Four car garage - for a 2+2 family
Four car garage - for a 2+2 family
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MichalPH

Original Poster:

94 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Gentelmen, I need Your advice.

I'm building a house with an actual 4 car garage. We are 2+2 family with kids who will be 3 and 8 by the time we finish (estimated Dec 2023). We currently have 3 cars: Mk2 MX5 track car that haven't seen much use in years but has sentimental value and needs to stay, GR Yaris that is a barely used fun car, and a C4 Picasso that is a family bus and my daily driver. As good as it is it should be replaced as I fear a major failure (its the 1.2 Puretech and 7 years old). Wife currently walks to work, but will have to get a daily when we move to the house. Both our commutes will be rather short and in city traffic - 2 miles one way for myself and 3 miles for my wife (I know, we should get bikes but we'll have to ferry children and we get proper winters).

What I was thinking:
1: Something mildly fun for myself
2: VW Touran for my wife
3: GR Yaris
4: MX5

Unfortunatelly, my wife doesn't really like the idea of driving Touran around town and would rather have a Captur or similar... Thats leaves me with the "big" car again...

Any ideas?

TIA.

Puzzles

3,491 posts

139 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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911?

a7x88

795 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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You have the Yaris and MX5 as “fun cars” - why not get the Touran and captur as the family cars. If you want to drive something “fun” instead of the Touran just take the Yaris?

b14

1,284 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Surely you want at least one EV commuting car in there, or at least a PHEV that can do short trips on electric and longer trips on petrol?

I'd say faster estate (C63 / 340i), PHEV, GR Yaris and MX5

wong

1,445 posts

244 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Use the Yaris as your "daily".

VS02

2,411 posts

88 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Golf GTE/BMW 330e (not biased), GR Yaris, MX-5, Peugeot e-2008/Tesla Model Y/Kia eNIRO

EV is the way to go for a commuter. PHEV for a fun daily. ICE for something truly special/ weekend blaster - GR yaris and MX5. My choice would be the Model Y for the commuter and the Golf Gte for the daily

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Macron

13,157 posts

194 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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MichalPH said:
Gentelmen, I need Your advice.
Are only men allowed to give you advice?

ATM

21,220 posts

247 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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wong said:
Use the Yaris as your "daily".
This

ZX10R NIN

30,410 posts

153 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Get a decent family sized car for yourself & get your wife the Kaptur, then use the GR Yaris more.

Xcore

1,490 posts

118 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Surely the Yaris is the perfect daily/fun car? Bin off the 4th car and get a motorbike

colin86

305 posts

142 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Keep the mx5
Use the Yaris gr as your daily
Get the wife whatever car she wants

Zarco

20,803 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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wong said:
Use the Yaris as your "daily".
This all day long.

MichalPH

Original Poster:

94 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Gentelman (and ladies!) thank You for your suggestions.

Regarding EVs, we even ordered the eNiro but then realised that even with free electricity we would have to cover ~136K miles to recoup the difference in price between the Niro and something like the Catpur which is exactly half the price of the KIA. That's just not going to happen as the car will cover 10K/year max. Not to mention the Captur can be ordered with LPG from factory. I know EV's are the future, but not in their current form.

Regarding hybrids/PHEVS, there is something that I think should be publicised more. We are beeing told they are ultra efficint in city driving - that may be true, but not for the short distances or cold temperatures. I rented a RAV4 hybrid for a weekend recently and in current temperatures (around 0*C) no matter what the battery charge the ICE will start up, with the first kilometre consumption beeing ~20L/100km (~14 UK mpg). If the whole journey is 3km/2miles long the economy goes to hell, especially if you want to heat your car/defrost the windows which will also keep the engine running even while stationary. I managed to beat my Picasso but by only 1L/100km. So, not optimal for my specific use.

Regarding daily driving a GR Yaris... As I plan to keep the car indefinitely, I want to limit the mileage I do and see start/stop traffic as a waste of a good car smile

Michal

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,132 posts

130 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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What about something like a used EV such as a Leaf or Zoe for the boring commute.

Crumpet

5,283 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th December 2022
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colin86 said:
Keep the mx5
Use the Yaris gr as your daily
Get the wife whatever car she wants
Probably this. But maybe drop the Yaris.

It pains me to say it, but it’s really quite nice to be able to fit the kids in the ‘fun’ car, even if it’s just to liven up the drive back from dropping them at school. It’s also really quite nice for the fun car to be able to do the longer family trips with luggage and all the gear.

For that reason I’d drop the Yaris as it’s a bit too niche when you’re a family man. I’d replace that with something performance oriented and combine it with your daily with something like an Alfa Stelvio Quad or maybe an F-Pace SVR. Maybe get some old 4x4 st-heap for crap winter days.

So:

1. Stelvio Quadrifoglio
2. Whatever the missus wants.
3. Old Freelander 2 or similar.
4. MX5.

I’m slightly biased as I run an F-Pace SVR and a Freelander 2 for my wife and for crap winter days. I honestly don’t want for much more other than something that could be taken on track - like an MX5 or GR Yaris!

fflump

3,367 posts

66 months

Wednesday 28th December 2022
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Ah a 2+2 family... What a world of automotive opportunities you have....primary school runs in your DB9 or 911, off to St Moritz in the FF for a week in the powder. Daily the Giulia QF.....

Goes without saying I'd die for any of my 3 children but 2 kids is perfect for a PH.


MichalPH

Original Poster:

94 posts

152 months

Wednesday 28th December 2022
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If only I could afford it! The house will soak up all my income I'm afraid smile But you are right, even with limited budget there are so many choices my head hurts smile

Magnum 475

4,104 posts

160 months

Wednesday 28th December 2022
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The only thing I can add is that the Touran needs a huge amount space behind it to open the tailgate. If, like me, you like to reverse into parking spaces, this can be a real problem. Mrs Magnum ruled out the Touran for precisely this reason.

Much as it’s maligned on here, the 220i “Grand Tourer” is a very practical family bus - ours is now 7 years old and still going very well.

The Cardinal

1,378 posts

280 months

Wednesday 28th December 2022
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Consider something smaller than a Touran / Picasso for your local use.

We have a VW Transporter, Audi RS3 and Skoda Fabia. The latter two aren't big by modern standards but are absolutely fine for carrying our pair of kids, who are older than yours.

ATM

21,220 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th December 2022
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A Van is a good shout. I have been using mine a bit more recently. If it had more seats and was auto I'd be quite smitten. Maybe my next Van will be my go to Vehicle. Where I live fun just doesn't seem to happen. So then size wins. But when the weather picks up I'll need to keep the cars in rotation as they dont like sitting around un-loved.