Timeframe for School Attendance Penalties?
Discussion
Dan_1981 said:
Do penalty notices for non-attendance at school have to be issued within a certain timeframe?
ie: the same school year or the same calendar year or can they send you one at any point that they see fit?
So you have one for last schoo,year I guess?ie: the same school year or the same calendar year or can they send you one at any point that they see fit?
I can’t find anything about issue relating to period, I would guess they can issue later after all attempts to resolve it are exhausted.
It seems each local authority needs to police it’s own guidance
Jon_Bmw said:
How many days and what was the fine?
Asking for someone who is expecting something for 2 weeks off in May 2023...
(Long story, but we should have been going April 2020 when neither were at school age yet...Something happened in April 2020 that shut a fair few flights down overnight).
5 days off. Asking for someone who is expecting something for 2 weeks off in May 2023...
(Long story, but we should have been going April 2020 when neither were at school age yet...Something happened in April 2020 that shut a fair few flights down overnight).
£120 per parent, reduced to £60 per parent if paid in 28 days.
martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
You are of course correct, I'll keep it in mind in 11 years time when he sits his first exams... martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
Never ceases to amaze me the self righteousness of posts like this. Two weeks off school will affect a child not one bit and I’ll have zero issues taking mine once at the requisite age.
What The Deuces said:
martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
Never ceases to amaze me the self righteousness of posts like this. Two weeks off school will affect a child not one bit and I’ll have zero issues taking mine once at the requisite age.
They can go f
k themselves with these fines considering the children are missing school today due to the teachers being on strike for more pay despite the teachers already receiving pay rises amidst families suffering cuts in council services and rises in council tax.
If they persist with the fines the teachers should be fined for every pupil who misses school because they chose to walk out.
k themselves with these fines considering the children are missing school today due to the teachers being on strike for more pay despite the teachers already receiving pay rises amidst families suffering cuts in council services and rises in council tax. If they persist with the fines the teachers should be fined for every pupil who misses school because they chose to walk out.
martinbiz said:
What The Deuces said:
martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
Never ceases to amaze me the self righteousness of posts like this. Two weeks off school will affect a child not one bit and I’ll have zero issues taking mine once at the requisite age.
Many schools kept the "threat" of fines in the last academic year but did not apply them as they recognised that many people were "catching up" seeing family, etc post lockdowns. A quiet word with a parent governor might help understand their current policy.
Oh, and 2 weeks out is hard for teachers - not only does the child have to catchup - but also the teachers have to divert efforts from other pupils towards the topics. Kids learn a surprising amount in 1/3 of a half term in KS1/KS2. Foundation is more about learning through play.
Oh, and 2 weeks out is hard for teachers - not only does the child have to catchup - but also the teachers have to divert efforts from other pupils towards the topics. Kids learn a surprising amount in 1/3 of a half term in KS1/KS2. Foundation is more about learning through play.
vaud said:
Many schools kept the "threat" of fines in the last academic year but did not apply them as they recognised that many people were "catching up" seeing family, etc post lockdowns. A quiet word with a parent governor might help understand their current policy.
Oh, and 2 weeks out is hard for teachers - not only does the child have to catchup - but also the teachers have to divert efforts from other pupils towards the topics. Kids learn a surprising amount in 1/3 of a half term in KS1/KS2. Foundation is more about learning through play.
I am not talking children who otherwise have good attendance in the case of 2 of mine.Oh, and 2 weeks out is hard for teachers - not only does the child have to catchup - but also the teachers have to divert efforts from other pupils towards the topics. Kids learn a surprising amount in 1/3 of a half term in KS1/KS2. Foundation is more about learning through play.
I guess my primary concern other than the msg and it sends to the kids is 2 of them in secondary have not perfect attendance one has had alot of so called sickness which mum entertains 4 days in the last two weeks so her year 9 is 90% and her term to date is 77%.
My eldest has special needs and her attendance is below 75%, so its not like its going to be an easy sell to the school.
What The Deuces said:
martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
Never ceases to amaze me the self righteousness of posts like this. Two weeks off school will affect a child not one bit and I’ll have zero issues taking mine once at the requisite age.
What The Deuces said:
Having had a nearly 20 year career in the education sector I feel well placed to have my opinion. We'll agree to disagree
At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious "having a 20-year career in the Education sector" doesn't make you an expert on education especially if you were in a non-teaching role. Countdown said:
What The Deuces said:
martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
Never ceases to amaze me the self righteousness of posts like this. Two weeks off school will affect a child not one bit and I’ll have zero issues taking mine once at the requisite age.
martinbiz said:
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who think a cheap holiday is more important than their child's education, although I guess it's probably ok seeing as there hasn't been any issues with full time schooling over the last couple of years
Yes they're going to miss a whole load of colouring in. 2 weeks out of a whole term learning about Shakespeare, hardly going to be detrimental. Probably not advisable to book a holiday over exam periods but other than that I can't see much of an issue.
When our kids are school age we'll just factor the fines into the price of the holiday.
Since the original question seems to have been answered, and now there's a friendly debate going on:
To use an ethical buzzword, It smacks of "entitlement" to take your kids out of school and treat the penalty as part of the cost of the holiday.
It's similar to rich bell ends parking wherever they like because they can afford to pay the fine.
The fine is there to discourage behaviour that would break the system if everyone did it. It's not really on to treat it as a cost you can just choose to pay, then do the thing you aren't meant to do.
I agree the impact on the kid's education may well be negligible (I'm not arguing that). It's more about upholding your end of the communal bargain. Or to put it a slightly more antagonistic way - not being an entitled middle class tit.
To use an ethical buzzword, It smacks of "entitlement" to take your kids out of school and treat the penalty as part of the cost of the holiday.
It's similar to rich bell ends parking wherever they like because they can afford to pay the fine.
The fine is there to discourage behaviour that would break the system if everyone did it. It's not really on to treat it as a cost you can just choose to pay, then do the thing you aren't meant to do.
I agree the impact on the kid's education may well be negligible (I'm not arguing that). It's more about upholding your end of the communal bargain. Or to put it a slightly more antagonistic way - not being an entitled middle class tit.
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