OG M2 Vs M4 Comp

[06andiano]

Hi,

Having a bit of a wrangle as to which way to go there is about £4-5k in it pricewise. For both options I am thinking to go DCT, I don't necessarily need the size of the M4 (I am coming from an I30N Fastback) and I plan on daily using the car (no track work realistically).

I am looking at M4 Comps 18 plate so these shouldn't have a GPF so sound comparison between the two?
Fun factor, M2 is smaller more chuckable? but there isn't a lot in the size between them?
Depreciation probably similar, both mass produced and readily available.
Pure performance, M4 likely ahead but by how much? and how much can you actually use?

Would appreciate anyone's thoughts who has run both or have strong opinions as to which way to go?

[nickfrog]

Both great choices. Decent performance difference on paper if you can find somewhere to find out that is not a race track. Both traction limited. The N55 sounds far better IME.

M2 a bit cheaper to run.

M4 interior nicer.

Same width but the M2 has a shorter wheelbase which you might or might not like. I would suggest a lengthy test drive of both.

[WilsonWilson]

Happy to be corrected but, as far as I could tell, all 18 plate M4s will be GPF. It changes the sound a lot and no pops and bangs (which you may prefer!). There are 2017 cars out there that are LCI but not GPF. So they get the facelift changes and still have the carbon fiber prop shaft as well. It was dropped on the Comp once the GPF came in.

[cerb4.5lee]

You will enjoy both I reckon. Just be aware that the ride in the standard F82 M4 is harsh with the 19" wheels as it is, and the majority of CP cars come with the 20" wheels which are not only bigger but also slightly lower profile too.

Weight wise there isn't that much between the 2, but as said the M2 does have a shorter wheelbase, and from what I read the majority say that the M2 is the more fun car overall.

[cerb4.5lee]

WilsonWilson said:

Happy to be corrected but, as far as I could tell, all 18 plate M4s will be GPF.

I'm not a 100% sure, but I think that some of 18 plate cars won't be GPF(March to June 2018 production), but all of the 68 plate cars will be though. I think the GPFs were fitted to the M4 from July 2018 production onwards.

Or to be a 100% sure just buy a 2017 car as you say.

[Smuler]

OPF on the Ms was late Summer/Autumn 2018 after they ceased M3 production in about June/July.

That is why there are no M3's with them and no CS models of either variant with them. And also no OG M2s.

So you will definitely get 18 plate M4s with no OPF.

In fact you may not get any with.

I notice the later cars on BMW Approved Used site say

Rde exhaust emissions standard

Example of a Sept reg'd 68 plate

https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202210311235649...

[cerb4.5lee]

Smuler said:

OPF on the Ms was late Summer/Autumn 2018 after they ceased M3 production in about June/July.

That is why there are no M3's with them and no CS models of either variant with them. And also no OG M2s.

So you will definitely get 18 plate M4s with no OPF.

In fact you may not get any with.

I notice the later cars on BMW Approved Used site say

Rde exhaust emissions standard

Example of a Sept reg'd 68 plate

https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202210311235649...

Mine is a 68 plate(built Dec 2018) and it has the OPFs. It also has the red starter button too, and I wonder if that means that it has the OPFs fitted?

I thought that the OPFs were to blame for the loss of the pops and bangs, but someone on here told me that his 2016 plate model didn't have the pops and bangs on it either. So I presume that only the very early cars come with the pops and bangs?

Mine sounds quite good on the cold start...but sadly that only lasts a few seconds though! I can live without the pops and bangs, but I'd definitely prefer it to be much more vocal from its exhaust overall though.

[MWM3]

Having owned both, the M2 is the better drivers car but the M4 is a better overall package in terms of interior and creature comforts.

You can't go wrong with either as both are great cars but it will come down to whether you want a drivers car or a slightly more rounded package as a daily driver.

Edited by MWM3 on Tuesday 22 November 15:57

[cerb4.5lee]

MWM3 said:

Having owned both, the M2 is the better drivers car but the M4 is a better overall package in terms of interior and creature comforts.

You can't go wrong with either as both are great cars but it will come down to whether you want a drivers car or a more rounded package as a daily driver.

Which has the better ride the M2 or the M4? I'm really happy with M4 as an overall performance car, however the ride does my tree in though. Even with the suspension in the Comfort setting the ride is still rock hard, and not ideal for a daily driver for me.

I wish that I could have the chassis/suspension/ride with the EDC from the E92 M3 that I had, but with the M4's S55 engine rather than the S65 engine from the M3. That would pretty much be the perfect car for me I reckon.

The M3's chassis/suspension/ride was ace I thought, but I much prefer the lower down punch/overall performance from the S55 engine in the M4 though.

[06andiano]

I have just put a deposit down on this
https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202209099608620...
BMW Leeds were really good letting me have the keys to a CompM3 pre-gpf, an OGM2, M4Comp post opf and the M2Comp. Had a good afternoon enjoying them all unaccompanied. M3 was too big to feel like I could really push and was very twitchy, M4 didn't sound good, OGM2 was nice but price wasn't on the money and the M2Comp just suited me perfectly. Going to add car play and maybe alter exhaust slightly but it is a great car.

