RE: Ferrari reveals 1,350hp Vision Gran Turismo car
RE: Ferrari reveals 1,350hp Vision Gran Turismo car
Monday 28th November 2022

Ferrari reveals 1,350hp Vision Gran Turismo car

Thinking about what to do over Christmas? This is on GT7 from December 23rd...


Doesn’t seem so long ago that having any kind of Ferrari in Gran Turismo seemed far-fetched. Now, at last, as well as having road and race cars in the GT franchise, there’s a Vision Gran Turismo creation. Better late than never at all - the first Vision Gran Turismo, from Mercedes-AMG, was launched for Gran Turismo 6 almost a decade ago. Perhaps it was Lamborghini and Porsche releasing VGT cars for GT7 that finally twisted Ferrari’s arm…

Whatever, it’s great to see another wild concept for the game, especially one with the Prancing Horse on its flanks. Hopefully Scuderia shields aren’t an optional extra in the game as well. Interestingly, and not like every Vision car out there, the Ferrari does have a link to a production car, as it’s powered by the 296’s wonderful 120-degree V6. In fact, it's related to the wonderful 3.0-litre unit that will power the 499P racer. Only without race rules or road regulations to adhere to, the Gran Turismo car has been unleashed, with 1,030hp developed at 9,000rpm. Which bodes well for some kind of 296 Pista in time. In addition to the V6, as in every previous installation, there’s electrical assistance; the VGT gets an extra 326hp from three electric motors, one on the rear axle and one on each front wheel. Ferrari says that ‘peerless performance’ is the result, with 811lb ft alongside all that power as well as the ‘unrivalled cornering agility and handling balance that Ferrari’s road and racing have long been renowned for. Which does sound pretty entertaining. Ferrari’s press release adds that GT7 representation is ‘designed to faithfully replicate Ferrari’s in car driving thrills, conveying an accurate feeling of the limits achievable and enhancing the car’s performance.’

This may be a virtual car, but it’s also a Ferrari, and therefore no detail has been ignored in the pursuit of performance. The stunning design, while paying homage to the classic sportscar racers of the 60s and 70s, has also been inspired by the new 499P. Both rear diffuser and wing are heavily influenced by the latest Le Mans Hypercar. At the front, an S Duct and wheelarch vents are familiar from road car installations. Ferrari say the design of this car ‘was conceived around the idea of a speed form with very geometric, sharp, angular lines that nevertheless underlie a very organic shape.’ Even by VGT standards this is a jaw dropping bit of design, as futuristic and ambitious as we’ve come to expect from these vehicles but with just enough cues to its identity as well. It’s easy to imagine a Ferrari racer of the 2030s resembling this car.

Under the canopy and inside the Ferrari Vision Gran Turismo, the driver sits centrally. Naturally, there’s plenty of red in there, and a feast of information for the driver straight ahead, albeit this time incorporated into the steering wheel. With the buttons and rotary wheels organised so neatly and logically, the VGT interior again feels like a feature that could have real world applicability and doesn’t just represent a gaming flight of fancy.

The announcement of the Vision Gran Turismo ends Ferrari’s celebratory year, 2022 marking 75 years since its first racing car - the 125 S - left the factory gates. Having been unveiled at the Gran Turismo World Finals, the Ferrari will be available to all GT7 users from December 23rd. There’ll be a real thing, too, a full-size design study of the Vision Gran Turismo to be on public view at the Ferrari Museum from that day until March 2023. In case there was any doubt as to just how seriously Ferrari is taking Vision Gran Turismo. And if there was any further excuse required to make a Maranello pilgrimage early in the new year…


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Schermerhorn

Original Poster:

4,353 posts

219 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Will they actually make something like this, or similar, for the road?

Or are we just going to drool over a cartoon?

Fetchez la vache

5,909 posts

244 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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article said:
...paying homage to the classic sportscar racers of the 60s and 70s
How exactly? scratchchin

MarvinTPA

260 posts

159 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Can't wait to get it and crash it in to a ditch.

Dr G

15,987 posts

272 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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MarvinTPA said:
Can't wait to get it and crash it in to a ditch.
Isn't that what happens with real ones too?

What's up Youtoooooob; watch me crash my 1 of 1 Ferrari into a ditch (or Lambeth Bridge as the case may be).

Leon R

3,915 posts

126 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Schermerhorn said:
Will they actually make something like this, or similar, for the road?

Or are we just going to drool over a cartoon?
It's a Vision Gran Turismo car so it is a design specifically for the game.

IbanezDan

263 posts

87 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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"No detail has been ignored" - apart from any suspension movement whatsoever.

Edited by IbanezDan on Monday 28th November 12:01

bloomen

10,186 posts

189 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Schermerhorn said:
Will they actually make something like this, or similar, for the road?

