import duties when buying from europe
import duties when buying from europe
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WCZ

Original Poster:

11,333 posts

218 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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I ordered a guitar pedal from italy online, it was expensive but decided it was worth it as they are all sold out here

the vat I paid was 22%

now I've just got a bill from fedex for 20% + duties for UK vat - £240 on a £1k order

is there anything I can do about this?

I didn't realise that because of brexit you can't buy anything from europe anymore without insane fees

Bannock

9,190 posts

54 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Worth it for the sovrintee tho innit.

No, there's nothing you can do about it until we rejoin the SM and CU.

Be prepared to be told to "shut the fk up about Brexit", as I have been told to do on here, it's the only answer they've got left.

NicheMonkey

463 posts

152 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Not much you can do get around the import fee,

I reckon a lot of people who voted leave did not consider that it will cost the ordinary person more in a situation like this.

WCZ

Original Poster:

11,333 posts

218 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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NicheMonkey said:
Not much you can do get around the import fee,

I reckon a lot of people who voted leave did not consider that it will cost the ordinary person more in a situation like this.
that's nuts though, can I not try and get a refund on the italian vat from the supplier because it was exported ?

I overpaid for this item in the first place because it wasn't due to be in stock anywhere in the UK until february and now i've been absolutely fked by it unless there's something I can do about it

Bannock

9,190 posts

54 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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If you think you have been overcharged for VAT or Customs Duty, there is a form you can fill in to claim it back:

https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-...

No idea how you work out if you've been overcharged though.

GDL

95 posts

190 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Given that it was to be exported from the EU, you shouldn't have paid Italian VAT.
Perhaps you can claim that back.

Double Fault

1,433 posts

287 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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I think the seller needs to have registered with the UK customs or some bks.

Just a couple of hours ago I abandoned a Christmas purchase from Italy for my missus as it's an expensive hassle. Bit like it was when I got a watch back from being serviced in Germany.

Shame, but who needs choice eh? rolleyes

Bannock

9,190 posts

54 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Double Fault said:
Shame, but who needs choice eh? rolleyes
That's right, buy British.

jester

AndySheff

6,856 posts

231 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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I was a regular purchaser of US cars - bought in the UK and exported to Sweden.
Brexit has put a stop to that.

SpeckledJim

32,821 posts

277 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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WCZ said:
I ordered a guitar pedal from italy online, it was expensive but decided it was worth it as they are all sold out here

the vat I paid was 22%

now I've just got a bill from fedex for 20% + duties for UK vat - £240 on a £1k order

is there anything I can do about this?

I didn't realise that because of brexit you can't buy anything from europe anymore without insane fees
Talk to your vendor - they charged you Italian VAT in error.

Bannock

9,190 posts

54 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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SpeckledJim said:
WCZ said:
I ordered a guitar pedal from italy online, it was expensive but decided it was worth it as they are all sold out here

the vat I paid was 22%

now I've just got a bill from fedex for 20% + duties for UK vat - £240 on a £1k order

is there anything I can do about this?

I didn't realise that because of brexit you can't buy anything from europe anymore without insane fees
Talk to your vendor - they charged you Italian VAT in error.
Don't you think it was a better system for everyone when we didn't have these hassles and barriers to trade? The Italian vendor won't give a monkey's. He's not going to set up systems for the odd order to the UK, he's just going to charge his local VAT.

the tribester

2,847 posts

110 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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WCZ said:
I ordered a guitar pedal from italy online, it was expensive but decided it was worth it as they are all sold out here

the vat I paid was 22%

now I've just got a bill from fedex for 20% + duties for UK vat - £240 on a £1k order

is there anything I can do about this?

I didn't realise that because of brexit you can't buy anything from europe anymore without insane fees
You can still buy import things from Europe, below a certain value without additional fees.

pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Bannock said:
Don't you think it was a better system for everyone when we didn't have these hassles and barriers to trade? The Italian vendor won't give a monkey's. He's not going to set up systems for the odd order to the UK, he's just going to charge his local VAT.
Yep, and is what many of us understood we were voting for a Common Market back in '75. What we didn't vote for, however, was closer political union (including uncontrolled freedom of movement) which the EU became.

As a previous poster mentioned, selling or buying into the EU/EEA now involves Import duty and/or VAT even if the item had previously VAT paid status on used goods such as cars, boats, etc., as does importing from elsewhere in the world.

