Old Gits 2023 - Italy Lakes and Mountains - June 2023
Discussion
All 20 places now allocated - Trip full
An early "heads up" for those on the PistonHeads BB site.
The details of the 2023 trip are now finalised and booking for the trip has started. In 2023 we will visit Italy, and more specifically the lakes and the Dolomites.
The dates for the trip are Saturday 17th June to Sunday 25th June, giving us 2 days to get to Italy and 2 days to get back, with 6 days to enjoy the wonderful roads with many well-known passes including Stelvio, Gavia, Tonale, St. Gotthard, Simplon and Furka to name but a few within easy reach.
Schedule for the trip is:
Option
Evening of Friday 16th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
- 1 night in Ibis Bethune Centre Gare, Bethune, France
https://all.accor.com/hotel/B8Q0/index.en.shtml
or
Morning of Saturday 17th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
then
- 1 night in Hotel Florimont, Saint-Ferréol, France
www.hotelflorimont.com/en/hotel.html
- 3 nights in Hotel Rosa, Baveno on the shore of Lake Maggiore.
www. hotelrosabaveno.it/?lang=en
- 3 nights in Hotel Lady Maria, Fondo in the Dolomites.
www.ladymariahotel.com/en/
- 1 night in Hotel Arcis, Gomaringen, Germany
www.hotel-arcis.de/en/
Evening of Sunday 25th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
There are also other options to cross to mainland Europe and ride to either the stop-over hotels or direct to the hotels in Italy
The numbers this year will be fixed to the 20 spaces reserved at both of the main hotels in Italy. Those spaces will be allocated on a first come, first served basis so booking early if you want to join us is recommended.
The total cost for the 8 nights in the hotels, single use rooms, parking included, B&B (half board in Fondo) is £775 (based on current GBP/Euro exchange rates). Channel crossing costs will be additional to this and will likely take the costs to around £1,000. Likewise, a hotel stay on the Friday night will be additional and likely in the region of £75 - £85.
If you'd like to join in but would prefer some alternative "there and back" options, then those can be discussed.
Booking will require a £250, non-refundable deposit. This will be allocated towards the costs of your trip when you attend but will not be refundable if you drop out before the trip. As ever, I don’t make any profit on the Old Gits trips so the money you pay reflects the direct costs of your trip.
If you have any questions or would like more details, then please let me know.
Images from previous Old Gits trips to the Dolomites so you get an idea as to what to expect!
For those who don't know how the Old Gits trips work here's a very quick overview.
This is not a guided trip
We definitely do not all ride in a line at the speed of the slowest rider, with "road captains" to hold up and p
s off the rest of the traffic. Instead, the hotels are pre-booked so you know where you're heading and know there will be good company who speak your language and share your interest, but how you get there, what speed you ride, who you ride with etc. is entirely up to you.
We deliberately stay at locations for a few nights, so you get the opportunity to explore the stunning roads on a bike unincumbered with luggage.
You only pay the costs associated with your trip. You are not subsidising anyone else's trip. You share in the group discounts that are available. All of the coordination and booking is done on a voluntary basis.
An early "heads up" for those on the PistonHeads BB site.
The details of the 2023 trip are now finalised and booking for the trip has started. In 2023 we will visit Italy, and more specifically the lakes and the Dolomites.
The dates for the trip are Saturday 17th June to Sunday 25th June, giving us 2 days to get to Italy and 2 days to get back, with 6 days to enjoy the wonderful roads with many well-known passes including Stelvio, Gavia, Tonale, St. Gotthard, Simplon and Furka to name but a few within easy reach.
