Discussion
oilit said:
Strange world we live in….. £8k for a numberplate, and at the other end of the spectrum many people are struggling to put heating on….
Yes, and then that leads on to think about how much is the car ?
£200,000 perhaps, with a few options.
Although I could spend that, somehow it does not feel right for me to buy and use an extremely expensive car.
On the other hand, I hope many people do buy and enjoy their DBXs. So important for AML.
Sometimes envy becomes a factor in these circumstances, but my own view is that many wealthy people have also created a huge number of jobs, of great benefit to so many families.
Agent57 said:
Supply and demand. Same as the world has always been.
Whether is right or wrong is another topic.
It’s BS , just DVLA lining the government’s pockets. Where I live (Canada) and doubt the US is much different any novelty plate is $80 , whatever you want so long as it’s not been previously issued .Whether is right or wrong is another topic.
fttm said:
Agent57 said:
Supply and demand. Same as the world has always been.
Whether is right or wrong is another topic.
It’s BS , just DVLA lining the government’s pockets. Where I live (Canada) and doubt the US is much different any novelty plate is $80 , whatever you want so long as it’s not been previously issued .Whether is right or wrong is another topic.
What I find a bit strange is the price achieved for such a vehicle specific plate, for a car that is very “current” rather than a classic.
LooneyTunes said:
fttm said:
Agent57 said:
Supply and demand. Same as the world has always been.
Whether is right or wrong is another topic.
It’s BS , just DVLA lining the government’s pockets. Where I live (Canada) and doubt the US is much different any novelty plate is $80 , whatever you want so long as it’s not been previously issued .Whether is right or wrong is another topic.
Agree.
'fttm' may not know the associated UK history.
It all began in 1903, with registration mark A1.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_registration_pl...
During the following 60 years, hundreds of thousands of dateless vehicle registration remarks were issued.
In 1963 the system changed, to incorporate a year date character into registration marks.
An increasing trade then began with buying and selling registration marks, mostly at that time, the old dateless ones.
The transfer charge was then (I think) £5.
Prices paid for marks steadily increased.
The rules were quite complicated and number plate dealers attached their stock plates to hundreds of low cost, licenced mopeds.
The Prime Minister and her team then realised that the Licensing Agency were sitting on an idle resource. An unused and almost inexhaustible, hugely valuable asset, that only private businesses and individuals were profiting from.
The DVLA were then permitted to sell registration marks at market value.
If people voluntarily and willingly pay high prices, then that must be better way than taxing everyone, to raise that same amount of revenue.
A strange but innocent activity, where everyone is happy.
In Canada, can you obtain/display historic registration marks looking as attractive and uncluttered as this selection ?
Lionel Martin. ( this mark now displayed on a grey BMW ! )
( Ferrari 250 GTO )
( Jimmy Tarbuck )
( Paul Daniels )
'What I find a bit strange is the price achieved for such a vehicle specific plate, for a car that is very “current” rather than a classic.'
I presume it is because it nearly reads, this car is a DBX 707.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 30th November 08:58
Jon39 said:
'What I find a bit strange is the price achieved for such a vehicle specific plate, for a car that is very “current” rather than a classic.'
I presume it is because it nearly reads, this car is a DBX 707.
That is exactly why I find the price it achieved strange, but I wouldn’t consider a vehicle specific plate for anything a bit older/having achieved popular or cult status. Just seems a bit transient unless an enthusiast has bought it intending to keep for an extended period. I presume it is because it nearly reads, this car is a DBX 707.
It’s not a criticism, everyone just sees these things differently.
LooneyTunes said:
Jon39 said:
'What I find a bit strange is the price achieved for such a vehicle specific plate, for a car that is very “current” rather than a classic.'
I presume it is because it nearly reads, this car is a DBX 707.
That is exactly why I find the price it achieved strange, but I wouldn’t consider a vehicle specific plate for anything a bit older/having achieved popular or cult status. Just seems a bit transient unless an enthusiast has bought it intending to keep for an extended period. I presume it is because it nearly reads, this car is a DBX 707.
It’s not a criticism, everyone just sees these things differently.
My own preference are the pre-1963 registration marks.
The 3 and 3 combinations are still not too expensive. Popular with car manufacturers, to make their advertising photos/films usable for longer.
We now see lots of (eg.) T194 MGS type plates, where presumably Mark Graham Smith bought it for £250.
The unwanted letter T, stands out as an awkward irrelevance.
By contrast, for this topic title, the letter A (about 1983) does unusually, read quite well with 707 DBX.
Perhaps that boosted the purchase price.
If this was a DVLA sale, I see that DBX 707 is not in issue.
I wonder if they are holding that back to sell later. -
Spotted a couple of others;
DBX 80Y £3,080
DBX 238 £Ask
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 30th November 11:57
LordBretSinclair said:
Jon39 said:
In Canada, can you obtain/display historic registration marks looking as attractive and uncluttered as this selection ?
You certainly can in the US - this is on a good friend's DB9.
Attractive, yes. Uncluttered, don't think so.
Where we are fortunate in the UK, is not having those extra badges and nine words prominently displayed on the plate, in addition to the chosen registration mark.
Your own plate is very good and probably modest cost, if you obtained it a long time ago.
Staying on the registration mark theme, here is a puzzle.
Whilst watching a video about the Lane Motor Museum, a British built 1959 Scootacar was described.
Reg mark WLL 744
Then search DVLA and WLL 744 turns into a Porsche !
Perhaps the DVLA sold that registration mark, after the Scootacar was exported.Edited by Jon39 on Friday 2nd December 17:22
Jon39 said:
'What I find a bit strange is the price achieved for such a vehicle specific plate, for a car that is very “current” rather than a classic.'
I presume it is because it nearly reads, this car is a DBX 707.
Thankfully Liz Truss and her very broken policies have been outed rather quickly, and we may just be on a slightly less damaging trajectory with Rishi Sunak, but only time will tell.
But yes, in the past "current" reg plates only demanded a few hundred quid, as people not keen to self promote knew that such an investment was transient, and thus limited their expenditure accordingly, so yes, several thousands now is just eyewatering - even allowing for inflation.
That said everything is now priced wayyy beyond the inflation figures posted, meals out have actually at least doubled in cost as has the weekly shop for the balance of days at home. Projects like new bathrooms or new houses are almost beyond comprehension. I am very thankful indeed that I bailed out of the rat race when I did , an almost full 2 years ago now!
AdamV12V said:
Sadly I think it's because this country is on a path where the distance between the "have's" and the "have not's" is wider than it ever was before. ...
I don't think your comment is true, Adam
Would you have preferred to be alive in the 1850s ?
Judging by one of my self-made ancestors, who in 1869 left in his will, 6 farms and about 40 houses, I would suggest that the wealth of the country then, was held by a very small minority of the (then much smaller) population.
At least in modern times, (possibly) the majority of the UK population now have a standard of living, which 1850s people could have never even dreamt about. Remarkable progress during just 130 years. Wealth is spread far wider now, than it was in the 19th century.
In every generation, there will always be people who are in difficulties and it should be the role of wealthy nation states to support them. A tricky balance though, to provide support, but possibly remove any incentive to work.
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