Screw in tyre - usual questions

Screw in tyre - usual questions

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Pica-Pica

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15,145 posts

98 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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I have noticed a slow lowering of tyre pressure off my TPMS. Today it tripped a warning on the screen. I pumped the tyre up from 31psi to 41psi (usually 39 psi) and checked the tyre. I thought I’d monitor how it went. Anyway, back at home, I found the culprit below.
Tyres are 255/40-R18 Goodyear EfficientGrip runflats with 5.5 to 6 mm tread left.

Question is, I assume this is a quick and cheap repair with a plug? Does the wheel need to come off? Any ideas of cost for plugging? Any issues with plugging? Repairs on tyres are new to me, on the rare occasions that I have had a puncture, my tyres are usually low in tread and a new tyre was always pretty cheap (of course these runflats are not cheap, hence the questions about tyre plugging).

757

3,801 posts

125 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Yep, repairable - take it to any tyre place, yes tyre will need to come off and re-done while repair/plug is done - expect £20

sixor8

6,943 posts

282 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Can you repair run-flats the same way as a 'standard' tyre?

Aunty Pasty

782 posts

52 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Don't see why not. The screw looks to be within the tread repairable area.

Pica-Pica

Original Poster:

15,145 posts

98 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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757 said:
Yep, repairable - take it to any tyre place, yes tyre will need to come off and re-done while repair/plug is done - expect £20
I’m concerned about paying £20 and the tyre comes off, then I’m left with a damaged rim and £xx of rim repair!

757

3,801 posts

125 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
I’m concerned about paying £20 and the tyre comes off, then I’m left with a damaged rim and £xx of rim repair!
To plug a tyre they need to take wheel off the car unfortunately, to get to the inside of the tyre to fix - then refit the tyre to your wheel/re-balance etc

£20 is what ive paid around my way.

shtu

3,891 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
runflats
You'll struggle to find anyone that will agree to repair a runflat.

Beethree

820 posts

103 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
I’m concerned about paying £20 and the tyre comes off, then I’m left with a damaged rim and £xx of rim repair!
Same needs to be done for a new tyre…

Pica-Pica

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15,145 posts

98 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Beethree said:
Pica-Pica said:
I’m concerned about paying £20 and the tyre comes off, then I’m left with a damaged rim and £xx of rim repair!
Same needs to be done for a new tyre…
Well of course, but when I need new tyres all round, it would be worthy of putting more research into finding a decent tyre place.

Pica-Pica

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15,145 posts

98 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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shtu said:
Pica-Pica said:
runflats
You'll struggle to find anyone that will agree to repair a runflat.
Why?

dontlookdown

2,143 posts

107 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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I have never had a car with runflats, but my understanding is that they can't/shouldn't be plugged or repaired and have to be replaced if punctured. At least that's what a tyre fitter told me once when we were chatting - while my punctured (ordinary) tyre was being repaired, ironically enough.

OP - I guess you better call round a few places and ask. Even if they can do a repair they will have to take the tyre off.

RazerSauber

2,728 posts

74 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
shtu said:
Pica-Pica said:
runflats
You'll struggle to find anyone that will agree to repair a runflat.
Why?
A lot of tyre manufacturers are picky about allowing it. Presumably something to do with the integrity of the tyre in a run-flat situation. Best advice is to speak to your local tyre place. A quick google suggests Goodyear are OK with repairs in the tread area.

Deranged Rover

4,034 posts

88 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Nah - no need. Just tighten the screw right up with some threadlock on it and that should make it air-tight.

simon_harris

2,079 posts

48 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Deranged Rover said:
Nah - no need. Just tighten the screw right up with some threadlock on it and that should make it air-tight.
just make sure it is torqued to spec.

Pica-Pica

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15,145 posts

98 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Deranged Rover said:
Nah - no need. Just tighten the screw right up with some threadlock on it and that should make it air-tight.
Funny you should say that, as I said only a slow loss of air so far, I will leave it for a few days, it’s probably been in there for a few weeks. Maybe I should add a few more screws, then I’ll be ok during the winter as studded tyres!

Thanks for answers so far. I wanted to ask the cognoscenti of PH, before I ring around the tyre places. I wanted to prepare for the ‘nah, new tyre mate’ rebuffs.

e-honda

9,470 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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dontlookdown said:
I have never had a car with runflats, but my understanding is that they can't/shouldn't be plugged or repaired and have to be replaced if punctured. At least that's what a tyre fitter told me once when we were chatting - while my punctured (ordinary) tyre was being repaired, ironically enough.

OP - I guess you better call round a few places and ask. Even if they can do a repair they will have to take the tyre off.
Runflats are just as repairable as regular tyres.
If they are driven more than a short distance fully deflated they should be replaced, a normal tyre would be pretty much destroyed at that point where as a run flat might not look too bad.
Out of an abundance of caution and absolutely nothing to do with upselling some places recommend against or absolutely refuse to repair runflats.

Radec

4,889 posts

61 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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shtu said:
Pica-Pica said:
runflats
You'll struggle to find anyone that will agree to repair a runflat.
When I had a BMW had a similar puncture on a Continental run flat, took it a local guy who repaired it the same as a normal puncture, drove thousands of miles on it without issues.

A lot of mainstream places will say you can't do it for some reason.

Desiderata

2,738 posts

68 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Deranged Rover said:
Nah - no need. Just tighten the screw right up with some threadlock on it and that should make it air-tight.
We were always getting screws in the tyres of our works vans, and this used to be a common solution. Unscrew it, blob of silicon on the threads, then bung it back in. If the screw was knackered, just take a decent one (maybe one size up) out of the toolbox and bung that in instead. Never saw one fail.

Panamax

6,077 posts

48 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Go to a proper tyre specialist and get that plugged from the inside. They won't damage your wheel and you won't be told it's not repairable. I've had a number of expensive runflats repaired, either by plugging or with a vulcanised repair (if near the sidewall).

But make sure you keep the tyre pumped up as close to normal pressure as possible. When a runflat is driven "flat" (i.e. under pressure) for any length of time the sidewalls get damaged just like any other tyre. The stronger sidewall of the runflat can tend to conceal such damage and that's why lots of tyre places refuse to fix them, whereas a conventional tyre will always show damage on the inside if it's been driven flat for even a fairly short distance.

The combination of your TPMS, a 12v tyre pump and an eventual proper repair should see that tyre good for many miles yet.

Far Cough

2,429 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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http://www.dynaplug.com/

No need to remove wheel. Simple repair