RE: 2023 Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | PH Review
RE: 2023 Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | PH Review
Wednesday 14th December 2022

2023 Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | PH Review

Forget everything you know about the C63. Or at least try to...


From the moment it started beating the field by half a minute in the early days of the V6 turbo hybrid era, Mercedes has been dead keen to show that the tech it develops for Formula 1 has a direct impact on its road cars. This desire is ultimately best demonstrated by the AMG One, a 1,000hp hypercar powered by the same engine found in a 2015-spec F1 car. It’s not been an easy ride, that's for sure, but the technical nous required to mount one of these highly complicated power units in the middle of a road car - and then have it function reliably - is nothing short of incredible.

And doubly crazy, when you think about it, because everyone hated the V6 turbo hybrid cars when they debuted in 2014. Quiet, heavy and so lacking in aural drama that F1 fans threatened to switch off unless the old V8s were reinstated. Of course, by highlighting the absence of ear-splitting noise, the great unwashed were doing a massive disservice to what is otherwise a truly remarkable and highly efficient bit of engineering. So when it made its way into a road car, it deservedly made headlines – even if it does sound a bit rubbish. 

You probably know where I’m going with this. For the new C63 S E Performance, Mercedes-AMG decided, against the better judgement of some, to get along with half the established cylinder count, and replace the missing pistons with a battery and electric motor. A vastly different car from its V8-touting predecessor has inevitably emerged, but it's one the company reckons is well-suited at a new audience - i.e. the rich millennials that will make up the next generation of AMG buyer. An inconvenient truth for its established customers, perhaps - but fitting for this tech-crazed millennial, lined up for his first taste of Affalterbach’s handiwork and unencumbered by firsthand experience of the dearly departed 4.0-litre engine. 

This brings us to the first elephant in the room. No, not the weight. Not yet, anyway. I mean what exactly does this new C63 sound like? You needn't have driven the old car to know that AMG did an incredible job making the twin-turbo V8 sound almost as monstrous as its naturally aspirated predecessor, but, as you might expect, no amount of exhaust trickery can make up for the comparative lack of cylinders in the E Performance. Granted, there’s a deep hum on tick over and naturally there’s the obligatory sound symposer pumping an artificial note into the cabin (though it sounds far better when it’s switched off). But it just can’t replicate the melodrama. Foreseeable, perhaps - there are only so many miracles that can be worked when dealing with an absence - but a crying shame, too, especially when you factor in AMG's long, illustrious history as an engine builder. Much like its other four-cylinder applications, some of the old mystique has inevitably been diluted. 

In other areas, of course, there have been irrefutable gains. The on-paper stats are staggering. The C63 is powered by a longitudinally mounted 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine (codenamed M139L) that’s paired with a rear-mounted electric motor and battery. Combined they produce 680hp and 752lb ft of torque, a gigantic improvement over the old car, with a claimed 3.4 second 0-62mph time for both saloon and estate. Even here there is a caveat, however. Full power is only unlocked (provided you have enough charge) when you hit the kickdown switch at the base of the accelerator. AMG won’t put a number on power when you’re not in the electrically assisted boost mode, as the electric output depends on the position of the accelerator. But we understand it's somewhere in the region of 550hp to 600hp in the sportier modes.

Another bewildering number is claimed by the second elephant. The C63 weighs 2,111kg in saloon format, and 2,145kg for the estate. So while the power-to-weight figure comes in at a respectable 322hp per tonne for the saloon when in boost mode, it’ll likely slip below the 291hp per tonne of the old spec C63 S in other circumstances. And it’s noticeable when you pin the accelerator. The new C63 is very brisk, of course, but it doesn’t deliver the relentless acceleration that you initially expect from a car knocking on supercar levels of performance. It’s quick off the line, in part thanks to the electric boost from the back of the car, with AMG engineers hinting that a 0-62mph time of three seconds flat could be possible with perfect conditions. Once you’re up and running, though, there’s little drama – and therefore precious little temptation to hit the kickdown switch when pulling onto a straight.

You’ll also notice that, with the driver mode clicked over to Race, there’s a distinct thump from the rear when the second ratio for the electric motor is activated. While I’m assured zero momentum is lost in the process, it does catch you off guard when the car changes gear even though you haven’t pulled on one of the paddles - almost as if you’ve hit the rev limiter. It’s followed by an extra shove of electric power, and thankfully you can dial down the jolt from the back end in the settings. 

