RE: One-of-50 Shelby Cobra CSX4000 for sale
RE: One-of-50 Shelby Cobra CSX4000 for sale
Tuesday 3rd January 2023

One-of-50 Shelby Cobra CSX4000 for sale

Spent millions on an original Cobra but can't bring youself to drive the thing? Step this way...


Just the other week we were telling you all about the forthcoming AC Cobra GT Roadster - a two-seat sports car with a big 663hp V8 up front. Its maker reckons it's been in development for three years, despite the fact that it appears to look much the same as the original car. But who are we to complain? In a world where the Mustang name is grafted onto an electric SUV, it's a major relief to know that AC (which has been indulging in electric propulsion for some time now) still knows how we tick. 

It should be a damn sight cheaper than an original Cobra, too, which goes double for any that passed through Carroll Shelby’s workshop. A quick search for Shelby Cobra auction values suggest you’ll need at least several million pounds burning a hole in your pocket to even consider owning one. And the lucky so-and-sos who can (not unsurprisingly) are likely to keep them under lock and key lest they turn a seven-figure investment into an eight-figure exit.

To counter that state of affairs, some dedicated collectors go to the extent of buying a recreation to partner the original car, allowing them to tally up miles on something very much like the 1960s classic, without tanking its value or, God forbid, pranging the bodywork. Of course there are replicas and then there are replicas. Which brings us to the Shelby Cobra CSX4000. 

Plainly this isn't something which has been bolted onto the chassis of a Ford Sierra in someone’s shed. In fact, Shelby would say that the CSX4000 isn't a replica at all - this is a continuation model. Launched with a production run of 50 to mark the Cobra’s half-centenary, the CSX4000 is intended to look exactly like the genuine article, albeit with minor mechanical and manufacturing improvements to bring it into the 21st century. Braking technology, for instance, has come a long way over the past 50 years, with Shelby ditching the original set-up for racing brakes. It also featured a powder-coated frame, fully independent suspension and a 105-litre racing fuel tank to keep the 7.0-litre Ford V8 fed.

This being an anniversary car means it’s covered in commutative plaques and badges. There’s one on the nose, the steering wheel, centre console and on the engine. We’d rip off the ‘genuine Shelby Cobra 427 S/C’ sticker at the top of the windscreen, though, if only to reduce the chances that someone might think you're rolling around something that would comfortably buy a large house somewhere picturesque. 

That ship might have sailed though, because the CSX4000 does look just like an original Shelby Cobra – scuffed Goodyear tyres included – even if it's available for a fraction of the price. How does £199,950 sound? That’s chump change for the wealthy collector looking to pair it up for the real thing, and not entirely out of reach for those who’ve done well in life but aren’t billionaires. The only downside, you could argue, is that this particular car comes with a fibreglass body, whereas aluminium bodywork – which was offered on continuation cars – would be a more accurate reflection of the original. But fibreglass is going to be far easier (and cheaper) to repair if pranged. All the more reason to drive it like it’s the 1960s, then.


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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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oh gosh yes please

ducnick

2,280 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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£200k for a fibreglass replica? Someone is having a giggle. You can get a Kirkham replica for a fair bit less with the same 7.0 side oiler and the more accurate alloy body.

Augustus Windsock

3,801 posts

185 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Other than the kudos of it being a continuation model, and paying the ‘Clive Sutton’ tax, why would you buy this when you can pick up a Superformance version for half the price?
Yes it’s a replica but an extremely good one
As an aside I went to buy a car off a guy on the south coast and he had a genuine Cobra in his garage but told me he raced his replica which was sat next to it
The rep was that good it was on the Cobra database iirc
I take it PH have given up pushing 4Star Classics for now and become admirers of Clive Sutton for the time being…?

cookie1600

2,741 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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If you've got to put a ‘genuine Shelby Cobra 427 S/C’ sticker on your Cobra to differentiate it to a kit car, I think it says more about the accuracy (and quantity) of the kit cars out there than the money you wasted on one of these.

It would be like putting a sticker on the Mona Lisa and saying 'it's the real deal'.

Turbobanana

8,489 posts

231 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Well I like it, but sadly I'm not in a position to "comfortably by (sic) a large house somewhere picturesque".

robemcdonald

10,036 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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ducnick said:
£200k for a fibreglass replica? Someone is having a giggle. You can get a Kirkham replica for a fair bit less with the same 7.0 side oiler and the more accurate alloy body.
This.

Take your £200k “Shelby cobra” to a car event and wince every time someone says: “fibreglass. Must be a kit car.”

Roy H

36 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Do they all have the air filter in a washing up bowl ?

Dombilano

1,457 posts

85 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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200k for a kit car hahaha

aeropilot

40,817 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Roy H said:
Do they all have the air filter in a washing up bowl ?
The original 20 odd semi-comp cars built did, yes. It was universally known as a 'turkey pan' filter....for obvious reasons.
It was actually a cold-air box that sealed up to the underside of the hood intake, so the carb didn't suck in any hot underbonnet air.

aeropilot

40,817 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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robemcdonald said:
ducnick said:
£200k for a fibreglass replica? Someone is having a giggle. You can get a Kirkham replica for a fair bit less with the same 7.0 side oiler and the more accurate alloy body.
This.

