Thinking outside the box car wise
Discussion
So I currently don’t have my own vehicle and have been looking for a replacement for my old Golf GTD I sold due to having loads of issues. Only had it 3 months but it was a bit of a nightmare.
I have been looking at the Golf GTI 2016 models but not sure I’m willing to spend that amount of money on the car this time due to making a loss on the previous one. I have also looked at the Focus ST mk3 but it doesn’t really do it for me.
The reality is I don’t do too much driving as I mostly work from home. I have now set a new budget of £10000. The car must be a petrol this time. It’s just me and my wife and we have another car so can be any size really.
I have had a look at the fiesta ST and Polo GTI too but not too sure about them. I had a fiesta ST before (previous generation) and at the time I loved it but was a pig to resell.
Any other options open to me I should consider ?
Thanks in advance
I have been looking at the Golf GTI 2016 models but not sure I’m willing to spend that amount of money on the car this time due to making a loss on the previous one. I have also looked at the Focus ST mk3 but it doesn’t really do it for me.
The reality is I don’t do too much driving as I mostly work from home. I have now set a new budget of £10000. The car must be a petrol this time. It’s just me and my wife and we have another car so can be any size really.
I have had a look at the fiesta ST and Polo GTI too but not too sure about them. I had a fiesta ST before (previous generation) and at the time I loved it but was a pig to resell.
Any other options open to me I should consider ?
Thanks in advance
Loads of choice available for around £10k
What about the Fiesta ST's bigger brother the Focus?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212082...
Lovely Alfa Romeo Giulietta TBi TCT with recent cambelt and waterpump
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210241...
Mini Cooper S would give a Fiesta ST a run for its money
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207077...
Why not get something a bit older, but with low mileage that has been well looked after, like this FN2 Honda Civic Type R? Won't have the torque shove of a Golf GTD, but you can rev it all the way out to 8000 rpm. Should also be much more reliable and won't depreciate too much either hopefully
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208058...
These Renaultsport Meganes are awesome, dealer is offering it with a 6 month warranty that can be extended up to 3 years if you are worrying about another situation like you had with your Golf
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211241...
Seat Leon 1.8 TSI FR (same underpinnings as Golf GTI's/D's)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211131...
Kia Proceed GT
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205195...
Vauxhall Astra GTC VXR packs a serious punch with 280 bhp
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211091...
BMW 120i Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207298...
What about the Fiesta ST's bigger brother the Focus?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212082...
Lovely Alfa Romeo Giulietta TBi TCT with recent cambelt and waterpump
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210241...
Mini Cooper S would give a Fiesta ST a run for its money
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207077...
Why not get something a bit older, but with low mileage that has been well looked after, like this FN2 Honda Civic Type R? Won't have the torque shove of a Golf GTD, but you can rev it all the way out to 8000 rpm. Should also be much more reliable and won't depreciate too much either hopefully
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208058...
These Renaultsport Meganes are awesome, dealer is offering it with a 6 month warranty that can be extended up to 3 years if you are worrying about another situation like you had with your Golf
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211241...
Seat Leon 1.8 TSI FR (same underpinnings as Golf GTI's/D's)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211131...
Kia Proceed GT
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205195...
Vauxhall Astra GTC VXR packs a serious punch with 280 bhp
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211091...
BMW 120i Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207298...
I'm in a sort of similar position work wise, but I'm 24 and still living at home and not driven for the last 3 years or so because I was finishing final year of uni and then covid happened and my car was written off right before first lockdown.
Feel free to check out the thread I made, it's now on page 2 I think because I've probably got to hold off for a few weeks or maybe wait until later in January or Feb because of the current weather and not much point rushing when it's snowing and the cars are getting iced up practically every other day.
Which generation Fiesta ST was it? The MK6 2.0 or the MK7 1.6? I think if you get a MK7 and it has under say 45k miles when you go to sell, then it shouldn't be too difficult at all. I was pretty surprised a FB friend of mine actually got 11k just a couple days ago for a ST-2 privately, when that's ST-3 money, but it was a clean unmodified example in white with around 35k miles.