Schedule for the trip is:
Option
Evening of Friday 16th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
- 1 night in Ibis Bethune Centre Gare, Bethune, France
https://all.accor.com/hotel/B8Q0/index.en.shtml
or
Morning of Saturday 17th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
then
- 1 night in Hotel Florimont, Saint-Ferréol, France
www.hotelflorimont.com/en/hotel.html
- 3 nights in Hotel Rosa, Baveno on the shore of Lake Maggiore.
www. hotelrosabaveno.it/?lang=en
- 3 nights in Hotel Lady Maria, Fondo in the Dolomites.
www.ladymariahotel.com/en/
- 1 night in Hotel Arcis, Gomaringen, Germany
www.hotel-arcis.de/en/
Evening of Sunday 25th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
There are also other options to cross to mainland Europe and ride to either the stop-over hotels or direct to the hotels in Italy
The numbers this year will be fixed to the 20 spaces reserved at both of the main hotels in Italy. Those spaces will be allocated on a first come, first served basis so booking early if you want to join us is recommended.
The total cost for the 8 nights in the hotels, single use rooms, parking included, B&B (half board in Fondo) is £775 (based on current GBP/Euro exchange rates). Channel crossing costs will be additional to this and will likely take the costs to around £1,000. Likewise, a hotel stay on the Friday night will be additional and likely in the region of £75 - £85.
If you'd like to join in but would prefer some alternative "there and back" options, then those can be discussed.
Booking will require a £250, non-refundable deposit. This will be allocated towards the costs of your trip when you attend but will not be refundable if you drop out before the trip. As ever, I don’t make any profit on the Old Gits trips so the money you pay reflects the direct costs of your trip.
If you have any questions or would like more details, then please let me know.
Images from previous Old Gits trips to the Dolomites so you get an idea as to what to expect!
For those who don't know how the Old Gits trips work here's a very quick overview.
This is not a guided trip
We definitely do not all ride in a line at the speed of the slowest rider, with "road captains" to hold up and p
s off the rest of the traffic. Instead, the hotels are pre-booked so you know where you're heading and know there will be good company who speak your language and share your interest, but how you get there, what speed you ride, who you ride with etc. is entirely up to you. We deliberately stay at locations for a few nights, so you get the opportunity to explore the stunning roads on a bike unincumbered with luggage.
You only pay the costs associated with your trip. You are not subsidising anyone else's trip. You share in the group discounts that are available. All of the coordination and booking is done on a voluntary basis.
Edited by black-k1 on Wednesday 17th May 16:05
Damn! I’d love to do this but my riding simply isn’t upto that level yet.
Came back after a long break and just haven’t used the bike.
That’s a great price for such an amazing trip.
If I can get some miles in next year I may well come on the 2024 one please.
Have fun!
Came back after a long break and just haven’t used the bike.
That’s a great price for such an amazing trip.
If I can get some miles in next year I may well come on the 2024 one please.
Have fun!
Edited by marky911 on Tuesday 6th December 21:37
Plenty of time between now and June to get your riding up to scratch but I can't do anything to make the Alps/Dolomites any lower!
Now up to 18 people on the trip. At the moment, BMW is 8 - 6 up on Kawasaki for the greatest number of bikes on the trip so perhaps we need two more Kawaskis!!!
- Any and all bikes welcome!Bungleaio said:
Getting altitude sickness prevents me from enjoying trips like this sadly.
Do you get AMS at such low altitudes, that's very rare. I got it at 4700m in India and spent a day recovering at 3500m before going back up, but most of the alpine roads are less than 2000m so not normally an issue. The hotel David mentioned is at 980m apparently.SteveKTMer said:
Bungleaio said:
Getting altitude sickness prevents me from enjoying trips like this sadly.
Do you get AMS at such low altitudes, that's very rare. I got it at 4700m in India and spent a day recovering at 3500m before going back up, but most of the alpine roads are less than 2000m so not normally an issue. The hotel David mentioned is at 980m apparently.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_pave...
A great feature of MyRoutApp mapping is the ability to get the altitude read out of any given route so planning around a specific ceiling us pretty easy. (Providing that ceiling isn't something like 1000m!)
black-k1 said:
SteveKTMer said:
Bungleaio said:
Getting altitude sickness prevents me from enjoying trips like this sadly.
