Slow puncture dilemma
Discussion
My wife’s kuga has picked up a slow puncture which has turned out to be a staple about 20mm from the edge of the sidewall. Tyre place won’t fix it which is fair enough but the car has got Michelin crossclimate + all round with 6mm-ish of tread.
Sod’s Law that now the crossclimates + has been discontinued of which a pair would have done. Crossclimate 2’s were quoted at £180 a corner and the tyre geek in me would want them all matching.
This leads on to my thought, the staple is less than 1mm x2 and I’m pumping the tyre up about once every 5 days (from around 27psi to 40) so it’s not losing a lot of air. How good is the green slime stuff? The car is only travelling locally, if it wasn’t losing air I wouldn’t know about the staple and I wouldn’t class it as dangerous.
Bad idea?
Sod’s Law that now the crossclimates + has been discontinued of which a pair would have done. Crossclimate 2’s were quoted at £180 a corner and the tyre geek in me would want them all matching.
This leads on to my thought, the staple is less than 1mm x2 and I’m pumping the tyre up about once every 5 days (from around 27psi to 40) so it’s not losing a lot of air. How good is the green slime stuff? The car is only travelling locally, if it wasn’t losing air I wouldn’t know about the staple and I wouldn’t class it as dangerous.
Bad idea?
One of my trailer wheels picked up a piece of swarf recently. The summit of the M62 was no place to change a wheel, so out with the Green Goo. But I knew it wasn't going to succeed for long when it started to stream out past the metal. Just made it to Ferrybridge Services.
The swarf was bit bigger than a staple, and may have lacerated the tyre wall, when a staple might leave a perforation. Worth a try? But the Green Goo can always says that it's a temporary repair, and that the tyre must be definitively repaired ASAP.
John
The swarf was bit bigger than a staple, and may have lacerated the tyre wall, when a staple might leave a perforation. Worth a try? But the Green Goo can always says that it's a temporary repair, and that the tyre must be definitively repaired ASAP.
John
Tyre plug kit for around a tenner from Maison de Bezos:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-STRI...
Safe? Thousands of YouTubers will tell you that you will die a fiery death, thousands will tell you they are safe. I worked for a Logistics co, who would routinely plug tyres intending to repair later, the repairs were forgotten and lasted the life of the tyres. You takes your picks.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-STRI...
Safe? Thousands of YouTubers will tell you that you will die a fiery death, thousands will tell you they are safe. I worked for a Logistics co, who would routinely plug tyres intending to repair later, the repairs were forgotten and lasted the life of the tyres. You takes your picks.
vikingaero said:
Tyre plug kit for around a tenner from Maison de Bezos:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-STRI...
Safe? Thousands of YouTubers will tell you that you will die a fiery death, thousands will tell you they are safe. I worked for a Logistics co, who would routinely plug tyres intending to repair later, the repairs were forgotten and lasted the life of the tyres. You takes your picks.
Used plugs of that style many times. And closer to the sidewall than really should have been....and never had an issue.https://www.amazon.co.uk/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-STRI...
Safe? Thousands of YouTubers will tell you that you will die a fiery death, thousands will tell you they are safe. I worked for a Logistics co, who would routinely plug tyres intending to repair later, the repairs were forgotten and lasted the life of the tyres. You takes your picks.
Worst was a staple as you say, U shaped staple to make matters worse, so two holes close beside each other. It wasn't nice having to put the plugs in that location and so close beside each other but it worked fine and I ran it like that for a few thousand months before changing the tyre.
It was still in the tread block though. I would definitely not repair anything in the sidewall.
If you're 20mm in, and do not drive like a crazed lunatic all the time. Plug it.
ONLY if the tyre has never been driven flat.
If I'm doing any bigger journeys. I always keep the kit and a tyre inflator with me. Usually a repair can be effected within 60 seconds without removing the wheel
https://www.devon4x4.com/arb-speedy-seal-tyre-repa...
I'd try other places for a 2nd opinion,
I had a slow puncture on one of my winter tyres, it would lose about 10psi in 2 weeks. 3 of the big chain tyres places wouldn't touch it for some reason - they could get me a replacement tyre at £170 next day though...
