Fuse 22 Repercussions

[Sir.Rothschild]

Any known long-term repercussions to removing the fuse 22 (exhaust valve)?

[CSK1]

None save maybe that it can cause the valves to stick open permanently. Some advise to let the mechanism do its job from time to time to prevent this.
Other problem is ear related, especially with convertibles but the sound is well worth the sacrifice!
My fuse has been permanently taken out for the last 7 years or so. No regrets and I have no idea if they’re stuck in the open position… and really don’t care!

[maccavvy]

mine has a switch fitted. available very cheap . so ideal for quiet motorway cruising or not annoying the neighbours when leaving the estate, keeps it from potential seize too

[Simpo Two]

maccavvy said:

mine has a switch fitted. available very cheap . so ideal for quiet motorway cruising or not annoying the neighbours when leaving the estate, keeps it from potential seize too

I have this gadget too; very easy to fit and use. https://www.cccharger.co.uk/

[maccavvy]

Simpo Two said:

I have this gadget too; very easy to fit and use. https://www.cccharger.co.uk/

mine is a simple rocker switch . no remote or anything

[LTP]

Sir.Rothschild said:

Any known long-term repercussions to removing the fuse 22 (exhaust valve)?

In addition to the above, I have the CCharger remote and if I leave the valves open at motorway speeds I get an exhaust drone in the cabin that isn't there when the valves are allowed to operate normally.

[Noogly]

maccavvy said:

mine is a simple rocker switch . no remote or anything

I also have a little rocker switch on the steering column, fitted by the dealer when I got the car. Very neat job.
The valves probably will stick if they don't get used occasionally.

[Jon39]

Simpo Two said:

maccavvy said:

mine has a switch fitted. available very cheap . so ideal for quiet motorway cruising or not annoying the neighbours when leaving the estate, keeps it from potential seize too

I have this gadget too; very easy to fit and use. https://www.cccharger.co.uk/

My understanding is that the remote gadget just operates the fuse, as if it was being manually removed and reinserted.
ie. OEM, or Always Open.

The wired switch arrangement provides an additional option;
ie. Always Closed.

Helpful for any leaving early occasions, if nearby neighbours might still be sleeping.

Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 28th December 11:50

[Noogly]

Jon39 said:

My understanding is that the remote gadget just operates the fuse, as if it was being manually removed and reinserted.
ie. OEM, or Always Open.

The wired switch arrangement provides an additional option;
ie. Always Closed.

Helpful for any leaving early occasions, if nearby neighbours might still be sleeping.

Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 28th December 11:50

You can get different switches. Mine is a 2 position (OEM or always open), I think Bamford Rose offer a 3 position switch.

[CSK1]

Jon39 said:

Helpful for any leaving early occasions, if nearby neighbours might still be sleeping.

I have no nearby neighbours!

[Simpo Two]

Jon39 said:

My understanding is that the remote gadget just operates the fuse, as if it was being manually removed and reinserted.
ie. OEM, or Always Open.

The wired switch arrangement provides an additional option;
ie. Always Closed.

Helpful for any leaving early occasions, if nearby neighbours might still be sleeping.

No, unless you buy the 'memory' version it defaults to closed. I wasn't going to rip up my car from boot to dashboard to fit a wire; a wireless remote is perfect

[Sebastian Tombs]

I bought the remote switch. I even trained my garage door opener to operate it.

I had it on the car for three years.
I sold the car and removed it from the fuse box. The car suddenly sounded much better and louder. Yes, you’ve guessed it. The switch had never worked and it had been on standard operation mode all that time!

[Greathey]

JayEmm on Cars claims removing the fuse considerably increases fuel consumption

[AdamV12V]

Greathey said:

JayEmm on Cars claims removing the fuse considerably increases fuel consumption

Utter bks - i only watched one or two of his vids before deciding he was a baffoon.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 30th December 03:27

[AstonV]

Greathey said:

JayEmm on Cars claims removing the fuse considerably increases fuel consumption

[Dewi 2]

Simpo Two said:

No, unless you buy the 'memory' version it defaults to closed. I wasn't going to rip up my car from boot to dashboard to fit a wire; a wireless remote is perfect

I originally had the well known remote, which controlled the operation of the fuse.
Cannot understand how a 'memory' version can permanently close the valves. If it still only controls the fuse, it would have to be defaulting OEM. That leaves the valves open at startup and below about 1,500 rpm.

My car had a switch fitted, when an exhaust upgrade was done.
No need to rip up a car from boot to dashboard. The switch does not control the fuse.
The switch is very easy ti reach, but is completely hidden to the left of yiur knees.
I understand it is simply connected to wiring in the centre tunnel, near to the gear lever position.
My early starts are very rare and neighbours not close, so the switch remains in always open position, except on motorways where closed or OEM would close the valves.

To be able to completely close the valves before startup, must be a very helpful feature for some owners in particular curcumstances.

[geresey]

AdamV12V said:

Greathey said:

JayEmm on Cars claims removing the fuse considerably increases fuel consumption

Utter bks - i only watched one or two of his vids before deciding he was a baffoon.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 30th December 03:27

Never seen it but maybe it was a reference to being inclined to press the loud pedal more often! Certainly is the case with mine….

Pretty sure the remote switch I have just opens the valves at lower rpm once underway. Sounds exactly the same at startup in either mode

Edited by geresey on Friday 30th December 09:01

[Tin Hat]

AdamV12V said:

Greathey said:

JayEmm on Cars claims removing the fuse considerably increases fuel consumption

Utter bks - i only watched one or two of his vids before deciding he was a baffoon.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 30th December 03:27

Couldn’t agree more, way too eager to be a critique, generally a peddler of mass negativity. I recall him using his ‘status’ to rant about poor customer service at a McLaren dealer for one of his buddies, plenty of teeth sucking - it was the last vid of his that I had the energy to endure.

[Simpo Two]

Dewi 2 said:

I originally had the well known remote, which controlled the operation of the fuse.
Cannot understand how a 'memory' version can permanently close the valves. If it still only controls the fuse, it would have to be defaulting OEM. That leaves the valves open at startup and below about 1,500 rpm.

My car had a switch fitted, when an exhaust upgrade was done.
No need to rip up a car from boot to dashboard. The switch does not control the fuse.
The switch is very easy ti reach, but is completely hidden to the left of yiur knees.
I understand it is simply connected to wiring in the centre tunnel, near to the gear lever position.
My early starts are very rare and neighbours not close, so the switch remains in always open position, except on motorways where closed or OEM would close the valves.

To be able to completely close the valves before startup, must be a very helpful feature for some owners in particular curcumstances

All the device does is switch a fuse in or out remotely. If it's in the 'quiet' position, which it is on start-up, the car behaves as normal. If you select the 'loud' position, it's loud all the time. The version with the memory just keeps it how it was last time you used it.

I have no desire to investigate the wiring in the central tunnel...!

[ecs0set]

Sebastian Tombs said:

I bought the remote switch. I even trained my garage door opener to operate it.

Interesting! Struggling to fit both remote for garage door and remote for ccharger in the front "ashtray". Was it an aftermarket garage door opener or the factory one in the rear view mirror?