Challenging a 50 r PCN (no right turn)
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As above, private hire driver turned right into a supermarket car park to pick up a customer. It was dark and they didn’t see a sign stating that @ certain hours of the day, it is forbidden to turn right.
This isn’t an area of the country that the PHD driver knows or has been to before.
The local authority concerned has a camera monitoring this place and must be £ raking it in.
Is there any way of challenging this ?
This isn’t an area of the country that the PHD driver knows or has been to before.
The local authority concerned has a camera monitoring this place and must be £ raking it in.
Is there any way of challenging this ?
Edited by SS427 Camaro on Friday 9th December 22:03
How far do you think the "I'm not familiar with the area and didn't see the road sign" defence should get you? Breaking a couple of speed limits because they were on unfamiliar roads? Driving across a couple of roundabouts because you hadn't been there before and didn't expect them?
I really don't think you have any defence at all.
I really don't think you have any defence at all.
SS427 Camaro said:
As above, a P H Driver turned right into a supermarket car park, to pick up a customer. It was dark, they didn’t see the sign stating that @ certain hours of the day, it is forbidden to turn right.
This isn’t an area of the country that the PHD driver knows or has been to before.
The local authority concerned has a camera monitoring this place and must be £ raking it in.
Is there any way of challenging this ?
Just in case.This isn’t an area of the country that the PHD driver knows or has been to before.
The local authority concerned has a camera monitoring this place and must be £ raking it in.
Is there any way of challenging this ?
SS427 Camaro said:
As above, a P H Driver turned right into a supermarket car park, to pick up a customer. It was dark, they didn’t see the sign stating that @ certain hours of the day, it is forbidden to turn right.
This isn’t an area of the country that the PHD driver knows or has been to before.
The local authority concerned has a camera monitoring this place and must be £ raking it in.
Is there any way of challenging this ?
If the signage was ambiguous, poorly located, obstructed, etc. then use that as the basis of an appeal.This isn’t an area of the country that the PHD driver knows or has been to before.
The local authority concerned has a camera monitoring this place and must be £ raking it in.
Is there any way of challenging this ?
If not, and the driver just did not see the signage, then there's less chance of a successful appeal.
littleredrooster said:
I know it's possibly not relevant, but what is a P H Driver and/or a PHD driver?
The latter gets to call themselves Dr Driver.Back to OP, I think you may be banged to rights here unless you want to go down the route of proving the signs aren't adequate. Unlike dealing with a private parking company who will likely back down, you would have to be conversant with the relevant parts of the law on signage and prove that the signs weren't adequate. Not impossible, but it will require a lot of swotting up and time which may be better off spent earning the money to pay the fine.
SS427 Camaro said:
Mandat said:
If the signage was ambiguous, poorly located, obstructed, etc. then use that as the basis of an appeal.
If not, and the driver just did not see the signage, then there's less chance of a successful appeal.
Yes, the sign is poorly located. If not, and the driver just did not see the signage, then there's less chance of a successful appeal.
carl_w said:
The latter gets to call themselves Dr Driver.
Back to OP, I think you may be bang to rights here unless you want to go down the route of proving the signs aren't adequate. Unlike dealing with a private parking company who will likely back down, you would have to be conversant with the relevant parts of the law on signage and prove that the signs weren't adequate. Not impossible, but it will require a lot of swotting up and time which may be better off spent earning the money to pay the fine.
The ever helpful Bert!Back to OP, I think you may be bang to rights here unless you want to go down the route of proving the signs aren't adequate. Unlike dealing with a private parking company who will likely back down, you would have to be conversant with the relevant parts of the law on signage and prove that the signs weren't adequate. Not impossible, but it will require a lot of swotting up and time which may be better off spent earning the money to pay the fine.
babelfish said:
SS427 Camaro said:
Mandat said:
If the signage was ambiguous, poorly located, obstructed, etc. then use that as the basis of an appeal.
If not, and the driver just did not see the signage, then there's less chance of a successful appeal.
Yes, the sign is poorly located. If not, and the driver just did not see the signage, then there's less chance of a successful appeal.
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