[cerb4.5lee]

06andiano said:

I have just put a deposit down on this
https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202209099608620...
BMW Leeds were really good letting me have the keys to a CompM3 pre-gpf, an OGM2, M4Comp post opf and the M2Comp. Had a good afternoon enjoying them all unaccompanied. M3 was too big to feel like I could really push and was very twitchy, M4 didn't sound good, OGM2 was nice but price wasn't on the money and the M2Comp just suited me perfectly. Going to add car play and maybe alter exhaust slightly but it is a great car.

Nice one! You will enjoy that for sure I reckon.

That was great that the dealer let you sample all those cars for definite.

Enjoy collecting it, and you will have to keep us all updated with it too.

[ftypical]

cerb4.5lee said:

Which has the better ride the M2 or the M4? I'm really happy with M4 as an overall performance car, however the ride does my tree in though. Even with the suspension in the Comfort setting the ride is still rock hard, and not ideal for a daily driver for me.

I wish that I could have the chassis/suspension/ride with the EDC from the E92 M3 that I had, but with the M4's S55 engine rather than the S65 engine from the M3. That would pretty much be the perfect car for me I reckon.

The M3's chassis/suspension/ride was ace I thought, but I much prefer the lower down punch/overall performance from the S55 engine in the M4 though.

The M2 is not for you if you find the M4 uncomfortable...

[Terminator X]

I had a M2c and now have a 2018 M3. Size wise they don't seem that different to me. Surprisingly the weight is also similar!

TX.

[Terminator X]

WilsonWilson said:

Happy to be corrected but, as far as I could tell, all 18 plate M4s will be GPF. It changes the sound a lot and no pops and bangs (which you may prefer!). There are 2017 cars out there that are LCI but not GPF. So they get the facelift changes and still have the carbon fiber prop shaft as well. It was dropped on the Comp once the GPF came in.

My 2018 M3 definitely has no gpf.

TX.

Edit - 18 plate though as someone said above.

Edited by Terminator X on Tuesday 22 November 20:06

[MWM3]

cerb4.5lee said:

Which has the better ride the M2 or the M4? I'm really happy with M4 as an overall performance car, however the ride does my tree in though. Even with the suspension in the Comfort setting the ride is still rock hard, and not ideal for a daily driver for me.

I wish that I could have the chassis/suspension/ride with the EDC from the E92 M3 that I had, but with the M4's S55 engine rather than the S65 engine from the M3. That would pretty much be the perfect car for me I reckon.

The M3's chassis/suspension/ride was ace I thought, but I much prefer the lower down punch/overall performance from the S55 engine in the M4 though.

I would say the ride in both are similar, The M2 maybe a touch softer especially in the comfort setting but I really didn't mind the 'hard' setting when in sports or sport +, so was never to concerned with this on either car.

[cerb4.5lee]

MWM3 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Which has the better ride the M2 or the M4? I'm really happy with M4 as an overall performance car, however the ride does my tree in though. Even with the suspension in the Comfort setting the ride is still rock hard, and not ideal for a daily driver for me.

I wish that I could have the chassis/suspension/ride with the EDC from the E92 M3 that I had, but with the M4's S55 engine rather than the S65 engine from the M3. That would pretty much be the perfect car for me I reckon.

The M3's chassis/suspension/ride was ace I thought, but I much prefer the lower down punch/overall performance from the S55 engine in the M4 though.

I would say the ride in both are similar, The M2 maybe a touch softer especially in the comfort setting but I really didn't mind the 'hard' setting when in sports or sport +, so was never to concerned with this on either car.

I didn't realise that you could get the adjustable dampers in the M2, because all the ones I've looked at have had the button blanked off.

[nickfrog]

cerb4.5lee said:

I didn't realise that you could get the adjustable dampers in the M2, because all the ones I've looked at have had the button blanked off.

Only the M2 CS has adaptive dampers. The OG and Comp are on passive springs so the modes don't affect the ride.

[cerb4.5lee]

nickfrog said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I didn't realise that you could get the adjustable dampers in the M2, because all the ones I've looked at have had the button blanked off.

Only the M2 CS has adaptive dampers. The OG and Comp are on passive springs so the modes don't affect the ride.

Thanks Nick. I do wonder what the M4 would ride like on passive springs, because my BIL's E93 M3 rides nicely enough on the passive springs. I also thought that your M2 had a nice ride, but I only got to experience that as a passenger next to you on a track though! Were you happy enough with the ride on the road?

[MWM3]

nickfrog said:

Only the M2 CS has adaptive dampers. The OG and Comp are on passive springs so the modes don't affect the ride.

You are right but I always found the ride to be softer when in comfort setting. Maybe that was just a placebo.

[nickfrog]

MWM3 said:

You are right but I always found the ride to be softer when in comfort setting. Maybe that was just a placebo.

It must be. Or perhaps the aggressive throttle response creates more NVH through the engine mounts? (clutching at straws here) and a general feeling of "intensity".