RE: Jaguar boosts EV range for MY24 F-Pace
RE: Jaguar boosts EV range for MY24 F-Pace
Wednesday 14th December 2022

Jaguar boosts EV range for MY24 F-Pace

Plug-in SUV now goes further on electric; SVR V8 remains on sale for those that want it...


Not so long ago, an SUV range update would have focused on better mpg for the diesel, a bit more performance from the petrol flagship, and maybe a price cut if you were lucky. Things are a little different now, with the big draw of Jaguar’s latest F-Pace being the increase in electric range of the plug-in hybrid. With good reason, too - the P400e, despite costing £60k, is said to account for more than 20 per cent of UK F-Pace sales. More range ought to increase that number. In the Netherlands, Jag reckons the plug-in could make up 98 per cent of the sales….

To the important numbers, then. Thanks to a bigger, 19.2kWh lithium-ion battery pack, with nine modules instead of eight, WLTP electric-only range for the P400e has increased from 33 miles to 40, which doesn’t sound much, but is an increase of more than 20 per cent. And who wouldn’t want more electric running? The bigger battery benefits fuel consumption and CO2, in addition, with those now rated at 176mpg and 37g/km respectively. That means a benefit-in-kind improvement as well, now 8 per cent instead of 12. The 2.0-litre-plus-battery powertrain provides no more power for the 2024 model year, though with 404hp and 472lb ft, plus a 0-62mph time of 5.0 seconds, it’s hard to imagine many customers feeling short-changed. The rest of the F-Pace engine lineup remains unchanged, with buyers offered a pair of 2.0-litre, four-cylinder engines (a 204hp mild hybrid diesel and 250hp petrol), a 3.0-litre straight six duo (the 300hp diesel and 400hp petrol) plus, of course, the rip-snorting 550hp SVR. We don’t know how the V8 has made it this far, but we all should be very happy that it has.

The trim levels on offer for each engine have been tweaked for the latest revision, the range now comprised of R-Dynamic S, R-Dynamic SE Black, R-Dynamic HSE Black, 400 Sport (the only option for the straight six petrol) and SVR. Which sounds an awful lot like making a Range Rover of the F-Pace, up to and including an enhanced, standard Black Pack - now on the mirror caps, badges, window surrounds, grille, and grille surrounds - for every model apart from the R-Dynamic S. Customer is always right, after all. Wheels start at a 19-inch for the S, then 20s for the SE, 21s for the Black and a forged 22 for the 400 Sport. All models now have the TFT Digital Driver Display, plus Alexa and even what3words included in the Pivi Pro. So absolutely no excuses for getting lost now.

Jaguar MD Philip Koehn said: “As we make progress to reimagine Jaguar to an all-electric luxury brand by 2025, we have been curating our existing products by offering richer and more desirable specifications. The first nameplate to receive this change was F-Type as we move towards 2023 and celebrate 75 years of Jaguar sports cars. We now move to F-Pace, an SUV that offers an unrivalled balance of ride, handling, refinement and luxury. 

“By increasing the range of the P400e plug-in electric hybrid by more than 20 per cent, it becomes an even more attractive combination of performance, efficiency and zero-tailpipe emissions driving capability, and that’s something we’re very proud of.”

The new F-Pace line up starts at £48,660 for the R-Dynamic S 2.0-litre diesel; the equivalent 2.0-litre petrol is £52,415. The 3.0-litre diesel is offered only as an R-Dynamic SE Black (£60,275), or £63,970 R-Dynamic HSE Black, and the P400 Sport is £69,280. The P400e F-Paces begin at £60,985, with the R-Dynamic SE Black at £65,715 and the R-Dynamic HSE Black at £69,335. The SVR, of course, tops the MY24 range, at £84,940. But it’s possible to spend an awful lot less than that to get a V8 F-Pace…




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GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,566 posts

118 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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If I was looking at a SUV, these do look tempting. Refreshing to see the shot with "non black" alloys too!!

GTEYE

2,503 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Isn’t referring to it as a “MY24” a bit of an Americanism?

MY23 would surely make more sense unless they’re making people wait another year….

The range however is more impressive, but I’d never buy a JLR product until there’s concrete proof that they are more reliable. Sadly everyone I’ve known with one has had at least one story of horror, bought back cars etc.

Edited by GTEYE on Wednesday 14th December 05:46

Black S2K

1,933 posts

279 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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I'm engineeringly-curious about the ninth battery module.

Must be added in series, upping the voltage.

Do the electronics handle it, or is reprogramming/upgrading the control module required?

Coffee's not yet kicked in...

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,774 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Can't stand when they release moody artistic shots of the interior such that you can't actually see it...

steveb8189

516 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Looks great especially in P400e guise. Shame it's about 20k more than my RAV4 PHEV although the extra 100bhp would be nice

M1C

2,241 posts

141 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Still think this is a good looking thing. Of this type of vehicle, it's surely one of the more palatable ones.

thelostboy

4,700 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Interesting, so I guess Jaguar has to wait until Land Rover launches the updated Velar before a new F Pace comes. And does that mean the Velar will be electric only a result?