Bannock

9,190 posts

54 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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pequod said:
Bannock said:
Don't you think it was a better system for everyone when we didn't have these hassles and barriers to trade? The Italian vendor won't give a monkey's. He's not going to set up systems for the odd order to the UK, he's just going to charge his local VAT.
Yep, and is what many of us understood we were voting for a Common Market back in '75. What we didn't vote for, however, was closer political union (including uncontrolled freedom of movement) which the EU became.

As a previous poster mentioned, selling or buying into the EU/EEA now involves Import duty and/or VAT even if the item had previously VAT paid status on used goods such as cars, boats, etc., as does importing from elsewhere in the world.
Point 1, the UK government had controls on EU immigration available to it which it failed to use, because to do so would have been to cost our national revenue and economy dearly. There was no need to leave the EU if we wanted to "control" immigration from EU countries, and we were never in Schengen. Can't believe people ever bought the "control our borders" schtick, and still regurgitate it. Look at the labour shortages we have now and the increasing clamour form the usual grifters about immigration increasing from the rest of the world to fill the gaps left by departing EU citizens. Inevitable. EU membership was never our problem, productivity and government investment in public services was the problem and continues to be.

Point 2, you're happy that we have the same barriers with our closest neighbours and most important trade partners that we always had with the rest of the world? I'm not. You think it's a price worth paying for some ineffable "sovereignty" that we had never lost in the first place? I don't.

WCZ

Original Poster:

11,333 posts

218 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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SpeckledJim said:
Talk to your vendor - they charged you Italian VAT in error.
so they should of charged no vat to me because it was being sent to the uk?

i've emailed them and i'm awaiting a response

pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Bannock said:
pequod said:
Bannock said:
Don't you think it was a better system for everyone when we didn't have these hassles and barriers to trade? The Italian vendor won't give a monkey's. He's not going to set up systems for the odd order to the UK, he's just going to charge his local VAT.
Yep, and is what many of us understood we were voting for a Common Market back in '75. What we didn't vote for, however, was closer political union (including uncontrolled freedom of movement) which the EU became.

As a previous poster mentioned, selling or buying into the EU/EEA now involves Import duty and/or VAT even if the item had previously VAT paid status on used goods such as cars, boats, etc., as does importing from elsewhere in the world.
Point 1, the UK government had controls on EU immigration available to it which it failed to use, because to do so would have been to cost our national revenue and economy dearly. There was no need to leave the EU if we wanted to "control" immigration from EU countries, and we were never in Schengen. Can't believe people ever bought the "control our borders" schtick, and still regurgitate it. Look at the labour shortages we have now and the increasing clamour form the usual grifters about immigration increasing from the rest of the world to fill the gaps left by departing EU citizens. Inevitable. EU membership was never our problem, productivity and government investment in public services was the problem and continues to be.

Point 2, you're happy that we have the same barriers with our closest neighbours and most important trade partners that we always had with the rest of the world? I'm not. You think it's a price worth paying for some ineffable "sovereignty" that we had never lost in the first place? I don't.
Point 1, you're wrong.

Point 2, No, but that's what the majority decided.

Let's not derail the thread, there's another place for any debate about Brexit over there >>>>

WCZ

Original Poster:

11,333 posts

218 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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the tribester said:
You can still buy import things from Europe, below a certain value without additional fees.
I only realised this now, it's £135 - so many things cost more than £135 though!

it's unlikely i'll ever buy anything from europe again given the hassle and crazy added expense - all the prices for stuff online that i've seen includes vat of the country it's being shipped from

Bannock

9,190 posts

54 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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pequod said:
Point 1, you're wrong.
Absolutely and incontrovertibly not.

SpeckledJim

32,821 posts

277 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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WCZ said:
SpeckledJim said:
Talk to your vendor - they charged you Italian VAT in error.
so they should of charged no vat to me because it was being sent to the uk?

i've emailed them and i'm awaiting a response
Yes, they should have sold it to you without Italian VAT, as the Vat you’ve been charged in the UK is correct. (The customs fee is a frustration, but also ‘correct’)

WCZ

Original Poster:

11,333 posts

218 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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update: I kept emailing them (the online store) and eventually they refunded the VAT back

a bit of a hassle and I wonder how many people don't make the effort to do so!