Why are they replacing orange street lights with white?
Why are they replacing orange street lights with white?
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theplayingmantis

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Chimune

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247 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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cuprabob

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238 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Around these parts the are replacing them with white LEDs which consume less power and require less maintenance and thus more cost effective.

theplayingmantis

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cuprabob said:
Around these parts the are replacing them with white LEDs which consume less power and require less maintenance and thus more cost effective.
Not very nice though are they, cold harsh white light not a soft orange warming glow...plus i think its easier to drive at night with orange street lights, white ones mask a little other vehicles headlights imo.

Assumed it was a cost exercise/efficiency, but couldn't they have orange covers on the light fixings frown

stargazer30

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190 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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The ones they’ve used locally to me don’t diffuse properly so you end up with bright patch’s with dark dead zones in between.

mac96

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Monday 28th November 2022
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No doubt cost saving is main driver but they also reduce light pollution.
To me they seem to be less effective atlighting the streets though.

theplayingmantis

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yes to add, agree deadspots and dont seem to diffuse as well either...

otolith

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Monday 28th November 2022
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Lower energy consumption, longer lifespan, more accurate colour rendering (easier to see differences in colour under white light which makes it easier to see what things are). Set against, worse light pollution (because we perceive the light as brighter), more likely to disturb people's sleep and body clocks.

If you put a coloured filter on them you'd have to run them brighter.

Defcon5

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215 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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The colour temperature was a choice though surely, they could have had yellower LEDs

mike74

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I find in certain situations it makes it harder to differentiate between streetlights and car headlights, there's a particular roundabout near me on the crest of a hill so the streetlights on the entrance/exit roads appear to be more or less down at ground level, quite disorientating trying to distinguish between headlights and streetlights particularly in wet weather.

Dave Hedgehog

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228 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Defcon5 said:
The colour temperature was a choice though surely, they could have had yellower LEDs
yellow wasn't picked because it was nice, it was cheap

juice

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MitchT

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Horrid things. I sometimes walk down the road to the post box when it's dark. The white streetlights are very bright but the light is very concentrated in a specific area and it's very dark walking in the shadows between the pools of light. Can't the plastic cover over the bulbs be of a colour and design that softens the light and diffuses it over a wide area?

austinsmirk

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147 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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I had a whole housing estate upgraded from orange to duel head led.

Mainly to try and reduce crime, asb etc.

Illuminate the little scrotes. Seriously!!!

Spare tyre

12,152 posts

154 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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We have a led swap out in the street lights here, a few have failed and it’s like a rave strobe.

StevieBee

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279 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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There is some benefit to be had in LED lights along main roads and motorways as it's proven to improve peripheral vision but these tend to operate at a much higher power than your normal neighbourhood light where they're plainly awful.

They're also damaging to wildlife - studies have shown hedgerows near to LED lamps are becoming devoid of animal life due to the type of light projected. The level of damage to the local ecology is cancelling out any gain on wider eco-benefits that LED might afford.






GiantCardboardPlato

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45 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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mac96 said:
No doubt cost saving is main driver but they also reduce light pollution.
To me they seem to be less effective atlighting the streets though.
Except it doesn’t. Astronomers could easily filter out the old orange lamps because they emitted only one wavelength of light (ok, technically 2, but… 1nm apart - 489nm, the emission line of sodium).

The new broad spectrum white LEDs can’t be filtered out in the same way. Making visual/optical astronomy much harder.

adamInca

232 posts

167 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Might well be rubbish, but when they started doing this I read the white colour temp was to improve identifiication of colours by witnesses at night.
But agree it makes for more stark, cold and ironically darker streets.

The Rotrex Kid

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184 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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Why are they replacing gas lamps with these new fangled electric bulbs? What will the Lamplighters do now eh?!

cmsapms

708 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2022
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It's part of the ongoing attempt to make everything just a little bit more sh!t.