I've been personally considering MK5 Golf GTIs, but if you had issues running a MK7 then I'm not sure a MK5 is any more reliable. My parents would rather me get something newer so I may end up with something like a MK8 Fiesta ST or newer Golf/Polo or even a Up GTI if I wait a few more months and save a bit more.
How important is 3 door or 5 door? Civic Type R FN2 could be a decent shout but the looks are a bit marmite I suppose and also apparently the ride quality is sort of harsh. Think the Abarths are even worse though from what I've heard. Depends how hot it needs to be, but other suggestions I was given were like Vauxhall Astra GTCs, Alfa Romeo Mitos/Guilietas and Suzuki Swift Sport.
I'm pretty unsure myself so if you manage to go have a hunt sooner than me, I'd be interested to know how the different cars compare to you. My previous car was a 140 ST-Line MK7.5, and who knows, I may just end up getting another and doing the mods I couldn't really do last time, but the ST is a much better platform for that, but has its drawbacks where the seats may be too hugging for me, keyless entry security issues, and just general image on the road, but I think actually the MK7 ST sometimes goes under the radar if it's not been changed too much on the exterior and is in a understated colour.
Hope this reply isn't too long lol, typed it all on my phone as I'm getting up for the day
Feel free to check out the thread I made, it's now on page 2 I think because I've probably got to hold off for a few weeks or maybe wait until later in January or Feb because of the current weather and not much point rushing when it's snowing and the cars are getting iced up practically every other day.
Which generation Fiesta ST was it? The MK6 2.0 or the MK7 1.6? I think if you get a MK7 and it has under say 45k miles when you go to sell, then it shouldn't be too difficult at all. I was pretty surprised a FB friend of mine actually got 11k just a couple days ago for a ST-2 privately, when that's ST-3 money, but it was a clean unmodified example in white with around 35k miles.
I've been personally considering MK5 Golf GTIs, but if you had issues running a MK7 then I'm not sure a MK5 is any more reliable. My parents would rather me get something newer so I may end up with something like a MK8 Fiesta ST or newer Golf/Polo or even a Up GTI if I wait a few more months and save a bit more.
How important is 3 door or 5 door? Civic Type R FN2 could be a decent shout but the looks are a bit marmite I suppose and also apparently the ride quality is sort of harsh. Think the Abarths are even worse though from what I've heard. Depends how hot it needs to be, but other suggestions I was given were like Vauxhall Astra GTCs, Alfa Romeo Mitos/Guilietas and Suzuki Swift Sport.
I'm pretty unsure myself so if you manage to go have a hunt sooner than me, I'd be interested to know how the different cars compare to you. My previous car was a 140 ST-Line MK7.5, and who knows, I may just end up getting another and doing the mods I couldn't really do last time, but the ST is a much better platform for that, but has its drawbacks where the seats may be too hugging for me, keyless entry security issues, and just general image on the road, but I think actually the MK7 ST sometimes goes under the radar if it's not been changed too much on the exterior and is in a understated colour.
Hope this reply isn't too long lol, typed it all on my phone as I'm getting up for the day

Ooh you beat me to it georgeyboy, thanks.
I've seen you in some of the other threads but don't think you came to mine.
Maybe most of these options had already been given to me in one way or another but I guess I'm still unsure which direction to go until I go check them out in person.
Will be interesting to see which way the OP goes, size wise I might look at a Focus because of the newer infotainment etc than a equivalent year MK7 Fiesta, but that may be too big for me. My only experience is in Polo / Fiesta size cars.
I've seen you in some of the other threads but don't think you came to mine.
Maybe most of these options had already been given to me in one way or another but I guess I'm still unsure which direction to go until I go check them out in person. Will be interesting to see which way the OP goes, size wise I might look at a Focus because of the newer infotainment etc than a equivalent year MK7 Fiesta, but that may be too big for me. My only experience is in Polo / Fiesta size cars.