So if all that weight stops the C63 from feeling breathtakingly fast in a straight line, how does it manage a set of bends? Impressively, it must be said. On the highly technical layout of Ascari, the C63 feels about as close to home as you could reasonably expect. There’s real urgency on turn-in, thanks in part to the rear-axle steering that makes the C63 feel as though it wraps itself around an apex, rather than simply clipping it. In Race mode, and with the ESP in its least intrusive setting, it’s possible to get the rear wheels to break traction for what feels like the perfect amount of rotation mid-corner. Not enough to scrub off speed, but it’s moments like this where the C63 seems a bit more organic, rather than a predetermined experience mapped out by the computer. You won’t feel all at sea when the rear end eventually lets go, either, with the AMG Dynamics working overtime to manage the eLSD and ESP to keep you out of the wall. The steering is nicely weighted, too, and your inputs translate into a credible response from the front axle. 

The suspension is no less impressive. Developed from the AMG GT3 racer and GT Black Series, each damper includes two hydraulically activated valves that can be rapidly opened or closed. When open, oil fills two additional champers, though these can be individually closed off to stiffen up the response. It’s this system that prevents the C63 from succumbing to the downside of all that mass, and it works superbly in practice, with the super saloon remaining level no matter how hard you chuck it in. And with so many systems in play, it’s remarkable how they whir away in the background without ever threatening to overwhelm the driving experience. On track, the focus is squarely on lowering your lap times. 

That’s not to say the cockpit isn’t a busy affair. With the Track Pace mode enabled, the virtual cockpit lights up with all sorts of alerts to make you feel like Lewis Hamilton/George Russell (delete as appropriate). With the Ascari circuit programmed in, the car provides a real-time readout of your lap time delta, goading you to get on the power a little earlier to see the timer switch from red to green. Track Pace also uses a trick algorithm to predict the best places around your chosen circuit to deploy boost mode. Activate the electrical boost all the time, say AMG, and you’re more likely to run out of puff at the end of the lap, leaving you with no battery power for your next run. Hitting the kickdown switch when the system prompts will give the battery opportunities to charge up during the lap, resulting in a more consistent lap time. You can, however, go all out in ‘Hot Lap’ mode, which gives you maximum power the moment you hit the accelerator – but you’ll drain the battery in a handful of laps. Just like you would in an F1 qualifying session.

If that all sounds a little less than playful, then good - because the C63 is not that. All the hybrid trickery hasn’t put paid to AMG’s dedicated drift mode (perish the thought), but there’s nothing remotely lairy about it under normal conditions. Get ham-fisted with the throttle and the front end simply washes out under duress. Sure, it’s incredibly precise on a hot lap and is unlikely to give you any nasty surprises on a cold, drizzly December morning - but it would probably be easier to overlook the absence of a big, grumbly V8 if the C63 at least felt as wild to drive as its 680hp headline figure suggests. Yet it does not. 

And while it lets you play out your F1 driver fantasy very effectively, most C63s are unlikely to ever meet the angry side of a race circuit. Out on public roads, the story plays out in similar fashion. For hunkering down and covering miles at enormous pace, the C63 is magnificent. Firm, yet never back-breaking in Sport and Sport+, it becomes genuinely smooth and serine in Comfort - an ability its predecessor was not necessarily famous for. So much so that it's genuinely pleasant to switch over to electric mode from time to time, even if the C63’s 6.1kWh battery is only good for up to 8 miles on electric power alone. ‘Battery Hold’ allows you to keep some energy in reserve if you need some EV power later in your journey - but that's mostly about holding onto its full whack while you wait for a squiggly bit of tarmac. 

There's every chance that sort of button-pushing tomfoolery won't appeal to owners of the previous C63 (and its relative merits were greeted with ashen-faced looks among my colleagues) but there's a sobering argument which says it isn't aimed at them. Mercedes-AMG insists that it now sees itself as a tech company, which means that it wants to be at the forefront of what’s possible where combustion meets electric power. And with one of the company’s enthusiastic engineers walking you through the fascinating - yet utterly baffling - hybrid system, it does all start to make sense. But the problem is less to do with the firm's capacity for innovation than it is with production car execution. The technology is so advanced that it’s almost intangible, beavering away in the background so you’re left to focus on the driving - yet too distant and unfathomable to be appreciated on a gut level. And with no engineer bursting at the seams to explain the car’s many intricacies, it’ll be all down to a brief test drive for any new buyer to experience it - an area where any V8 worth its salt only needs a few moments to shine.

