RE: Riviera Blue Porsche 968 Club Sport for sale
RE: Riviera Blue Porsche 968 Club Sport for sale
Monday 19th December 2022

Riviera Blue Porsche 968 Club Sport for sale

Stripped-out Porsches have come a long way in 30 years, but time has only enhanced the 968's appeal


If it feels like this year has been dominated somewhat by a limited run, front-engined, rear-wheel drive sports car, one that’s revelatory to drive with about 240hp and costing £30,000, then look away now. Because here’s another. The Porsche 968 Club Sport feels like the only comparison the Toyota GR86 hasn’t faced yet (probably as pitching new cars against 30-year-old ones is silly), though it’s fascinating to note how similar they are on paper. Proof, if ever it was required, that certain formulas just work when it comes to fast cars. What was fast enough, exciting enough and engaging enough 30 years ago remains so now, because you really don’t need any more.

The Club Sport story is well known, Porsche’s early-90s line up desperately needing an injection of drama while the new generation - the Boxster and 996 - were in development. The air-cooled 911 was old by this point, and while the base 968 looked reasonably fresh, it shared more than was ideal with the 944. The Club Sport was a track car overhaul before they were cool, and in the way Porsche knew best: the 968 was gutted, doing away with rear seats and electric windows, lower and stiffer than a standard car. Many reviews raved about it, but others found the Club Sport a bit too hardcore. This was just as the E36 M3 had launched, remember, with its glorious straight six and lavish (by comparison) interior.

Nevertheless, the genius of the Club Sport has come to be appreciated over the years, along with many of the lightweight Porsches. Despite actually costing less than standard when new, prices have climbed in recent years to reflect the esteem in which they’re held. A 968 Sport is very good for less money, combining some of the CS upgrades with a bit more standard kit, but there’s still nothing quite like the real thing.

Especially when it’s Riviera Blue. Wheels colour matched to the body became something of a Club Sport trademark, and it undoubtedly still has impact today. How this must have looked in 1993! This 968 has a curious spec, in fact, going full race car with the colour and wheels but with four seats, a sunroof and an airbag, equipment initially deleted to save weight. You might say it only adds to the rarity, and there’ll be absolutely no qualms about the condition, having been serviced at a Porsche main dealer until 2021. For a car so overtly track focused, moreover, the 968 shows precious few signs of wear for its 100,000 miles.

The asking price for this one is £29,750, or within a thousand pounds of what it would have cost new 30 years ago. And £245 less than a standard GR86, or a bit more for an Electric Blue one that almost looks like a bit like Riviera. As the last of their respective eras - because the Macan doesn’t count as a front-engined, four-cylinder sports car - as well as being superb to drive, both Toyota and Porsche will have collectors climbing all over them for years to come. New versus old is never a fair comparison, of course, but it’s nice to see the classic recipes reimagined so well. Perhaps a 9686 feature isn’t such a bad idea, after all.

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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

195 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Love the 968, but would prefer the sport, never got these stripped down versions

jmcc500

679 posts

248 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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I had a red 968CS for a very short time about 10 years ago as I didn't gel with it (probably me rather than the car as everyone else seems to rave about them!). It was 2 seat spec with non-genuine but very similar to OE bucket seats. I ran a Citroen BX Diesel estate in parallel (don't suppose many others had that particular combination) and remember being amused that my 'lightweight' 2-seater Porsche was 300kg heavier than my 5 seat diesel Estate car manufactured in the same year biggrin

I much preferred the Cayman S and then 987 Spyder that followed a few years later - I think I would be trying to find the extra £10k or so to get another Spyder or a Cayman R if I was in the market for a rare, light (ish) weight Porsche.

o..

14 posts

258 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Such an iconic machine. Worth noting that these had fixed body coloured bucket seats which were pretty hard to get in and out of.

The Sport model they mentioned has an identical mechanical specification (dampers, springs, geo, powertrain, gearing, the lot) but has manual adjustable seats that are still lightweight but far more user friendly.


CedricN

855 posts

175 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Great fun cars, they were plentiful on track days and car meets a couple of years ago, not so much anymore. But there are some race cars still putting out some quick lap times. They do keep together very well for fast driving.

Though there must be very very few "real" club sports in the UK, with the Recaro seats etc. Was it some importers decision? Over here the more hardcore version wasnt that uncommon, many of them were modded for track day and racing cars though up until the prices starting to rise.

2Btoo

3,821 posts

233 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.

