RE: Carver One | The Brave Pill
RE: Carver One | The Brave Pill
Saturday 10th December 2022

Carver One | The Brave Pill

Three wheels on this week's wagon


While most of the cars chosen for Brave Pill require little introduction, this week we’re heading into the unknown. Award yourself a PH house point if you were even aware of the existence of the Carver One before clicking on this story. If there is a typical Brave Pill – one that is large, German, and with a juicy V8 up front – this is the exact opposite. So completely different you can imagine a giant foot descending from the sky above it while Sousa’s Liberty Bell March plays. 

Although enthusiasts love to celebrate minor differences, most cars are very similar. A reconnoitring alien visiting earth at 20 year intervals would likely report that the planet’s dominant lifeforms seemed to evolve very slowly: they have four-wheels, are made from metal, and live with angry members of a bipedal sub-species trapped inside them. Take the long view and ask yourself what was the last truly radical automotive innovation: front-wheel drive? Monocoque construction? Go-faster stripes?

But every so often, the dam seems to break and somebody produces something completely fresh. The Carver One is definitely one of those moments, a vehicle that pretty much manages to defy categorisation.

There have been plenty of three-wheelers in the hinterland between car and motorbike, of course. That list extends from Edwardian three-wheeled Morgans through Bond Bugs and Reliant Robins, all the way back to the Morgan Super Three. All of those were closer to being cars than bikes. On the other side of the balance were the chunky trikes favoured by a certain type of chunky biker: a motorcycle front end with two wheels at the back. But the basic physics of having three points of contact meant that even these cornered without leaning.

Not the Carver One. Produced by a Dutch company called Vandenbrink, after an 11-year development process that reportedly included assistance from Prodrive, the Carver added the ability to tilt to the stability of having three wheels. It has conventional car-like controls, with a steering wheel, gearstick and three pedals in the footwell. Steering is done through the 17-inch front motorbike wheel, but it also has a hydraulic ram at the back which leans the whole cockpit over in response to how quickly the steering wheel gets moved, tilting into a turn like a bike would. While the party was going on up front - with the passenger compartment leaning at up to 45 degrees - the rear-mounted engine and gearbox stayed upright and sensible between the dual rear wheels.

The motor was a 0.6-litre turbocharged Daihatsu unit from a Japanese Kai car, which then drove conventional 15-inch car tyres through a five-speed manual gearbox. The standard version had 68hp, which worked against a 670kg mass to give a top speed of 115mph and an eight second 0-60mph time. Original reviews also said that there would be an optional 85hp version which would add a bit more performance, but the dealer selling our Pill quotes the figures for the basic engine. Given the novelty of the driving experience, that’s probably enough.

There weren’t actually many contemporary reviews, and I’ve never seen one, let alone driven it. Richard Hammond drove it for Top Gear, the then baby-faced presenter seeming to love it and bubbling over with boyish enthusiasm as he slalomed his away down straight roads. Other write ups were more guarded in their praise, and seeing an old friend’s name on one of these I broke the fourth wall and asked if he had any memories. “It was fun, but also terrifying,” he said, “I turned motion sick after about five minutes and remember it felt quite sketchy in the rain and over bumps, there wasn’t much front end grip and with the cabin leaning over it was hard to tell what was going on. I enjoyed it, but I wasn’t sorry to get out of it.”

The driving experience was novel, but the Carver had other issues. Practicality was limited with a fore-and-aft tandem seating layout, although the dealer’s pictures of this one show that it does, unexpectedly, have a cup holder. The gawky looks left the front suspension and steering gear on view, but were well short of dynamic machismo. A bigger problem was the seriousness of its price tag. When the Hamster drove the one in 2003 he quoted a price of £22,500, but three years alter that had increased to £27,500 in the UK, meaning it cost the same as a Lotus Elise - a comparison it was always going to struggle to win. The Carver’s rarity in the UK suggests that very few were actually sold here, with the lack of a handed steering wheel making it easy - pre Brexit - to bring them in from elsewhere in Europe. Yet it might have been a canny investment for its first buyer, considering the dealer selling our Pill has it up for £34,995.

It would seem to be a later life import. Despite wearing a 58 registration it is showing as having been first registered in July 2016, suggesting that might have been the point at which it entered the country. There’s another clue in that its first MOT recorded kilometers, with all the subsequent ones being in miles. Use has been sparing in that time, with the official record showing that this Carver did just 31 miles between its 2017 and 2018 tests, then 29 the next year and 34 the one after. Mileage trended upwards in 2021, with the dizzying total of 1200 miles between passes. The good news is that there hasn’t been a single advisory on any of its tests, but the most recent ticket ran out last month and will need to be renewed. 

