lived in London in the 90s it was a 30 limit, I honestly cannot see why it is a 20 now.
I do remember driving down the embankment on Christmas Day morning at 6am, it was absolutely deserted (of course) yet all of the pedestrian crossings were turning red despite no one being around to press the buttons. That was the first time I realised they turned red to slow traffic, not just to allow pedestrians to cross.
I do remember driving down the embankment on Christmas Day morning at 6am, it was absolutely deserted (of course) yet all of the pedestrian crossings were turning red despite no one being around to press the buttons. That was the first time I realised they turned red to slow traffic, not just to allow pedestrians to cross.
runnerbean 14 said:
A friend, who I know is not a bullstter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph).
He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
34/20 mph is usually a £100 Fixed Penalty with 3 points. The case is dealt with by the police without reference to the court.tter, was caught doing 34 mph recently by one of those now ubiquitous electronic speed cameras on poles, riding his commuter bike on the Embankment (formerly 40 mph, now 20 mph). He tells me the fine was £900 (possibly income related) and FIVE points to add to the three he already has. He thinks that the tariffs may have changed - does anyone know for sure?
I’m surprised this was dealt with with by the court - presumably via the Single Justice Procedure.
If court proceedings are instituted then 34/20 mph would often be 5 points. There is a fine of up to £1000, but income is taken into account and after pleading guilty at the first opportunity the usual fine is two-thirds of net weekly income.
I suspect the fine mentioned is actually fine, costs and surcharge.
Edited by agtlaw on Thursday 17th November 08:49
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