The C63 has exchanged some of that old-world charisma for computational cleverness. To be fair to it, the new model also suffers for being the first through this particular wall: the same sacrifice will likely come to all its rivals in time, but for now it seems like a tough sell when its arch-rival, the BMW M3, is not only a deeply engaging road car, but also comes with a large and rapacious petrol engine to boot. Not to mention the long-awaited Touring format that will see it compete head-on with the latest C63 estate. 

Moreover, while we await confirmation of final prices, all that F1-inspired hybrid technology is unlikely to come cheap. That isn't necessarily an impediment to its success, but the relative importance of a punchy exhaust note and lively rear end to the 'next generation' of AMG buyer absolutely could be. Earlier, I mentioned that F1 fans would walk away from the sport because the engines were so dull. They didn’t, because noise just isn’t a priority for newer F1 fans. Mercedes-AMG has wagered that, in time, it will prove the same for a quieter, more thoughtful sort of C63. But for this millennial, now finally in possession of a popped Affalterbach cherry, it left me feeling a little colder than its maker probably would've hoped. 


SPECIFICATION | MERCEDES-AMG C63 S E PERFORMANCE

Engine: 1,991cc four cylinder, turbocharged plug-in hybridTransmission: 9-speed automatic, all-wheel drivePower (hp): 680@6,750rpm (combined)Torque (lb ft): 752@5,250rpm (combined)
0-62mph: 3.4 seconds
Top speed: 174mph (limited)
Weight: 2,111kg (saloon), 2,145kg (estate)MPG: 41mpgCO2: 156g/kmPrice: TBC

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foxhounduk

Original Poster:

703 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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The fact that it's got to have a full charge to get the most performance puts me off right away. And then there's the weight. And there's no V8 noise. And the review didn't sound like it was face-rippingly fast either.
So, what's the point?

E46Rob

28 posts

134 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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In the TG site review, they noted that they got 19mpg with some not too spicy driving. So about what I get from my old E39 M5 then….

blue al

1,437 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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What will the engine rev to ? Has it a wide or narrow power band
Is it the existing A45 engine, or something with a bigger laggy turbo, supported by electric shove
What’s the real world range of the battery pack?
If the batteries are substantially depleted how much power is still available.?

Seems like it might become a paper tiger, difficult to judge, but feels like it might be less than the sum of its parts on this review ?

Portofino

5,349 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Such a shame, & I think they know it.

lotus116tornado

340 posts

182 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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blue al said:
What will the engine rev to ? Has it a wide or narrow power band
Is it the existing A45 engine, or something with a bigger laggy turbo, supported by electric shove
What’s the real world range of the battery pack?
If the batteries are substantially depleted how much power is still available.?

Seems like it might become a paper tiger, difficult to judge, but feels like it might be less than the sum of its parts on this review ?
The real world range of the battery pack in winter on the motorway at 75-80 is 4 miles or in summer on city roads at 25-30mph it would cover 7 miles.

It is a heavily reworked A45 engine with a puny electric battery pack bolted on. Drive fast and the battery pack will be dead in 10 minutes thus rendering the C63 with less than 500bhp and less than 230bhp/tonne.

The C63 is dead.

yme402

655 posts

132 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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A pretend AMG.
A marketing exercise dining out on past glories. Snap up a proper AMG while you can.

Venisonpie

4,829 posts

112 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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It's got the lot. Matt paint, black wheels, black windows, massive touch screen, chintz interior, inappropriate engine and weighs the same as a van.

Hideous.

covmutley

3,362 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Those heater controls look remarkably tricky to use.

Amazing how they have been able to waste so much space on such a large screen to result in such tiny 'buttons'.

And also whst everyone else above has said too...

£85k, I'm guessing??

whp1983

1,379 posts

169 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Like watching a retired pro athlete get old and fat…. It’ll never be what it was, we know it, they know it.


Kuja

18 posts

134 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Figures this would be the first one to draw me out of lurking...
This car was never going to be popular on here, that much is plain. Even allowing for bias, though, I just... cannot see the point of this car.

If one wants a characterful car of this type, with the glory of a combustion engine, the BMW M3 is now far more appealing, as is the Audi RS4 and Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio (and Lexus IS500 for those lucky enough to have it as an option). It seems they're not much different on real-world fuel efficiency either.
Equally, if one wants to embrace 'the future', seeking efficiency and lower running costs, or just straight-line acceleration bragging rights, a Tesla Model 3 or BMW i4 M50i is far ahead, and more pure electric models will surely join them.