Found a local indie guy who fixed it no problem.
I had a slow puncture on one of my winter tyres, it would lose about 10psi in 2 weeks. 3 of the big chain tyres places wouldn't touch it for some reason - they could get me a replacement tyre at £170 next day though...
Found a local indie guy who fixed it no problem.
This is what I’m up against, a lot closer to the sidewall than I thought.
I went to Halfords today and got this and stuck it in
https://www.halfords.com/tools/garage-equipment/br...
Time will tell whether is works and whether it was a good idea or not. I have found someone on Facebook market place selling 2no crossclimate + tyres with 6mm on for £150 fitted which would give me a good spare to keep.
Failing that it’s either 2no crossclimate 2’s or 4no all seasons of a different brand unless it’s not too bad to mix brands on each axle?
I went to Halfords today and got this and stuck it in
https://www.halfords.com/tools/garage-equipment/br...
Time will tell whether is works and whether it was a good idea or not. I have found someone on Facebook market place selling 2no crossclimate + tyres with 6mm on for £150 fitted which would give me a good spare to keep.
Failing that it’s either 2no crossclimate 2’s or 4no all seasons of a different brand unless it’s not too bad to mix brands on each axle?
I wouldn’t change all 4, just the 2 on the same axle - then sell the good one you remove perhaps?
The tyre manufacturer tech team may be able to confirm if it is ok to mix with the newer cross climate that replaces it.
I have used green slime in motorbikes (off road) and push bikes and it is brilliant.
I wouldn’t just keep pumping up unless you are very certain not to miss it as a low pressure tyre overheats the side wall and can fall apart / blow out.
The tyre manufacturer tech team may be able to confirm if it is ok to mix with the newer cross climate that replaces it.
I have used green slime in motorbikes (off road) and push bikes and it is brilliant.
I wouldn’t just keep pumping up unless you are very certain not to miss it as a low pressure tyre overheats the side wall and can fall apart / blow out.
Gtom said:
This is what I’m up against, a lot closer to the sidewall than I thought.
I went to Halfords today and got this and stuck it in
https://www.halfords.com/tools/garage-equipment/br...
Time will tell whether is works and whether it was a good idea or not. I have found someone on Facebook market place selling 2no crossclimate + tyres with 6mm on for £150 fitted which would give me a good spare to keep.
Failing that it’s either 2no crossclimate 2’s or 4no all seasons of a different brand unless it’s not too bad to mix brands on each axle?
That's roughly were I plugged mine in the van with the U shaped pin, 2 holes. Sucks to have happened, but it worked fine.I went to Halfords today and got this and stuck it in
https://www.halfords.com/tools/garage-equipment/br...
Time will tell whether is works and whether it was a good idea or not. I have found someone on Facebook market place selling 2no crossclimate + tyres with 6mm on for £150 fitted which would give me a good spare to keep.
Failing that it’s either 2no crossclimate 2’s or 4no all seasons of a different brand unless it’s not too bad to mix brands on each axle?
If it was a pin or a screw that didn't get noticed, you could drive on it for weeks or months before it went flat. So is a plug that seals the hole any worse ?
The structure of the tyre will not be affected by something so small.
vikingaero said:
Tyre plug kit for around a tenner from Maison de Bezos:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-STRI...
Safe? Thousands of YouTubers will tell you that you will die a fiery death, thousands will tell you they are safe. I worked for a Logistics co, who would routinely plug tyres intending to repair later, the repairs were forgotten and lasted the life of the tyres. You takes your picks.
I would rather take my chance with the tyre sealent. The reason why garages won't (well we don't) is because you cannot get the patch on a flat section and as it curves there is a chance it may fail at some point.https://www.amazon.co.uk/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-STRI...
Safe? Thousands of YouTubers will tell you that you will die a fiery death, thousands will tell you they are safe. I worked for a Logistics co, who would routinely plug tyres intending to repair later, the repairs were forgotten and lasted the life of the tyres. You takes your picks.
stevemcs said:
I would rather take my chance with the tyre sealent. The reason why garages won't (well we don't) is because you cannot get the patch on a flat section and as it curves there is a chance it may fail at some point.
