Tyre durability?

[carreauchompeur]

Just reaching the 2-3mm point with a set of Michelin PS4’s and helpfully have picked up a puncture so will probably change them. I’ve noticed the grip start to diminish markedly.

10,000 miles doesn’t seem much… is this a function of tyre compound or simply the fact that I tend to make progress on a very twisty road to work?!

I’ve got an E350CDI which does seem quite front heavy…

[Dingu]

Surely it is due to both compound softness and how you use them? Just generally speaking with tyres.

[Scrump]

I got a similar mileage out of the last set of rears on my E350.

[anonymous-user]

The PS4 doesn't seem to be lasting as well as Michelins usually do, I gather the PS5 has focussed on improving this without gimping performance.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/What-is-ACTUAL...

[Haltamer]

Nothing to do with the recent cold? (Insert another winter tyre thread here)

[carreauchompeur]

Interesting. Just measured them and they’re actually 4 but with a badly worn edge and am unrepairable puncture!

The PS5s on the back do seem to be wearing a bit better.

[Sheepshanks]

carreauchompeur said:

I’ve got an E350CDI which does seem quite front heavy…

Gone now, but I had C270CDi and changed the front tyres for the first time at 40K miles - and I only did that as they'd scrubbed the outer edges so looked bad at a glance, there was still 4mm on them. They were factory fit Bridgetone's, noit known for long life. Rears lasted 18K and that was worn flush to the treadwear indicators.

[Smint]

Doesn't help when so many tyres only start off with 7mm tread.

Just had a pair of Goodyear Efficient Grip fitted to famly Golf (bargain on etyres, fitted/supplied cheaper than supply alone at Camskill), checked tread depth they have just over 8mm new, be interesting to see how they compare with the Falkens (7mm new i seem to recall) they replaced.

[Pica-Pica]

Smint said:

Doesn't help when so many tyres only start off with 7mm tread.

Just had a pair of Goodyear Efficient Grip fitted to famly Golf (bargain on etyres, fitted/supplied cheaper than supply alone at Camskill), checked tread depth they have just over 8mm new, be interesting to see how they compare with the Falkens (7mm new i seem to recall) they replaced.

I have Goodyear EfficientGrips on my 335d. I can confirm they start at 8mm, and wear well. Comfortable and quiet for a runflat. My main criteria is always wet performance first, and then comfort and low noise level. I have had them for 15k miles and they are at 5.5mm - should get to 30k miles before replacements are needed.

[Smint]

Pica-Pica said:

I have Goodyear EfficientGrips on my 335d. I can confirm they start at 8mm, and wear well. Comfortable and quiet for a runflat. My main criteria is always wet performance first, and then comfort and low noise level. I have had them for 15k miles and they are at 5.5mm - should get to 30k miles before replacements are needed.

Excellent, i'm a big fan of best wet grip possible whilst at a reasonable price (hence often our choice is Vred/Uniroyal etc) so thanks for the confirmation, the car owner in question was looking at Chinese stuff which was really not that much cheaper, luckily they took the advice and the price at etyres for those Goodyears was a bargain to boot.

Got another season's worth on the present summer Falken set not on our Forester, whilst very satisfied with the tyres was a little disappointed to find only 7mm tread new, i'll probably stick a set of those Goodyears on for the following summer.

Purely out of interest was checking over the present winter Coopers on the Foz, which still show little signs of wear after 5 or maybe 6 winters, was a little surprised and pleased to find Made in England stamped on the sidewall, they still grip well and show no signs of deterioration which has confirmed i'll continue with two sets of wheels instead of one set of all seasons, wonder if the Coopers are still made here?

Edited by Smint on Wednesday 4th January 13:58

[wyson]

Efficient Grip Performance 2’s don’t work well in the cold. The tyre hardens up, ride gets more thumpy and the grip falls off.

That is their major weakness.

I suppose all summer tyres do this to a degree, but the fall off is much more extreme than the OE Bridgestone tyres or Continental Premium Contacts which I’ve also tried.

Personally, I wouldn’t get them again, although I think they would be a good solution if you are swapping to all seasons or winter tyres during colder months.

On warmer days, they offer a good balance of comfort, grip and fuel economy, even if they are a bit squidgy and not the best handling tyre. Was pleasantly surprised in a good way at their change in behaviour with the recent temp rises above 10 degrees.

Edited by wyson on Wednesday 4th January 10:29

[cerb4.5lee]

Scrump said:

I got a similar mileage out of the last set of rears on my E350.

I've been moaning about only getting almost 21k miles out of the rears(pirelli p zero) on the GLE400d(the car isn’t a year old until April). I'll shut up now then! In fairness it is mainly because I managed 70k miles out of the all season rears(Vred quadtrac 5) on the GLC350d in comparison.