Why choose this, with its fantastically complicated and heavy hybrid setup, when it seems to offer the worst of both worlds? It seems to be at the very best an inelegant (read: needlessly complex) engineering solution.
It won't appeal to traditional AMG faithful, they even seem content in alienating those, yet it won't win over enthusiasts from the likes of the M3, or pure electric fans either.
So who is it for? People graduating from A45s and wanting to stay within the brand? Surely that's a fickle market, and likely to be tempted by whatever else comes along with a flashier infotainment system.
(For the record, I fit into the 'millennial' bracket, and it very definitely does not appeal to me.)

As for why Mercedes-AMG have gone this route, I can only imagine that they have less fleet-average emissions wiggle room than do BMW or VAG.

Edited by Kuja on Wednesday 14th December 07:37

Twinair

1,033 posts

172 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Such a shame. I owned 3 C63 - M156 - V8’s, (80k miles daily use between the 3 of them) and I can honestly say no matter what the journey - I always got out feeling like there had been an experience & reward.

They had full power - always on - the well of torque was so addictive, it just kept you coming back to luxuriate & wallow under its rotational spell. They are marvellous.

On reading this - I will be buying a £20k - £25k nicely used & maintained version & showing it some respect into longer life.

If this is what ‘millennials’ want - which I don’t believe for a second given what my kids & their friend groups talk about and are interested in with cars, I am out, as am sure many others will be too.

I simply cannot believe this is progress for AMG?

Edited by Twinair on Wednesday 14th December 07:49

AC43

13,617 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Venisonpie said:
It's got the lot. Matt paint, black wheels, black windows, massive touch screen, chintz interior, inappropriate engine and weighs the same as a van.

Hideous.
All they have to do now is discontinue it for good and replace it with a three ton SUV and the cycle will be complete,

Dombilano

1,443 posts

85 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Had to double check that this is a C63, not an E63 after seeing that weight. Oooof

roadie

880 posts

292 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Fake vents, fake exhaust tips and noise and to me a truly untasteful cabin.

Not a car I would ever choose if I were in the position to.

ocrx8

894 posts

226 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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RIP C63

Jon_S_Rally

4,455 posts

118 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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This car is going to be a hard sell on PH, that's for sure.

I think it looks great from the outside personally, though I do struggle with modern Merc interiors. There's just too much going on for me.

The powertrain sounds interesting from an engineering perspective, but I don't think it's going to win many fans in AMG world. Even a lot of the youngsters that they claim will like it seem quite attached to the turbo V8 and all the tuning potential it offered. If this had been a turbo V6, I think it could have worked. As it stands, I'm not convinced.

Vee12V

1,410 posts

190 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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It seems this is a massively complicated answer to a question that wasn't there in the first place.

someoneelse

110 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Few thoughts…

It’s an insane engineering achievement, but so is the Humber Bridge and I don’t want to drive that.

Too much power and not enough drama. At the risk of sounding grumpy I can’t see what it gives you over a Golf R or A45 in most driving circumstances.

Bragging rights on power will be undermined by the engine configuration. Sounds like it is likely real-world fast but how often would you genuinely floor it on a public road to get the boost?

The max bhp point sounds like a bit of a chimera. The E60 M5 caught the same stick (400 bhp until you hit a button to make it 500) and is well remembered.

The electric kicking in sounds quite characterful entertaining, like the turbo on an old Saab.

leglessAlex

7,332 posts

171 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Twinair said:
If this is what ‘millennials’ want - which I don’t believe for a second given what my kids & their friend groups talk about and are interested in with cars, I am out, as am sure many others will be too.
Yeah, I think the whole millennial thing is just an excuse, and a bad one at that. I’m firmly in the middle of that generation and just don’t see the the point of this, although having owned a 6.2l and 5.5l AMG V8 before, I guess I was never going to.

The Article said:
it would probably be easier to overlook the absence of a big, grumbly V8 if the C63 at least felt as wild to drive as its 680hp headline figure suggests. Yet it does not.
This, I think, hits the nail on the head. If it doesn’t have the performance paired with the efficiency that Mercedes would lead us to believe, then what’s the point?

I think most W212 E63s come in at about 2.2 tons, and the tuned ones have about 650-680bhp at the crank. However, every one of them I’ve been in feels absolutely rabid, if it doesn’t then it’s hard to come to any other conclusion than it’s just not making the power it claims to. Or maybe it’s much, much heavier.

andy43

13,206 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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E46Rob said:
In the TG site review, they noted that they got 19mpg with some not too spicy driving. So about what I get from my old E39 M5 then….
hehe
This seems like AMG line but without the economy. Shame.