The facelift F Pace is a nice thing. The original's interior feels very cheap compared to a Rangie, but the facelift was like a different car - and this one looks even better.

I have been passenger in a (now previous gen) RR Sport hybrid and was astonished how well it shifted.

Zetec-S

6,929 posts

123 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Really like this, probably the best looking SUV out there, but unfortunately more than I'm prepared to spend.

The test driver

1,270 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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GTEYE said:
but I’d never buy a JLR product until there’s concrete proof that they are more reliable. Sadly everyone I’ve known with one has had at least one story of horror, bought back cars etc.

Edited by GTEYE on Wednesday 14th December 05:46
I'd never buy one especially after all the trouble my Aunties neighbours, Sisters pet pigeon had with theirs hehe

WayOutWest

1,247 posts

88 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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I'm trying to see the point of these lame duck hybrids. I guess if you have a pathological hatred of diesels but want decent mpg, want to beat range anxiety, and need at least some towing ability then it makes some degree of sense.
I'm sure it will fit some peoples usage patterns of short commute between dystopian urban council checkpoint zones under electric, yet give stress free longer journeys. But they will likely be a historic anomoly in production span unless the government backtracks on the EV drive.

JLR need to get their skates on with pure EVs. If you look at Jeep they have that Avenger EV, maybe JLR could do a fractionally bigger version of that - call it the Freelander or mini Defender depending on the exact design.
With a price pitched slightly below the Evoque and Disco Sport, and more boxy utilitarian styling, inside and out. Yet another mini SUV derivative soft roader, but this is what the public seem to want. Would sell like hotcakes with the right design.

The renderings of the 2024 Discovery Sport do look quite good though, and with full EV it could be a decent option if the range is there. While Jaguar does seem to have a big identity crisis, I think Landrover and Range Rover brands still have it all to play for if they get the powertrains right.





Edited by WayOutWest on Wednesday 14th December 10:55

Ray_Aber

959 posts

306 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Still to my eyes the best looking SUV by a country mile, only matched by the venerable Mazda CX-7 (in its time). I really hope that the reliability problems that bedevil this marque can be addressed; this car is gorgeous inside and out, and relatively light.

Not for me - as I don't need or want an SUV - but I admire it hugely.

ChrisCh86

1,132 posts

74 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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I really like the F-Pace, particularly with the V8. It's a relative 'bargain' considering the cost of the old Range Rover Sport SVR and just as fast.

I'm not sure that it's particularly socially acceptable these days, but it does sound great. biggrin


Shame I'm £80k short...

jl34

555 posts

267 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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One of the very few stylish SUV's i could see myself in, lovely. 40 miles range or 30 on a bad day would be plenty for 80% of the trips i do.

Neill-l9qpf

72 posts

108 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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These plug-in hybrids with realistic ranges make so much more sense for most drivers.

40 mile range would cover the majority of day to day commuting but with the flexibility of petrol power for longer runs.

But the premium they charge over a regular petrol model is shocking!

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

177 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Am I being stupid, or do you have to plug in for your 25miles electric, but no self charge or regen? Really?
Happy to be corrected.

nismo48

7,171 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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jl34 said:
One of the very few stylish SUV's i could see myself in, lovely. 40 miles range or 30 on a bad day would be plenty for 80% of the trips i do.
+1 wink

Jawls

789 posts

81 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Another vote for these being very good looking cars.

Wonder how low emission zones etc are going to handle ICE cars that have significant all-electric range?

stumpage

2,213 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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V8 FOU said:
Am I being stupid, or do you have to plug in for your 25miles electric, but no self charge or regen? Really?
Happy to be corrected.
Yes you plug in to get pure EV only. But you can self charge and regen also.

I can be EV only in town, get onto the motorway and the petrol takes over which if I want I can also set to recharge the battery so that when I leave the motorway again I can go back to EV only.

or...set the sat nav and the car will work out the best combination of EV-ICE for max efficiency.

or... just stick it in Hybrid mode and the car will work the same as a Prius.

S600BSB

8,507 posts

136 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Get an ipace instead - fantastic cars.

tberg

644 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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GTEYE,
With regard to the "horror stories" of JLR reliability, I have a 2010 XKR that has been my daily driver for the past ten years. I have 200,000 miles on her, and without question, this is the most reliable automobile I've ever owned among dozens in 56 years of driving. It's been tracked dozens of times, driven everyday in the horrible traffic of Los Angeles, is pulley and tuned to about 600hp, and just keeps on running. I would never hesitate buying a JLR product because of reliability because my experience has been stellar. I could never have asked for more out of a car than what I've gotten. My guess is you've never owned nor driven a Jaguar.


Edited by tberg on Saturday 17th December 01:24