Yup, sealant gunk or proper vulcanised repair.BUT, if you use sealant make sure you check it won't wreck your tyre pressure sensors before you start....
I always change my tyres if there is any doubt.
Aside from the potential safety issue, I would hate to keep worrying is this working, of having to monitor it for the sake of a new tyre or pair of tyres.
If I had enough space, I would go with one of the options you suggested, a new pair of cross climate 2’s across the same axle and keep the good crossclimate as a spare.
Running a tyre with low psi really works them out, because of all the extra flexing they have to do, especially at speed and if your car is loaded. You risk a blow out and the car behaving strangely during emergency manouvers. Something to bear in mind, especially if you do decide to embark on a longer motorway journey.
Aside from the potential safety issue, I would hate to keep worrying is this working, of having to monitor it for the sake of a new tyre or pair of tyres.
If I had enough space, I would go with one of the options you suggested, a new pair of cross climate 2’s across the same axle and keep the good crossclimate as a spare.
Running a tyre with low psi really works them out, because of all the extra flexing they have to do, especially at speed and if your car is loaded. You risk a blow out and the car behaving strangely during emergency manouvers. Something to bear in mind, especially if you do decide to embark on a longer motorway journey.
Edited by wyson on Saturday 31st December 10:51
wyson said:
I always change my tyres if there is any doubt.
Aside from the potential safety issue, I would hate to keep worrying is this working, of having to monitor it for the sake of a new tyre or pair of tyres.
If I had enough space, I would go with one of the options you suggested, a new pair of cross climate 2’s across the same axle and keep the good crossclimate as a spare.
Running a tyre with low psi really works them out, because of all the extra flexing they have to do, especially at speed and if your car is loaded. You risk a blow out and the car behaving strangely during emergency manouvers. Something to bear in mind, especially if you do decide to embark on a longer motorway journey.
Pretty much what I said 7 posts up….glad we are in agreement and therefore we are right.Aside from the potential safety issue, I would hate to keep worrying is this working, of having to monitor it for the sake of a new tyre or pair of tyres.
If I had enough space, I would go with one of the options you suggested, a new pair of cross climate 2’s across the same axle and keep the good crossclimate as a spare.
Running a tyre with low psi really works them out, because of all the extra flexing they have to do, especially at speed and if your car is loaded. You risk a blow out and the car behaving strangely during emergency manouvers. Something to bear in mind, especially if you do decide to embark on a longer motorway journey.
Edited by wyson on Saturday 31st December 10:51
stevemcs said:
I would rather take my chance with the tyre sealent. The reason why garages won't (well we don't) is because you cannot get the patch on a flat section and as it curves there is a chance it may fail at some point.
I wouldn't, sealant goo inside is s
te and likely less chance of doing anything nearer the edges.Plug will work fine.
wyson said:
I always change my tyres if there is any doubt.
Aside from the potential safety issue, I would hate to keep worrying is this working, of having to monitor it for the sake of a new tyre or pair of tyres.
If I had enough space, I would go with one of the options you suggested, a new pair of cross climate 2’s across the same axle and keep the good crossclimate as a spare.
Running a tyre with low psi really works them out, because of all the extra flexing they have to do, especially at speed and if your car is loaded. You risk a blow out and the car behaving strangely during emergency manouvers. Something to bear in mind, especially if you do decide to embark on a longer motorway journey.
Not a lot of doubt in this case.Aside from the potential safety issue, I would hate to keep worrying is this working, of having to monitor it for the sake of a new tyre or pair of tyres.
If I had enough space, I would go with one of the options you suggested, a new pair of cross climate 2’s across the same axle and keep the good crossclimate as a spare.
Running a tyre with low psi really works them out, because of all the extra flexing they have to do, especially at speed and if your car is loaded. You risk a blow out and the car behaving strangely during emergency manouvers. Something to bear in mind, especially if you do decide to embark on a longer motorway journey.
Edited by wyson on Saturday 31st December 10:51
If it is the staple a plug will fix it.
But always yes, hard to beat a new tyre....but is it really necessary ? Not always
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