RE: Sony Honda partnership launches Afeela car brand
RE: Sony Honda partnership launches Afeela car brand
Thursday 5th January 2023

Sony Honda partnership launches Afeela car brand

What's new about this all-new car company and car? Not much


We’re used to car companies telling us they’re no longer car companies. They’re now tech companies. That’s always seemed like bunkum, because if your central product line has four wheels and involves moving people from A to B, you’re a car company. Or, as the old adage goes: ‘if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck’.

But at least Sony is a tech company at heart, so the Sony Honda Mobility (SHM) partnership has some right to claim this new label. And it’s done just that at the unveiling of its new automotive brand, Afeela, which took place at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. It’s even displayed its prototype car. ‘SHM strives to become a Mobility Tech Company that will pursue innovation in mobility by combining cutting-edge technology and passion along with people who pioneer the future with their creativity, based on our corporate purpose “Move people, through the pursuit of innovation with diverse inspirations.”’

If that sounds like the right words, just not necessarily in the right order, there were plenty more incomprehensible sentences during the press conference, spoken by Representative Director, Chairman and CEO, Yasuhide Mizuno. Take the name, Afeela. Mizuno said it represents feel, which rather makes you wonder why they didn’t just call the brand 'Feel'. Why does everything have to be so esoteric? He also claimed the new car “expresses its vision of creating a new relationship between people and mobility.”

It’s not really ‘new,’ though, is it? It’s just a different interpretation of an age-old theme. We’ve seen visions of a grand future like this since the earliest days of motoring. In the 1950s, for example, the Golden Sahara II prototype wowed people with its glow-in-the-dark tyres. It also had automatic braking, which used antennas to scan for obstacles ahead, voice control and even a wireless remote control that could open the doors, turn the engine on and off, and could be used to drive the car from outside.

Now, those abilities were at least stupefying 70 years ago, and potentially useful. Indeed, we’ve seen many of those features appear in cars over the years. But the Afeela feels like it’s offering exactly the same lightweight innovations as everyone else is these days. Things that no one has ever really asked for, because they’ve never needed them.

Take the badge on the front of the Afeela. It’s not a badge, but a “Media Bar, which allows intelligent mobility to express itself to surrounding people using light, enabling interactive communication between mobility and people." Let me try to put that in to simple terms: it’s a screen on the front of a car. And this screen displays messages to passers-by. Messages about, and I am not making this up, the weather, or the car’s state of charge. It was even demonstrated showing an advert for a film. I mean, come on, is that really the future of mobility we’ve all been dreaming about – driving a mobile billboard that tells people standing around what the weather is, which they can determine anyway just by looking up at the sky?

Mizuno also said, “We plan to use” Qualcomm Snapdragon chips, to “maximum computing performance,” and the car carries 45 cameras and sensors inside and outside to help the driver and car avoid accidents. And Afeela will “aim to develop Level 3 automated drive under limited conditions.” Okay, ‘plan’ and ‘aim’ don’t sound like the most robust words to use, nor does it sound like it’s breaking much ground.

We’re used to cars these days carrying many sensors and cameras, and the current Mercedes S-Class already offers Level 3 autonomy. There’s other stuff, to be fair, such as augmented reality sat nav - except Mercedes has offered that for some years, too. It also has cloud connectivity. Oh yes, but so does Tesla and many others. Come on, what’s actually new and interesting here? Give us something?

Perhaps this next statement will reveal all. “We aim to evolve mobility space into entertainment and emotional space, by seamlessly integrating real and virtual worlds, and exploring new entertainment possibilities through digital innovations such as the metaverse.” Nope, that just sounds like a lot more words, the crux of which is that, thanks to Sony and a tie-up with Epic Games, it will afford passengers the opportunity to sit in a car doing things they can do in their home already, like play games. Which is another thing you can already do in other cars. Oh yes, and it also has one of those futuristic half-steering wheels. Just like the Golden Sahara II had, and nearly every other futuristic prototype before and since.

The problem here (and it’s a problem we encounter with all ‘mobility tech companies’, not just SHM) is trying to read beneath the lines to find out what the substance is. What’s actually new and innovative? So often the language used to describe these future vehicles is so obtuse, it’s like trying to decipher ancient Sumerian text. It makes you wonder whether that’s the fault of the communications departments, or simply that there is nothing new or worthwhile to discuss beyond the introduction of yet another electric car. Too often there are no valuable ideas being proffered, aside from throwaways like the ability to play games, or pretending that the car understands its driver’s needs on an emotional level by changing the colour of the ambient lighting if it thinks you’re sad. 70 years ago the features being launched seemed useful and tangible. These days, they don’t.

Still, if you are convinced by what you’ve seen and heard, here’s some good news. You will be able to place an order for a production model based on this prototype at the start of 2025, and earliest deliveries (only in North America, though) will begin in spring 2026. We hope it’s worth the wait.


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DBRacingGod

Original Poster:

615 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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I’m secretly hoping their first car is called a ‘Yertitz’.

cookie1600

2,742 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Oh no! I can't wait for all the Afeela balls quips now.

Do car companies not check what crazy things can come out of apparently nondescript naming?

ducnick

2,282 posts

273 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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I’ve had this great idea for improving BEV range, or facilitating smaller batteries:


Don’t put unnecessary computing power and displays in (or on the outside) of the car

Simple but effective way to reduce energy consumption

Frimley111R

19,321 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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ducnick said:
I’ve had this great idea for improving BEV range, or facilitating smaller batteries:


Don’t put unnecessary computing power and displays in (or on the outside) of the car

Simple but effective way to reduce energy consumption
They account for a miniscule amount of the total power usage compared to propulsion.