The price being asked for this one is likely to get some bread thrown in the comments, but another example sold last year at auction for £30,300 before fees; it’s not as if they come up for sale very often. The Carver company still exists and is now offering a fully electric version with a redesigned front end but a much lower top speed - even the most potent S+ seems to be limited to just 49mph. But the ‘leccy version is also being sold for just £14,490, meaning you could have two new ones for the same price as this one. That would double the seating and give the chance to transport a family for a weekend visit to the pub. Who doesn’t love a bit of Sunday Carvery?


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mrclav

Original Poster:

1,645 posts

253 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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£35k for that? Nah, I'm good thanks. Hard pass.

pycraft

1,500 posts

214 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Remember Sid from Toy Story, the evil kid next door? It fells like this is what he did to a Twizy.

Chubbyross

5,007 posts

115 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Nay, nay and thrice nay.

paradigital

1,109 posts

182 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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You’d have to be brave to own one, what with the risk of throwing up every time you look at it from any angle.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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The front end upsets my symmetry OCD.

The Wookie

14,209 posts

258 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Bizarrely I saw two of these on the back of a transporter a few weeks ago! Forgot they even existed until then

pycraft

1,500 posts

214 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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It feels like someone liked the idea of the MonoTracer but couldn't commit to losing two wheels:


blearyeyedboy

6,811 posts

209 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Now resurrected as an urban electric vehicle, without the top speed of this petrol model and probably more viable for people who don't need to step out of the city. Basic models will do about 30mph, nippier ones about 50mph. It's also a great deal cheaper. I'm quite tempted to have a try, even if just for a giggle. Here's a review by Jack Scarlett, formerly of this parish:

https://youtu.be/7p5Uym-YdAc

And here's Carver's UK website these days:
https://www.carverelectric.co.uk/

The Wookie said:
Bizarrely I saw two of these on the back of a transporter a few weeks ago! Forgot they even existed until then
You probably saw the new electric ones.

Edited by blearyeyedboy on Saturday 10th December 07:50

blearyeyedboy

6,811 posts

209 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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pycraft said:
It feels like someone liked the idea of the MonoTracer but couldn't commit to losing two wheels:

Yes, true that, but you can drive the Carver on a normal licence.

Alex_225

7,840 posts

231 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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I remember Clarkson driving an orange Carver on a DVD he did in around 2004/5. He rated it as one of the most fun cars of the year, up there with the RX8!!

I think because of that I have a soft spot for these although if it was £34k on this or a whole list of other things, this wouldn't be at the top of the list. If I had a spare £34k and a collection of cars, I'd love one even if it's just for the occasional sunny drive. Looks like a laugh.

Unreal

10,926 posts

55 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Never in a million years.

CalisenQX

218 posts

103 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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You’d have to be mentally ill to even think about buying this… and 35k? Good joke.

AndySheff

6,932 posts

237 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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fk no !

darrenw

347 posts

313 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Had a look around one at a Manchester Cars and Coffee a little while back, fascinating thing. Drew a lot of attention!

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

71 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Struggling to understand why this even exists.
Massively compromised vs a car or a bike depending what you asked of it and crazy expensive first time round.

kambites

71,588 posts

251 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Slowlygettingit said:
Struggling to understand why this even exists.
For fun. Everyone who drives one seems to come away grinning like a maniac, a bit like the Morgan three-wheeler.

But yeah the price doesn't really seem very sensible!

Edited by kambites on Saturday 10th December 08:49

broncoupe

165 posts

256 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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All missing the point you wont buy this if the money is an issue
But i can tell you first hand the most amazing fun ever drove 1 a lifetime ago for several says
Everyone smiles at it TVR style and a friend and i re-enacted Top Gun in it managed indicated 87mph downhill
If i win lotto tonight its mine

aestivator

265 posts

60 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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A mechanical embodiment of 'just because you can, doesn't mean you should'.

In that colour it also looks half trike, half toaster

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,773 posts

128 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Always loved the idea of these. No one is ever going to do serious miles in it so might as well get the newer electric version.

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1329802/cynici...

"But the authors argue that cynicism isn’t so useful if it’s our default position, noting that a slew of studies on the relationship between trust and health and finances find that thinking the worst tends to lead to worse results in terms of earnings and well-being.

"Cross-cultural analyses showed that competent individuals held contingent attitudes and endorsed cynicism only if it was warranted in a given sociocultural environment,” the researchers write. “Less competent individuals embraced cynicism unconditionally, suggesting that—at low levels of competence—holding a cynical worldview might represent an adaptive default strategy to avoid the potential costs of falling prey to others’ cunning."

Explains a lot about many of Pistonheads' more cynical posters.

This car exists because it is fun, and it is a reasonable price for something fun and fairly rare.

Stop trying to make yourselves feel clever by being cynical by default.

You're making yourselves look stupid and you're making this place miserable.