What's the potential ramifications?
What's the potential ramifications?
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drdel

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477 posts

151 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Young daughter driving through the village. Single track road she comes upon up behind a very slow Driving School car. She starts to drive past but a car approaches so she brakes hard and returns to her side of road. The approaching car was a cop patrol car. She is panicking because they stopped further on and she thinks they could be writing up a ticket !

I've tried to suggest this is highly unlikely but what possible 'ticket ' could be given ?

BertBert

20,899 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Driving without due car would be the one. I like you would be surprised if they did it without stopping her. But she'll just have to wait and see methinks.

Silvanus

6,904 posts

46 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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A ticket for what?

Foss62

1,743 posts

88 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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As it was a single track road and the other car had (presumably) pulled into a passing place to let her go, then reacting quickly to pull in behind and letting the Police car come through in the other direction doesn’t sound too problematic. If she had gone through then neither her nor the Police car would have priority. At worst she is guilty of bad manners.

Dieci

4,875 posts

102 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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I suggest it was a single carriageway {each way} not a single track road .

LosingGrip

8,640 posts

182 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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drdel said:
Young daughter driving through the village. Single track road she comes upon up behind a very slow Driving School car. She starts to drive past but a car approaches so she brakes hard and returns to her side of road. The approaching car was a cop patrol car. She is panicking because they stopped further on and she thinks they could be writing up a ticket !

I've tried to suggest this is highly unlikely but what possible 'ticket ' could be given ?
Police here so hopefully this helps with her panicking.

If they wanted to give her a ticket, 99.9% of the time they would stop her there and then. It’s just easier. There could be a chance that they will send a NIP in the post, but it’s certainly not going to happen.

If she had carried out, it could be a due care offence, but the fact she abandoned the overtake because the situation changed is a good thing.

paintman

7,852 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Can't see a problem based on what you've told us either.

Golfgtimk28v

2,797 posts

42 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Over taking a learner in a 30 mph zone would be pushing her luck, maybe might give her a bit more patience next time.

Sebring440

3,085 posts

119 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Golfgtimk28v said:
Over taking a learner in a 30 mph zone would be pushing her luck, maybe might give her a bit more patience next time.
Where was "30 mph zone" mentioned?



mikecassie

660 posts

182 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Honestly, it sounds like your daughter took the correct action and can't see why there's any need to worry.

Plenty people will start an overtake and if the situation changes, rather than brake and pull back in they accelerate into a closing gap which is not always the best way to proceed.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

86 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Must have been a bit of shocker of an overtake attempt if the learner was going very slow and yet she still had to abort when a car came the other way.

Was she trying the manoeuvre on a bend?

halo34

2,890 posts

222 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Canon_Fodder said:
Must have been a bit of shocker of an overtake attempt if the learner was going very slow and yet she still had to abort when a car came the other way.

Was she trying the manoeuvre on a bend?
Whats that go to do with the question?

Yellow Lizud

2,792 posts

187 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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mikecassie said:
Plenty people will start an overtake and if the situation changes, rather than brake and pull back in they accelerate into a closing gap which is not always the best way to proceed.
Why would the situation change?

With very few exceptions, it's pretty binary, it's either safe to overtake or it's not. A decision which should be taken before starting to overtake.

drdel

Original Poster:

477 posts

151 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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BertBert said:
Driving without due car would be the one. I like you would be surprised if they did it without stopping her. But she'll just have to wait and see methinks.
Dc&a was what she was worried about.

She thought the Driving School car was stopping and had they forgotten to indicate. So started go pass but abhorted when the patrol car approached ducked back in. I'd have thought that was fine but the cops would only have seen a head-on view: hence her worry.

Just have to sit it out: so now she's worried that with the postal strike the time window may run out on replying to any NIP

djc206

13,403 posts

148 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Yellow Lizud said:
Why would the situation change?

With very few exceptions, it's pretty binary, it's either safe to overtake or it's not. A decision which should be taken before starting to overtake.
You’ve never made an incorrect decision before? It sounds like a very sensible reaction to a minor error of judgement.

agtlaw

7,289 posts

229 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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drdel said:
Young daughter driving through the village. Single track road she comes upon up behind a very slow Driving School car. She starts to drive past but a car approaches so she brakes hard and returns to her side of road. The approaching car was a cop patrol car. She is panicking because they stopped further on and she thinks they could be writing up a ticket !

I've tried to suggest this is highly unlikely but what possible 'ticket' could be given ?
Two potential offences here:

- Careless Driving (driving without due care and attention)
- Careless Driving (driving without reasonable consideration for other road users)


agtlaw

7,289 posts

229 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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BertBert said:
Driving without due car would be the one. I like you would be surprised if they did it without stopping her. But she'll just have to wait and see methinks.
One?

BertBert

20,899 posts

234 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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agtlaw said:
BertBert said:
Driving without due car would be the one. I like you would be surprised if they did it without stopping her. But she'll just have to wait and see methinks.
One?
No I meant car biggrin

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

86 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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halo34 said:
Canon_Fodder said:
Must have been a bit of shocker of an overtake attempt if the learner was going very slow and yet she still had to abort when a car came the other way.

Was she trying the manoeuvre on a bend?
Whats that go to do with the question?
Everything!! It sounds like a reckless overtake and so of course there may be - rightly - ramifications.


halo34

2,890 posts

222 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Canon_Fodder said:
Everything!! It sounds like a reckless overtake and so of course there may be - rightly - ramifications.
No - it was an overly dramatic flourish of a post based on what was likely a small error.

I rather suspect if that was the degree of seriousness they would of followed immediately and dealt with it on the spot.