Do you get AMS at such low altitudes, that's very rare. I got it at 4700m in India and spent a day recovering at 3500m before going back up, but most of the alpine roads are less than 2000m so not normally an issue. The hotel David mentioned is at 980m apparently.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_pave...
A great feature of MyRoutApp mapping is the ability to get the altitude read out of any given route so planning around a specific ceiling us pretty easy. (Providing that ceiling isn't something like 1000m!)
SteveKTMer said:
Bungleaio said:
Getting altitude sickness prevents me from enjoying trips like this sadly.
Do you get AMS at such low altitudes, that's very rare. I got it at 4700m in India and spent a day recovering at 3500m before going back up, but most of the alpine roads are less than 2000m so not normally an issue. The hotel David mentioned is at 980m apparently.t in the passenger seat. As soon as we went down I was back to normal.Later in the day, we got to the hotel in the hills around Bourg-Saint-Maurice and I was back to feeling awful. I went back down into the town and I was fine again so I stopped in a hotel in the town. The next day we were supposed to drive to the Stelvio pass with a hotel at the top and I didn't want to risk it. There was a train station in Bourg-Saint-Maurice so I bought a ticket and got home in about 12 hours. My mate carried on with the rest of the group.
I don't know what caused it but it's not something I'm keen to repeat, especially on a bike. It's a shame though as the roads were stunning.
black-k1 said:
All 20 places now allocated - Trip full
An early "heads up" for those on the PistonHeads BB site.
The details of the 2023 trip are now finalised and booking for the trip has started. In 2023 we will visit Italy, and more specifically the lakes and the Dolomites.
The dates for the trip are Saturday 17th June to Sunday 25th June, giving us 2 days to get to Italy and 2 days to get back, with 6 days to enjoy the wonderful roads with many well-known passes including Stelvio, Gavia, Tonale, St. Gotthard, Simplon and Furka to name but a few within easy reach.
Schedule for the trip is:
Option
Evening of Friday 16th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
- 1 night in Ibis Bethune Centre Gare, Bethune, France
https://all.accor.com/hotel/B8Q0/index.en.shtml
or
Morning of Saturday 17th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
then
- 1 night in Hotel Florimont, Saint-Ferréol, France
www.hotelflorimont.com/en/hotel.html
- 3 nights in Hotel Rosa, Baveno on the shore of Lake Maggiore.
www. hotelrosabaveno.it/?lang=en
- 3 nights in Hotel Lady Maria, Fondo in the Dolomites.
www.ladymariahotel.com/en/
- 1 night in Hotel Arcis, Gomaringen, Germany
www.hotel-arcis.de/en/
Evening of Sunday 25th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
There are also other options to cross to mainland Europe and ride to either the stop-over hotels or direct to the hotels in Italy
The numbers this year will be fixed to the 20 spaces reserved at both of the main hotels in Italy. Those spaces will be allocated on a first come, first served basis so booking early if you want to join us is recommended.
The total cost for the 8 nights in the hotels, single use rooms, parking included, B&B (half board in Fondo) is £775 (based on current GBP/Euro exchange rates). Channel crossing costs will be additional to this and will likely take the costs to around £1,000. Likewise, a hotel stay on the Friday night will be additional and likely in the region of £75 - £85.
If you'd like to join in but would prefer some alternative "there and back" options, then those can be discussed.
Booking will require a £250, non-refundable deposit. This will be allocated towards the costs of your trip when you attend but will not be refundable if you drop out before the trip. As ever, I don’t make any profit on the Old Gits trips so the money you pay reflects the direct costs of your trip.
If you have any questions or would like more details, then please let me know.
Images from previous Old Gits trips to the Dolomites so you get an idea as to what to expect!
For those who don't know how the Old Gits trips work here's a very quick overview.
