Sell my Airbnb flat and stick funds in savings account?
Sell my Airbnb flat and stick funds in savings account?
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Leicesterdave

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2,288 posts

204 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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I own two properties, both outright it’s . One is our main home and the other is an investment property that I let out on an Airbnb basis.

The rental property does okay, and on average I make around £1500 a month. I just can’t help but think that with the uncertainty in the market and the fact that inevitably things break, people cancel, and the risk of having the flat trashed which hasn’t happened yet **touchwood** I would perhaps rather sell the property and have a hassle free monthly sum in the form of interest in a savings account.

I’ve seen interest rates of up to 5% if locked away for around a year. Should I do it or should I stick to what I’ve got?

Thanks for your input!

zedmtrappe

338 posts

120 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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If that house is worth £360K + then possibly...

Countdown

47,628 posts

220 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Leicesterdave said:
I own two properties, both outright it’s . One is our main home and the other is an investment property that I let out on an Airbnb basis.

The rental property does okay, and on average I make around £1500 a month. I just can’t help but think that with the uncertainty in the market and the fact that inevitably things break, people cancel, and the risk of having the flat trashed which hasn’t happened yet **touchwood** I would perhaps rather sell the property and have a hassle free monthly sum in the form of interest in a savings account.

I’ve seen interest rates of up to 5% if locked away for around a year. Should I do it or should I stick to what I’ve got?

Thanks for your input!
Is that £1,500 gross or net? (I mean after expenses have bene taken into account). What's the value of the property/what kind of yield are you getting? Don't forget the capital appreciation as well.

In my experience you should be getting 5% net yield from your investment property, and that's not including capital gains 9which have been stratospheric over the last few years). With Airbnb you also don't have the issue of ono-paying tenants (although you probably have more of an admin hassle).

Since you've already got the property, and it's working ok, I'd suggest sticking with it. Whilst interest rates might be 5% now I don't think they'll stay at 5% in the long term.


Largechris

2,019 posts

115 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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You'll be paying capital gains on the increase in value of the rental property from when you started letting it out, so factor that in.

Leicesterdave

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2,288 posts

204 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Countdown said:
Is that £1,500 gross or net? (I mean after expenses have bene taken into account). What's the value of the property/what kind of yield are you getting? Don't forget the capital appreciation as well.

In my experience you should be getting 5% net yield from your investment property, and that's not including capital gains 9which have been stratospheric over the last few years). With Airbnb you also don't have the issue of ono-paying tenants (although you probably have more of an admin hassle).

Since you've already got the property, and it's working ok, I'd suggest sticking with it. Whilst interest rates might be 5% now I don't think they'll stay at 5% in the long term.
£1,500 net. It was valued at £270,000 a few months back but let’s not forget that things have turned a lot since.

Bought it for £190k in 2018.

I guess it does do ok- I have the wishful thinking of getting less interest in a savings account but with no hassle whatsoever. However it is true that 5% interest could change rapidly also.

Can’t win!

AllyM

518 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Keep it.

Greenmantle

1,975 posts

132 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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AllyM said:
Keep it.
Yep keep it and only let it out to vetted parties.
House prices will rise.
At the point you are happy with the capital gains move in for 6 months and then sell.

Leicesterdave

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2,288 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Greenmantle said:
At the point you are happy with the capital gains move in for 6 months and then sell.
Can you expand on that, genuinely interested!

PushedDover

7,167 posts

77 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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What did you do OP ?

Our AirBnB always "looks quiet" at this time of year and picks up, so nothing to worry about.

But this year? I am definitely sensing that there are issues in the market.

I too am looking to get out / cash in / take the CGT hit and put it in the bank. (plus other complications, see my other topic : https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

DId you sell up? and how about sorting any bookings you had in place?

Eric Mc

124,937 posts

289 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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Is your Air B&B property currently declared to HMRC as a "Holiday Let" or as a simple "Rental Property"?

Be aware that the very big Capital Gains concessions available on the sale of a bona fide holiday let are ending on 5 April.

PushedDover

7,167 posts

77 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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Eric Mc said:
Is your Air B&B property currently declared to HMRC as a "Holiday Let" or as a simple "Rental Property"?

