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Hi, its hard to search for this specific question so I apologies if its been covered,
My daily commute has just been changed from MOSTLY NSL (Mix of single and dual carriageway) down to 50mph.
They have put repeaters all the way along the route (about 7 miles) but nowhere do I go through a pair of 50 signs (one on either side of the road) so is the 50 limit legally enforceable? I'm not sure if they've missed putting the signs up or just haven't got round to it yet but my understanding is that unless I drive through a pair of speed limit signs then it doesn't matter what the repeaters say? is that right?
My daily commute has just been changed from MOSTLY NSL (Mix of single and dual carriageway) down to 50mph.
They have put repeaters all the way along the route (about 7 miles) but nowhere do I go through a pair of 50 signs (one on either side of the road) so is the 50 limit legally enforceable? I'm not sure if they've missed putting the signs up or just haven't got round to it yet but my understanding is that unless I drive through a pair of speed limit signs then it doesn't matter what the repeaters say? is that right?
BigBazza said:
Hi, its hard to search for this specific question so I apologies if its been covered,
My daily commute has just been changed from MOSTLY NSL (Mix of single and dual carriageway) down to 50mph.
They have put repeaters all the way along the route (about 7 miles) but nowhere do I go through a pair of 50 signs (one on either side of the road) so is the 50 limit legally enforceable? I'm not sure if they've missed putting the signs up or just haven't got round to it yet but my understanding is that unless I drive through a pair of speed limit signs then it doesn't matter what the repeaters say? is that right?
Did you use to pass NSL start signs before the change ?My daily commute has just been changed from MOSTLY NSL (Mix of single and dual carriageway) down to 50mph.
They have put repeaters all the way along the route (about 7 miles) but nowhere do I go through a pair of 50 signs (one on either side of the road) so is the 50 limit legally enforceable? I'm not sure if they've missed putting the signs up or just haven't got round to it yet but my understanding is that unless I drive through a pair of speed limit signs then it doesn't matter what the repeaters say? is that right?
Edited by covboy on Tuesday 22 November 15:48
BigBazza said:
Hi, its hard to search for this specific question so I apologies if its been covered,
My daily commute has just been changed from MOSTLY NSL (Mix of single and dual carriageway) down to 50mph.
They have put repeaters all the way along the route (about 7 miles) but nowhere do I go through a pair of 50 signs (one on either side of the road) so is the 50 limit legally enforceable? I'm not sure if they've missed putting the signs up or just haven't got round to it yet but my understanding is that unless I drive through a pair of speed limit signs then it doesn't matter what the repeaters say? is that right?
I understand that the requirement for pairs of limit signs at the start of a new limit zone has been removed, and now a single sign will suffice & be enforceable.My daily commute has just been changed from MOSTLY NSL (Mix of single and dual carriageway) down to 50mph.
They have put repeaters all the way along the route (about 7 miles) but nowhere do I go through a pair of 50 signs (one on either side of the road) so is the 50 limit legally enforceable? I'm not sure if they've missed putting the signs up or just haven't got round to it yet but my understanding is that unless I drive through a pair of speed limit signs then it doesn't matter what the repeaters say? is that right?
Aren't repeaters there for roads with a different speed limit that join the main road with the 50 speed limit on?
So you go through say a 50, pass a turn off, there's another 50 sign to notify the new joiners to that road
Or there are no turn offs, so the first 50 sign is the speed limit and you won't be reminded again til either a turn off arrives or the speed limit changes?
That's what I've generally believed anyhoo....
So you go through say a 50, pass a turn off, there's another 50 sign to notify the new joiners to that road
Or there are no turn offs, so the first 50 sign is the speed limit and you won't be reminded again til either a turn off arrives or the speed limit changes?
That's what I've generally believed anyhoo....
BigBazza said:
covboy said:
Did you use to pass NSL start signs before the change ?
Yes, there is still ONE where the pair used to be, then nothing until the repeaters a couple of miles later.Edited by covboy on Tuesday 22 November 15:48
covboy said:
Do you mean a NSL sign or new 50mph ?
One NSL where there used to be a pair, then the next sign you pass is a small 50 repeater on the main A-road after joining at a roundabout. Even if only one sign is needed I thought it had to be a terminal sign rather than just a repeater?oyster said:
2 choices OP:
1. Absorb the changed limit and leave 20-30 seconds earlier.
2. Try it out - drive at previous speeds until tested by legalities of new limit.
Given the obscurities in your claim, would you take the advice of PHers in the safety of your licence?
I've no intention of testing it, just curious. Its not a "claim" and i've not had any issue with it. Its certainly only going to cost a minute or 2 on my commute so thats no problem either. 1. Absorb the changed limit and leave 20-30 seconds earlier.
2. Try it out - drive at previous speeds until tested by legalities of new limit.
Given the obscurities in your claim, would you take the advice of PHers in the safety of your licence?
The legislation is here if you want to check to satisfy yourself (and need it to point at if you get a ticket!) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/conte...
Doesn't sound like you intend to go tear-arsing around but if you are going to test it just be aware that others will probably be following the new (possibly unenforceable) limit.
Doesn't sound like you intend to go tear-arsing around but if you are going to test it just be aware that others will probably be following the new (possibly unenforceable) limit.
donkmeister said:
The legislation is here if you want to check to satisfy yourself (and need it to point at if you get a ticket!) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/conte...
Doesn't sound like you intend to go tear-arsing around but if you are going to test it just be aware that others will probably be following the new (possibly unenforceable) limit.
Can you point to the part where it says two terminal signs are a requirement?Doesn't sound like you intend to go tear-arsing around but if you are going to test it just be aware that others will probably be following the new (possibly unenforceable) limit.
You may want to have a look at 13.2 of this DfT circular.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Also, TSM Chapter 3.
Edited by agtlaw on Wednesday 23 November 12:03
agtlaw said:
Can you point to the part where it says two terminal signs are a requirement?
You may want to have a look at 13.2 of this DfT circular.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Also, TSM Chapter 3.
Thanks for that, helpful. Didn't realise things had been relaxed in 2016. I STILL don't think there is a terminal sign when initially entering the new 50 limit but it does explain the single NSL sign. Thank you.You may want to have a look at 13.2 of this DfT circular.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Also, TSM Chapter 3.
Edited by agtlaw on Wednesday 23 November 12:03
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