Take your £200k “Shelby cobra” to a car event and wince every time someone says: “fibreglass. Must be a kit car.”
Ironically, back in 1962, Shelby originally wanted the Cobra to have a fibreglass body, but AC's skillset was handcrafted ally, and it would back then have cost Shelby a lot more to have them made in fibreglass, so he kept the cheaper option of staying with the traditional ally body.....

Technology and skills have changed in the past 60 years, and now its the opposite.

J4CKO

46,960 posts

230 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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That sunstrip reminds me of private plates that have text underneath to explain what the owner is trying to convey.

robemcdonald

10,036 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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aeropilot said:
robemcdonald said:
ducnick said:
£200k for a fibreglass replica? Someone is having a giggle. You can get a Kirkham replica for a fair bit less with the same 7.0 side oiler and the more accurate alloy body.
This.

Take your £200k “Shelby cobra” to a car event and wince every time someone says: “fibreglass. Must be a kit car.”
Ironically, back in 1962, Shelby originally wanted the Cobra to have a fibreglass body, but AC's skillset was handcrafted ally, and it would back then have cost Shelby a lot more to have them made in fibreglass, so he kept the cheaper option of staying with the traditional ally body.....

Technology and skills have changed in the past 60 years, and now its the opposite.
How is that ironic?

wpa1975

14,760 posts

144 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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J4CKO said:
That sunstrip reminds me of private plates that have text underneath to explain what the owner is trying to convey.
Exactly but with the fibreglass body people will still assume it is a kit car anyway so pointless.

aeropilot

40,817 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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robemcdonald said:
aeropilot said:
robemcdonald said:
ducnick said:
£200k for a fibreglass replica? Someone is having a giggle. You can get a Kirkham replica for a fair bit less with the same 7.0 side oiler and the more accurate alloy body.
This.

Take your £200k “Shelby cobra” to a car event and wince every time someone says: “fibreglass. Must be a kit car.”
Ironically, back in 1962, Shelby originally wanted the Cobra to have a fibreglass body, but AC's skillset was handcrafted ally, and it would back then have cost Shelby a lot more to have them made in fibreglass, so he kept the cheaper option of staying with the traditional ally body.....

Technology and skills have changed in the past 60 years, and now its the opposite.
How is that ironic?
Its ironic, because today everyone slags off fibreglass, as kit cars and such, yet it was fibreglass that Shelby originally wanted to build the cars with, but didn't on cost grounds, as back then it would have been more expensive.....but today, its the cheap option, not the expensive option.


Pughmacher

441 posts

73 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Lovely. But I did cough at fibreglass. It imagined how it would be to run your fingers along cold aluminium and know it’s made of the right stuff. I’m sure it’s a beautiful drive and will scare the living daylights out of you if provoked too hard. Not that I’ll ever get to find out. Maybe if I did I wouldn’t be so worried about the bodywork!

leef44

5,201 posts

183 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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I love it. Fibreglass would not bother me. The price would though.

robemcdonald

10,036 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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aeropilot said:
robemcdonald said:
aeropilot said:
robemcdonald said:
ducnick said:
£200k for a fibreglass replica? Someone is having a giggle. You can get a Kirkham replica for a fair bit less with the same 7.0 side oiler and the more accurate alloy body.
This.

Take your £200k “Shelby cobra” to a car event and wince every time someone says: “fibreglass. Must be a kit car.”
Ironically, back in 1962, Shelby originally wanted the Cobra to have a fibreglass body, but AC's skillset was handcrafted ally, and it would back then have cost Shelby a lot more to have them made in fibreglass, so he kept the cheaper option of staying with the traditional ally body.....

Technology and skills have changed in the past 60 years, and now its the opposite.
How is that ironic?
Its ironic, because today everyone slags off fibreglass, as kit cars and such, yet it was fibreglass that Shelby originally wanted to build the cars with, but didn't on cost grounds, as back then it would have been more expensive.....but today, its the cheap option, not the expensive option.
Who slag’s fibreglass off?
Shelby may have wanted to use it, but didn’t. There’s probably loads of other stuff he would have liked to add as well.
Still don’t see why it’s ironic though.

S600BSB

8,491 posts

136 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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I just don't see the attraction in the Cobra.

Maccmike8

1,612 posts

84 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Worth £200k just for the white writing on the side walls!

Matt_T

1,297 posts

104 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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So am I right in thinking that the rights to the Cobra are owned by AC Cars and they license this to other companies to make either kits (DAX, Pilgrim etc) or factory built cars (Superformance, Hawk etc)?

With the above car therefore, Shelby have licensed this from AC Cars to make a factory built car?

So we therefore have two different "Shelby Cobras", one is an AC Cobra that is breathed on by Carol Shelby and the other is a car built by then but licensed from AC?