This is not a guided trip
We definitely do not all ride in a line at the speed of the slowest rider, with "road captains" to hold up and ps off the rest of the traffic. Instead, the hotels are pre-booked so you know where you're heading and know there will be good company who speak your language and share your interest, but how you get there, what speed you ride, who you ride with etc. is entirely up to you.
We deliberately stay at locations for a few nights, so you get the opportunity to explore the stunning roads on a bike unincumbered with luggage.
You only pay the costs associated with your trip. You are not subsidising anyone else's trip. You share in the group discounts that are available. All of the coordination and booking is done on a voluntary basis.
Where was that first picture taken, it looks absolutely fabulous and I'd love to ride it?An early "heads up" for those on the PistonHeads BB site.
The details of the 2023 trip are now finalised and booking for the trip has started. In 2023 we will visit Italy, and more specifically the lakes and the Dolomites.
The dates for the trip are Saturday 17th June to Sunday 25th June, giving us 2 days to get to Italy and 2 days to get back, with 6 days to enjoy the wonderful roads with many well-known passes including Stelvio, Gavia, Tonale, St. Gotthard, Simplon and Furka to name but a few within easy reach.
Schedule for the trip is:
Option
Evening of Friday 16th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
- 1 night in Ibis Bethune Centre Gare, Bethune, France
https://all.accor.com/hotel/B8Q0/index.en.shtml
or
Morning of Saturday 17th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
then
- 1 night in Hotel Florimont, Saint-Ferréol, France
www.hotelflorimont.com/en/hotel.html
- 3 nights in Hotel Rosa, Baveno on the shore of Lake Maggiore.
www. hotelrosabaveno.it/?lang=en
- 3 nights in Hotel Lady Maria, Fondo in the Dolomites.
www.ladymariahotel.com/en/
- 1 night in Hotel Arcis, Gomaringen, Germany
www.hotel-arcis.de/en/
Evening of Sunday 25th June 2023 - Cross the Channel - Eurotunnel
There are also other options to cross to mainland Europe and ride to either the stop-over hotels or direct to the hotels in Italy
The numbers this year will be fixed to the 20 spaces reserved at both of the main hotels in Italy. Those spaces will be allocated on a first come, first served basis so booking early if you want to join us is recommended.
The total cost for the 8 nights in the hotels, single use rooms, parking included, B&B (half board in Fondo) is £775 (based on current GBP/Euro exchange rates). Channel crossing costs will be additional to this and will likely take the costs to around £1,000. Likewise, a hotel stay on the Friday night will be additional and likely in the region of £75 - £85.
If you'd like to join in but would prefer some alternative "there and back" options, then those can be discussed.
Booking will require a £250, non-refundable deposit. This will be allocated towards the costs of your trip when you attend but will not be refundable if you drop out before the trip. As ever, I don’t make any profit on the Old Gits trips so the money you pay reflects the direct costs of your trip.
If you have any questions or would like more details, then please let me know.
Images from previous Old Gits trips to the Dolomites so you get an idea as to what to expect!
For those who don't know how the Old Gits trips work here's a very quick overview.
This is not a guided trip
We definitely do not all ride in a line at the speed of the slowest rider, with "road captains" to hold up and p
s off the rest of the traffic. Instead, the hotels are pre-booked so you know where you're heading and know there will be good company who speak your language and share your interest, but how you get there, what speed you ride, who you ride with etc. is entirely up to you. We deliberately stay at locations for a few nights, so you get the opportunity to explore the stunning roads on a bike unincumbered with luggage.
You only pay the costs associated with your trip. You are not subsidising anyone else's trip. You share in the group discounts that are available. All of the coordination and booking is done on a voluntary basis.
Edited by black-k1 on Tuesday 6th December 07:51
Edited by black-k1 on Wednesday 14th December 07:25
Edited by black-k1 on Wednesday 14th December 07:25
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