BJM1

32 posts

140 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Bought a renovated Sport a few years ago and love it. Not fast by modem standards but flows nicely and you feel very involved. Puts a smile on your face well before you reach the licence losing speeds modern get to all too quickly. The lack of air conditioning the only real downside.

S600BSB

8,505 posts

136 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Don't like the colour.

satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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2Btoo said:
Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.
A quick google suggests it was (sunroof)

https://auctions.manorparkclassics.com/auction/lot...

Maybe an option.

V12GT

671 posts

120 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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satfinal said:
2Btoo said:
Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.
A quick google suggests it was

https://auctions.manorparkclassics.com/auction/lot...

Maybe an option.
Link goes to a different registration black car, not this.

ETA: or do you mean that the sunroof on the auction one shows that this could be a CS too?

matlotus

128 posts

126 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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A careful read of that ad description implies it’s not a Club Sport. It’s a 968 optioned with CS pack.

squirdan

1,159 posts

177 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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I owned a 968 CS a few years back and I have never seen one with that ugly airbag steering wheel

there are certain ways to tell a genuine CS (V5 doesn't help) and one of those is the rear hatch keyhole should be blanked off, and how many switches on the centre console below the radio.

Sunroof was definitely an option on a CS though

This car is confusing though as I thought all Sports came with electric windows and this clearly has wind up windows, but central locking which a CS is not meant to have, so its a bit of a mystery.

What is clear though is it's not a desirable spec and like the debate that goes on now with Cayman R about bucket seats...most people in the market for one of these probably want the Recaro's I would think

Collecting Cars is a good pointer for what the right price is...the range this year is £10-45k; sports and clubsports. See purple car with similar mileage that sold for £20k ish...

Edited by squirdan on Monday 19th December 14:04

GTRene

22,662 posts

254 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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2Btoo said:
Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.
Indeed does not look like it and only the stickers are not worth it lol.

it has to look more like this example.

http://programming.wmlcloud.com/multimedia/24578.a...

ChevronB19

9,190 posts

193 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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2Btoo said:
Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.
Wrong steering wheel as well, although it does have manual windows. Odd.

Edited by ChevronB19 on Monday 19th December 14:43

Oakman

369 posts

188 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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matlotus said:
A careful read of that ad description implies it’s not a Club Sport. It’s a 968 optioned with CS pack.
Hi Mat,

I just re read the ad, if we count the 2 headlines they say it’s a Club Sport four times, twice in their fuller description of the car.

The rule of Caveat Emptor to be applied before a purchase I would think (a check with Porsche themselves based on its chassis number should suffice).

beer


anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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2Btoo said:
Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.
Looks more Sport spec indeed. But most real Clubsports did have sunroof - strangely.

ChevronB19

9,190 posts

193 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Discombobulate said:
2Btoo said:
Erm, are we sure that that is a Club Sport? Wrong seats (should be hard-backed), rear seats and a sunroof bodyshell?

I'd be fairly confident that the only bit of that car that's a Club Sport is the stickers down the side and the body coloured wheels. Very happy to be proved wrong and all that.
Looks more Sport spec indeed. But most real Clubsports did have sunroof - strangely.
Agree, it certainly seems to be a sport, but for some reason with manual windows?

Ad does seem a bit ‘loose’ with its description, it would imply it’s a genuine Clubsport on first and second look.

928 GTS

587 posts

125 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Real Club Sport = VIN is in certain set. UK Sport is in same VIN sets so they have to be separated by option codes.

Year Chassis Numbers Total
1993 WPOZZZ96ZPS815061 - 815856
1994 WPOZZZ96ZRS815061 - 815536
1995 WPOZZZ96ZSS815061 - 815531
Total 1743

Bencolem

1,191 posts

269 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Manual windows but an electric sunroof? Weird.

jay-kay-em

350 posts

234 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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The option list was fair game and if you wanted to up-spec a CS you could. Airbags, the rubbing strips, sunroof, comfort seats all possible plus much more.

Obviously, the logic behind that gets a bit strange, but someone thought they were doing the right thing in 1994.

The only way you can tell a genuine CS is via the build sheet and checking all the above option codes.

There will be many people saying it isn't a CS because X, Y and Z. In ethos they may have a point, but not on paper if the build sheet corresponds.


skylarking808

1,242 posts

116 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Prefer my Club sports in white with red details, but the blue is a good choice.

Never driven one, but had to put 968 Cup 1 copy wheels on my 944 when I had it in th 90's.