Police drivers will be impacted by new legislation
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https://www.polfed.org/westmids/latest-news/2022/p...
https://www.polfed.org/westmids/media/4969/statuto...
I posted the above due to two threads here recently, one where a PHers wife had the front of her Volvo SUV taken off at a traffic light controlled junction with less than ideal visibility and sight lines and the other about some asking about a case that wasn't covered on Lexus Nexus or Westlaw subscription service legal databases, which I think vonhosen said related to a police advanced driver driving back from a funeral with two other advanced police drivers also in the car to assess that driver's driving.
An initial thought was that this legislation goes someway to placing the precedent of the case of the police driver being assessed by their equally as qualified colleagues into statute.
https://www.polfed.org/westmids/media/4969/statuto...
I posted the above due to two threads here recently, one where a PHers wife had the front of her Volvo SUV taken off at a traffic light controlled junction with less than ideal visibility and sight lines and the other about some asking about a case that wasn't covered on Lexus Nexus or Westlaw subscription service legal databases, which I think vonhosen said related to a police advanced driver driving back from a funeral with two other advanced police drivers also in the car to assess that driver's driving.
An initial thought was that this legislation goes someway to placing the precedent of the case of the police driver being assessed by their equally as qualified colleagues into statute.
carinaman said:
https://www.polfed.org/westmids/latest-news/2022/p...
https://www.polfed.org/westmids/media/4969/statuto...
I posted the above due to two threads here recently, one where a PHers wife had the front of her Volvo SUV taken off at a traffic light controlled junction with less than ideal visibility and sight lines and the other about some asking about a case that wasn't covered on Lexus Nexus or Westlaw subscription service legal databases, which I think vonhosen said related to a police advanced driver driving back from a funeral with two other advanced police drivers also in the car to assess that driver's driving.
An initial thought was that this legislation goes someway to placing the precedent of the case of the police driver being assessed by their equally as qualified colleagues into statute.
Basically a response driver will now be assessed against the standards of a response driver and likewise and advanced driver against an advanced driver.https://www.polfed.org/westmids/media/4969/statuto...
I posted the above due to two threads here recently, one where a PHers wife had the front of her Volvo SUV taken off at a traffic light controlled junction with less than ideal visibility and sight lines and the other about some asking about a case that wasn't covered on Lexus Nexus or Westlaw subscription service legal databases, which I think vonhosen said related to a police advanced driver driving back from a funeral with two other advanced police drivers also in the car to assess that driver's driving.
An initial thought was that this legislation goes someway to placing the precedent of the case of the police driver being assessed by their equally as qualified colleagues into statute.
Gets away from the stupid notion that almost all emergency driving could be deemed careless or dangerous due to the fact they are judged based on a careful and competent driver which is bonkers
pavarotti1980 said:
Basically a response driver will now be assessed against the standards of a response driver and likewise and advanced driver against an advanced driver.
Gets away from the stupid notion that almost all emergency driving could be deemed careless or dangerous due to the fact they are judged based on a careful and competent driver which is bonkers
I guess a balance is needed my experience has been judges put far too much weight on an emergency driver once the words 'Advanced Driver' are uttered they seem to go all week and the knees.Gets away from the stupid notion that almost all emergency driving could be deemed careless or dangerous due to the fact they are judged based on a careful and competent driver which is bonkers
In the case of PC Milton when police driving instructors said his driving fell below the standards, he still got an easy ride!
More recently there was police officer did a demo run to get to a parents meeting for their own child, said he was testing his skills! Come on!
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. Elroy Blue said:
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. surveyor said:
He often does.
Really I said my LIMITED EXPERERIANCE Avon and Somerset officers have problem with roundabouts and bluelight use ie i have twice had officers trying to bully me through red lights even though they subscribe to blue light aware.I was behind a marked hyundai the other day that went straight on in the left hand marked turn lane of a roundabout.
A particular sgt I have been stopped by has told me not indicating in a left hand only lane is driving without due care and attention.
When we left school sports day in summer saw me behind, he drove his personal merc took off like a boy racer@ around 60mph in a 30 outside a school! His is late 40s and has the temperament of a child
Not many officers I have seen feed the wheel outside of test conditions.
You seem a triggered individual, my experience is my experience so how can I be talking tosh!
Elroy Blue said:
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
Bigends said:
Dont see this one sticking to 'the system' I had some shocking drives with advanced drivers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
What a surprise.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
Im sure you put him right with all your experience as an area car driving, CID, crime squad, murder squad, neighbourhood Officer.
I'm amazed you ever had time to do 'policing' with all the experiences you claim to have had.
Bigends said:
Elroy Blue said:
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
surveyor_101 said:
Really I said my LIMITED EXPERERIANCE Avon and Somerset officers have problem with roundabouts and bluelight use ie i have twice had officers trying to bully me through red lights even though they subscribe to blue light aware.
Your caps lock and spell check are both broken. BertBert said:
truly appalling driving and attitude
That is truly next level, smooth systematic and 1 handed steering, I mean that stationary clio came out of nowhere.Imagine being filmed for a documentary and that is the type of attitude and show you put on! God knows what a bad day looks like in this force!
BertBert said:
Bigends said:
Elroy Blue said:
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
I'm seeing a bit of a balls up that resulted in a minor collision, didn't see anything much wrong with his driving beforehand.
He then checks the other driver's ok and seems to accept responsibility for what's happened.
Can't say I'm seeing anything "truly appalling" here in his driving or attitude.
Harry Rule said:
BertBert said:
Bigends said:
Elroy Blue said:
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
I'm seeing a bit of a balls up that resulted in a minor collision, didn't see anything much wrong with his driving beforehand.
He then checks the other driver's ok and seems to accept responsibility for what's happened.
Can't say I'm seeing anything "truly appalling" here in his driving or attitude.
Greendubber said:
Harry Rule said:
BertBert said:
Bigends said:
Elroy Blue said:
surveyor_101 said:
In any event my limited experience of the police led me to believe that the treat driver training like any driving exam do what is needed to pass the test and then drive how they please after.
And in my 30 years as a Police driver, 26yrs as an advanced driver, Pursuit tactical advisor and TPAC, you're talking absolute nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTo8VAoieEM
I'm seeing a bit of a balls up that resulted in a minor collision, didn't see anything much wrong with his driving beforehand.
He then checks the other driver's ok and seems to accept responsibility for what's happened.
Can't say I'm seeing anything "truly appalling" here in his driving or attitude.
covboy said:
This throws up a point I queried on here a while back. Does a Police officer have to declare any of these "accodents" when applying for their own domestic car cover? - In this case an obvious error on the drivers part
I think insurers ask if you've had any accidents and even having a work related collision, even it's being rear ended at traffic lights, has to be declared.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff