111mph in a 50 limit - Short Ban

[bad company]

Surely the ban should have been longer for this policeman?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590315/...

[Funk]

One rule for thee...

Sounds like he's fked his career though.

[FilH]

And the old "ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £154"


Who were the victims in this crime?

[Funk]

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

[LosingGrip]

Funk said:

One rule for thee...

Sounds like he's fked his career though.

I’m struggling to see what the one comment is about…surely that would be if whoever stopped him let him on his way without dealing with it?

The courts are separate to the police. We often get harsher punishments than a member of the public (and rightly so).

And his job could be at risk.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...

Ban is in the middle of the guidelines. Fine will be income based so hard to comment on that.

[Bonefish Blues]

FilH said:

And the old "ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £154"


Who were the victims in this crime?

Ordinary stupid people who are now deemed no longer fit to wear the stupid badge because he's raised the stupid bar to new heights, I guess?

[vonhosen]

Funk said:

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

Why?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...

[Dingu]

FilH said:

And the old "ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £154"


Who were the victims in this crime?

If you use google you’ll quickly see what the surcharge is used for. It is a good thing in general and makes more sense to apply blanket that start quibbling over what is and isn’t victimless.

[Dogwatch]

Given that the roads in East Sussex are generally pretty cr*p, there are no motorways in the County and a dual carriageway is a) rare and b) short, I'm surprised he managed to get much above 60, let alone into treble figures.

[Drl22]

LosingGrip said:

I’m struggling to see what the one comment is about…surely that would be if whoever stopped him let him on his way without dealing with it?

The courts are separate to the police. We often get harsher punishments than a member of the public (and rightly so).

And his job could be at risk.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...

Ban is in the middle of the guidelines. Fine will be income based so hard to comment on that.

Quite. I’m not sure the sentencing guidelines are fair though. I was in the same band for 76 in a 50 which is clearly far less dangerous than 111 in a 50.

[Draxindustries1]

vonhosen said:

Funk said:

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

Why?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...

Of course it's dangerous. A momentary lapse of concentration/ blowout, other type of failure could cause huge damage /death at that speed. Fine if its just the driver killed but doubt relatives of a family wiped out by a bellend doing this kind of speed would think anything else other than it being dangerous...

[Nibbles_bits]

FilH said:

And the old "ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £154"


Who were the victims in this crime?

Rex

Also - not a crime

[vonhosen]

Draxindustries1 said:

vonhosen said:

Funk said:

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

Why?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...

Of course it's dangerous. A momentary lapse of concentration/ blowout, other type of failure could cause huge damage /death at that speed. Fine if its just the driver killed but doubt relatives of a family wiped out by a bellend doing this kind of speed would think anything else other than it being dangerous...

Well you might consider it dangerous personally, but that doesn't make it dangerous driving in law.
Dangerous in law is what is of concern & potentially affects all of us, not individual people's view on what amounts to dangerous.

[Nibbles_bits]

Draxindustries1 said:

vonhosen said:

Funk said:

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

Why?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...

Of course it's dangerous. A momentary lapse of concentration/ blowout, other type of failure could cause huge damage /death at that speed. Fine if its just the driver killed but doubt relatives of a family wiped out by a bellend doing this kind of speed would think anything else other than it being dangerous...

By that logic, isn't every case of speeding also 'careless' or 'dangerous'?

[CarCrazyDad]

bad company said:

Surely the ban should have been longer for this policeman?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590315/...

What are comparable sentences for people who are say, 25 , and have a modified / enthusiast car?


The police are only policing speed anyway. They don't care about anything else.

IMO as an officer you should be held to higher standards.
He should have a longer ban. He shouldn't lose his job but he should certainly be given a royal bking.

[Nibbles_bits]

CarCrazyDad said:

bad company said:

Surely the ban should have been longer for this policeman?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590315/...

What are comparable sentences for people who are say, 25 , and have a modified / enthusiast car?


The police are only policing speed anyway. They don't care about anything else.

IMO as an officer you should be held to higher standards.
He should have a longer ban. He shouldn't lose his job but he should certainly be given a royal bking.

Are all 87500 prisoners in for speeding??

[bad company]

Draxindustries1 said:

Of course it's dangerous. A momentary lapse of concentration/ blowout, other type of failure could cause huge damage /death at that speed. Fine if its just the driver killed but doubt relatives of a family wiped out by a bellend doing this kind of speed would think anything else other than it being dangerous...

All those factors apply on autobahns where 111 is not considered a great speed. Having said that I’m not familiar with the road where this occurred.

[Yex GTR]

I know the road in question very well and can see why it was not classified as dangerous driving. Vision is generally excellent, road is very wide although not marked as a DC apart from the uphill bit leading to the lights at the Hastings end from memory and if traffic is light it is very easy to hit 90+ if you are not paying attention.

I agree the officer should be hit harder due to his status but not losing his license for longer is understandable.

[surveyor_101]

Funk said:

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

Not if your a brother from the lodge, this man is a good man etc

[NMNeil]

Draxindustries1 said:

vonhosen said:

Funk said:

I'm surprised this wasn't prosecuted as dangerous driving rather than just 'speeding'.

Why?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/not-dangerou...

Of course it's dangerous. A momentary lapse of concentration/ blowout, other type of failure could cause huge damage /death at that speed. Fine if its just the driver killed but doubt relatives of a family wiped out by a bellend doing this kind of speed would think anything else other than it being dangerous...

Tell that to all the PH members who openly boast of driving on the public roads at triple digit speeds.