996Keef said:
Personally I'd avoid the fords as they are getting nicked left right and centre around here
There's two pretty similar products out there which try to stop that and are like a go-to from doing my research years ago and they're still being installed now. Viper 106v and Sterling Excel. Thing you can get more complex immobilisers but those seem to do the job. Still, a lot of STs and Range Rovers etc seem to be getting targeted from some boot vulnerabilities or the key spot in the driver's door handle. Moving the OBD port away is probably not a bad idea unless you need it for tuning or diagnostics.I know what you mean though, that's part of the reason I got a ST-Line rather than a ST as my first car and specifically didn't spec keyless entry.
AlanS20 said:
The reality is I don’t do too much driving as I mostly work from home. I have now set a new budget of £10000. The car must be a petrol this time. It’s just me and my wife and we have another car so can be any size really.
In which case, I'd look at getting a sports car:MX-5 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211252... - new shape 1.5, could also get a previous gen facelift 2.0
MR-2 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211061...
Boxster https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211081...
Not only will they be more fun to drive than a hatch and probably less likely to be nicked, they're generally a better bet for residuals too.
The ND MX-5 1.5 is probably the safest bet maintenance wise, don't think rust has caught up with them yet.
Astra GTC VXR, great steers & a good car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211221...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211221...
Fiat 124:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210190...
G37 Coupe a four seater 370Z:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208259...
370Z
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212052...
Z4 35si:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207027...
R32:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208018...
E500 Coupe:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206237...
Giulietta Cloverleaf:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206237...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210291...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211221...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211221...
Fiat 124:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210190...
G37 Coupe a four seater 370Z:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208259...
370Z
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212052...
Z4 35si:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207027...
R32:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208018...
E500 Coupe:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206237...
Giulietta Cloverleaf:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206237...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210291...
samoht said:
AlanS20 said:
The reality is I don’t do too much driving as I mostly work from home. I have now set a new budget of £10000. The car must be a petrol this time. It’s just me and my wife and we have another car so can be any size really.
In which case, I'd look at getting a sports car:MX-5 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211252... - new shape 1.5, could also get a previous gen facelift 2.0
MR-2 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211061...
Boxster https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211081...
Not only will they be more fun to drive than a hatch and probably less likely to be nicked, they're generally a better bet for residuals too.
The ND MX-5 1.5 is probably the safest bet maintenance wise, don't think rust has caught up with them yet.
Stallzy said:
Ooh you beat me to it georgeyboy, thanks.
I've seen you in some of the other threads but don't think you came to mine.
Maybe most of these options had already been given to me in one way or another but I guess I'm still unsure which direction to go until I go check them out in person.
Will be interesting to see which way the OP goes, size wise I might look at a Focus because of the newer infotainment etc than a equivalent year MK7 Fiesta, but that may be too big for me. My only experience is in Polo / Fiesta size cars.
Yeah your thread was already multiple pages long by the time I got around to reading it and a load of good suggestions that I would have made anyway had already been made I've seen you in some of the other threads but don't think you came to mine.
Maybe most of these options had already been given to me in one way or another but I guess I'm still unsure which direction to go until I go check them out in person. Will be interesting to see which way the OP goes, size wise I might look at a Focus because of the newer infotainment etc than a equivalent year MK7 Fiesta, but that may be too big for me. My only experience is in Polo / Fiesta size cars.

Shout out for a Peugeot 208 GTI Prestige at this budget.
Serious laugh to drive and is proper chuckable. A great interior and spec. Very easy to drive, parts are good value, insurance cheap, very economical for a hot hatch and doesn’t get targeted to get nicked.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199...
Serious laugh to drive and is proper chuckable. A great interior and spec. Very easy to drive, parts are good value, insurance cheap, very economical for a hot hatch and doesn’t get targeted to get nicked.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199...
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