Or are we just going to drool over a cartoon?
I'm typing this inside one in a tailback on the A12 right now. It's not as practical as I'd hoped so I think it's going back for a refund.

jhoneyball

1,802 posts

306 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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"Only without race rules or road regulations to adhere to, the Gran Turismo car has been unleashed, with 1,030hp developed at 9,000rpm. Which bodes well for some kind of 296 Pista in time. In addition to the V6, as in every previous installation, there’s electrical assistance; the VGT gets an extra 326hp from three electric motors, one on the rear axle and one on each front wheel. Ferrari says that ‘peerless performance’ is the result, with 811lb ft alongside all that power as well as the ‘unrivalled cornering agility and handling balance that Ferrari’s road and racing have long been renowned for. Which does sound pretty entertaining. "

How can a car in a game have 1030hp? etc etc? Or a claimed Fiorano time?

Or have they actually build one of these things and tested it?

And Shmee150's video on it called them "photographs" when sure they are renders? What about mere concepts of suspension travel on those arches? <bah humbug>

TerryFarquit

113 posts

157 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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References the Modulo:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Modulo

I think the Modulo might have an upforce rather than downforce problem, a bit like v1 TTs.

PistonTim

753 posts

169 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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jhoneyball said:
"Only without race rules or road regulations to adhere to, the Gran Turismo car has been unleashed, with 1,030hp developed at 9,000rpm. Which bodes well for some kind of 296 Pista in time. In addition to the V6, as in every previous installation, there’s electrical assistance; the VGT gets an extra 326hp from three electric motors, one on the rear axle and one on each front wheel. Ferrari says that ‘peerless performance’ is the result, with 811lb ft alongside all that power as well as the ‘unrivalled cornering agility and handling balance that Ferrari’s road and racing have long been renowned for. Which does sound pretty entertaining. "

How can a car in a game have 1030hp? etc etc? Or a claimed Fiorano time?

Or have they actually build one of these things and tested it?

And Shmee150's video on it called them "photographs" when sure they are renders? What about mere concepts of suspension travel on those arches? <bah humbug>
It sounds like a load of absolute nonense to me, how does it affect a real world car at all?

Piginapoke

6,055 posts

215 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Presumably makes sense if you are under 15 years old.

MissChief

8,001 posts

198 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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I don’t understand why it’s silver and not Rosso Corsa. You know, THE Ferrari colour?

Robertb

3,901 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Its quite an achievement to have literally a blank canvass, no constraints, a rich heritage of fantastic designs, and come up with something that looks so awful. Good work.

Why limit it to 1350bhp. Its a game. I want 1 million bhp, plus overboost.


Robertb

3,901 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Schermerhorn said:
Will they actually make something like this, or similar, for the road?

Or are we just going to drool over a cartoon?
In the future, motoring will mean summoning a shared-use electric personal transportation device by an app. It will self-drive, speed limited to 90 kph.

We will drive cars like this virtually, round the Nurburgring (repurposed as a wind-farm in 2039) to remind us of better times.

wpa1975

14,784 posts

144 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Completely pointless and looks awful

Leon R

3,915 posts

126 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Gran Turismo Developers: Hey lots of car enthusiasts also enjoy video games since they get to experience cars that they might otherwise never get to. Shall we do a collaboration with car manufactures?

Car manufactures: Yeah we can do some wild concepts and then you can add them into the games so that the fans can drive our vision virtually!

Both: And lets make it free!

PistonHeads: I hate this and I don't want it to exist.

Spiros115

439 posts

80 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Good to see the PH statler & Waldorf brigade out again over a computer game :-D

Countless companies have done “vision” concepts for Gran Turismo, they’re an exercise in PR, design and simulation. Concept car figures and tech is always part aspiration part fantasy based on what companies are working towards or predict for the future, arguably in a computer game it’s more valuable than a traditional static life size model as you can set millions of parameters and use some pretty decent programs to simulate what might happen. No doubt GT has a pretty decent set of parameters to stop OEMs creating road rockets (literally) that render others obsolete.

In other words, chill out it’s a bit of fun!

MCBrowncoat

1,780 posts

176 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Leon R said:
Gran Turismo Developers: Hey lots of car enthusiasts also enjoy video games since they get to experience cars that they might otherwise never get to. Shall we do a collaboration with car manufactures?

Car manufactures: Yeah we can do some wild concepts and then you can add them into the games so that the fans can drive our vision virtually!

Both: And lets make it free!

PistonHeads: I hate this and I don't want it to exist.
Right? They've been doing this for, as mentioned in the article, almost ten years. Designers given a free reign to design something wild for a console game which may (and has) pointed to the design direction they are heading. And every time on Pistonheads it's the same response.

"It doesn't exist? Pointless"

No it doesn't

What is it you don't get about that?

nismo48

7,180 posts

237 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Spiros115 said:
Good to see the PH statler & Waldorf brigade out again over a computer game :-D

Countless companies have done “vision” concepts for Gran Turismo, they’re an exercise in PR, design and simulation. Concept car figures and tech is always part aspiration part fantasy based on what companies are working towards or predict for the future, arguably in a computer game it’s more valuable than a traditional static life size model as you can set millions of parameters and use some pretty decent programs to simulate what might happen. No doubt GT has a pretty decent set of parameters to stop OEMs creating road rockets (literally) that render others obsolete.

In other words, chill out it’s a bit of fun!
+1 nobody gets hurt too wink

RumbleOfThunder

3,728 posts

233 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Ooh look another GT Vision car that's not a real thing. Great.