Be aware that the very big Capital Gains concessions available on the sale of a bona fide holiday let are ending on 5 April.
thank you Eric, Any link to that would be great research for me



Eric Mc

124,937 posts

289 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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PushedDover said:
Eric Mc said:
Is your Air B&B property currently declared to HMRC as a "Holiday Let" or as a simple "Rental Property"?

Be aware that the very big Capital Gains concessions available on the sale of a bona fide holiday let are ending on 5 April.
thank you Eric, Any link to that would be great research for me
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/furnish...


PushedDover

7,167 posts

77 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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thumbup

Time to digest ( and regret being a dumb head down arse up person in matters like this trying to comprehend Government talk biggrin)

Eric Mc

124,937 posts

289 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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Up until 5 April 2025, furnished holiday lets have been treated by HMRC as a form of trading business. C onsequently, some of the atributes of running a business have been applicable to running a holiday let.

Examples are -

Ability to claim certain Capital Allowances
Ability to claim full tax relief against profits on loan interest and oher finance charges

And the really big bonus - the ability to claim Business Asset Disposal Relief (what used to be called Entrepreneur's Relief) on any capital gains when the holiday let was sold i.e. a charge of just 10% on the taxable gain

From 6 April 2025 these rules will no longer apply and holiday let tax will be identical to what currently applies to buy to lets -

Restricted Capital Allowances
Restricted relief on interest and finance charges
Capital Gains tax treatment will be the same as for a normal Buy to Let i.e. higher CGT rates and no Business Asset Disposal Relief

PushedDover

7,167 posts

77 months

Sunday 12th January 2025
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Eric Mc said:
Up until 5 April 2025, furnished holiday lets have been treated by HMRC as a form of trading business. C onsequently, some of the atributes of running a business have been applicable to running a holiday let.

Examples are -

Ability to claim certain Capital Allowances
Ability to claim full tax relief against profits on loan interest and oher finance charges

And the really big bonus - the ability to claim Business Asset Disposal Relief (what used to be called Entrepreneur's Relief) on any capital gains when the holiday let was sold i.e. a charge of just 10% on the taxable gain

From 6 April 2025 these rules will no longer apply and holiday let tax will be identical to what currently applies to buy to lets -

Restricted Capital Allowances
Restricted relief on interest and finance charges
Capital Gains tax treatment will be the same as for a normal Buy to Let i.e. higher CGT rates and no Business Asset Disposal Relief
Again - thank you for the translation :-)

NuckyThompson

2,230 posts

192 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Leicesterdave said:
£1,500 net. It was valued at £270,000 a few months back but let’s not forget that things have turned a lot since.

Bought it for £190k in 2018.

I guess it does do ok- I have the wishful thinking of getting less interest in a savings account but with no hassle whatsoever. However it is true that 5% interest could change rapidly also.

Can’t win!
If you don’t need to money/cash flow may be worth seeking a financial advisor and investing it and forgetting about it for a while. Should get more than the 5% then

Puzzles

3,290 posts

135 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Absolutely don’t listen to me.. but I’m thinking of selling my second home and putting it all into equities. Most likely a ftse tracker as the dividends I think are around 4.5% and I think it’s undervalued.

Need to find a decent platform with the lowest fees.

superpp

530 posts

222 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Puzzles said:
Need to find a decent platform with the lowest fees.
InvestEngine if happy being app based

Puzzles

3,290 posts

135 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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I don’t mind apps, just want something that’s safe and low fees. At some point I think it’s better to pay a fixed fee where possible rather than a %.

Sorry hopefully still relevant to the OP if he sells up smile

FriedMarsBar

554 posts

56 months

Tuesday 14th January 2025
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If the AirBNB is valued at £270K and it's making £1500 that's 6.7% NET, which I'd say is pretty good?

If the op sells and invests the "£270K AND it gets 5% Gross, less NET unless it's all in tax efficient wrappers. It will take 7 years to get it all into tax efficient wrappers using two allowances.

If the OP keeps the AirBNB, and keeps getting that sort of return, are they not getting a better NET yield and potentially capital growth?

EDIT: I've just realised the OP hasn't commented so we don't know what they did but I'd be interested to hear.


Edited by FriedMarsBar on Tuesday 14th January 12:14