Frimley111R

19,321 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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cookie1600 said:
Oh no! I can't wait for all the Afeela balls quips now.

Do car companies not check what crazy things can come out of apparently nondescript naming?
Yes, hence the different names for the same cars in different countries but I can't imagine a big branding meeting and someone saying 'Err, my mates might suggest that this sounds like....' hehe

Silvanus

6,916 posts

53 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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There is already a thread going regards this, its certainly an anonymous looking thing

Portofino

5,381 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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If it’s unreliable they can call it ‘The Walkman’.

McAndy

16,803 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Nice write up. Got to the end and scrolled back up and, lo-and-behold: John again. thumbup

As for the vehicle: same-old-same-new. No real innovation, other than putting in/on so much tech that insurance companies are going to price it out of the market. How much will a car-park bump cost soon? Crazy.

TWPC

906 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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John,

In terms of precisely encapsulating and expressing my views on a subject, this is one of the best articles I have read on PH. You've nailed it. More skewering of 'car industry tech/desperate preservation of profit margin through unnecessary LCD screens bks' like this, please!

Autocar published an article yesterday entitled 'Qualcomm previews next-gen in-car tech with radical concept'. The final three words are incorrect and misleading. Qualcomm want to increase their revenue, the number of chips per car continues to rise so they want to see more Qualcomm-designed chips in cars. They will drive this any way they can, even if the functionality is totally unnecessary, costly and borderline dangerous. The Sony/Honda concept looks the same.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/technology/qual...

Imagine if a car company tried to produce a light, less resource-intensive and relatively inexpensive car for families that, as a consequence of benefiting from all we have learned about powertrains, transmission and suspension design over the years, turned out to be fun to drive too. Radical! I think that sort of explains my weird belief that Dacia are one of the more exciting car companies out there at the mo.

Anyway, thank you for this ray of brightness on a gloomy Wednesday in January.

LexiconUK

71 posts

185 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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DBRacingGod said:
I’m secretly hoping their first car is called a ‘Yertitz’.
Actual LOL, thank you!

As for this 'launch' though, what a load of PR waffle-bks...

Turbobanana

8,493 posts

231 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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TWPC said:
John,

In terms of precisely encapsulating and expressing my views on a subject, this is one of the best articles I have read on PH. You've nailed it. More skewering of 'car industry tech/desperate preservation of profit margin through unnecessary LCD screens bks' like this, please!

Autocar published an article yesterday entitled 'Qualcomm previews next-gen in-car tech with radical concept'. The final three words are incorrect and misleading. Qualcomm want to increase their revenue, the number of chips per car continues to rise so they want to see more Qualcomm-designed chips in cars. They will drive this any way they can, even if the functionality is totally unnecessary, costly and borderline dangerous. The Sony/Honda concept looks the same.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/technology/qual...

Imagine if a car company tried to produce a light, less resource-intensive and relatively inexpensive car for families that, as a consequence of benefiting from all we have learned about powertrains, transmission and suspension design over the years, turned out to be fun to drive too. Radical! I think that sort of explains my weird belief that Dacia are one of the more exciting car companies out there at the mo.

Anyway, thank you for this ray of brightness on a gloomy Wednesday in January.
It's Thursday.

TWPC

906 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Turbobanana said:
TWPC said:
John,

In terms of precisely encapsulating and expressing my views on a subject, this is one of the best articles I have read on PH. You've nailed it. More skewering of 'car industry tech/desperate preservation of profit margin through unnecessary LCD screens bks' like this, please!

Autocar published an article yesterday entitled 'Qualcomm previews next-gen in-car tech with radical concept'. The final three words are incorrect and misleading. Qualcomm want to increase their revenue, the number of chips per car continues to rise so they want to see more Qualcomm-designed chips in cars. They will drive this any way they can, even if the functionality is totally unnecessary, costly and borderline dangerous. The Sony/Honda concept looks the same.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/technology/qual...

Imagine if a car company tried to produce a light, less resource-intensive and relatively inexpensive car for families that, as a consequence of benefiting from all we have learned about powertrains, transmission and suspension design over the years, turned out to be fun to drive too. Radical! I think that sort of explains my weird belief that Dacia are one of the more exciting car companies out there at the mo.

Anyway, thank you for this ray of brightness on a gloomy Wednesday in January.
It's Thursday.
getmecoat
Thank you. Sums up my day... (whichever it may be)

pquinn

7,167 posts

76 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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It's a stupid brand name, an utterly generic product, and worst of all they've copied the yoke from Tesla that *no one* wants.


Six Potter

5,987 posts

243 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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I think the car pictured looks decent in that genetic futuristicy electic car kind of way. Quite a nice clean, functional looking shape but not much to get excited about.

As for the new brand, it seems a bit unnecessary to me. Afeela doesn't seem a particularly interesting or memorable name, there is no real styling to the text, no logo. Both Honda and Sony are major companies with strong reputations and brand identities so it seem to me more sensible to use one of those. A Sony branded car could have been something familiar to people yet new to the automotive world. A company like Yamaha make consumer electronic products but also bikes as well so the president does exist.

diddy_p

44 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Does this mean that Sony has ditched working with Magna Steyr and have done the classic Japanese move of retrenching their efforts to within their shores in order to help a domestic company electrify? Who owns the IP to the work done on the Vision S?

I wonder what the motivation is with regards to going down the partnership with Honda - as the early Vision S videos looked promising and also hailed a bunch of collaborations with vehicle specific component vendors - maybe Sony reckons they could simplify things by working with a domestic vehicle company that presumably has some of these competencies in house?

TGCOTF-dewey

7,944 posts

85 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Two of the worst offenders for user interface design. It'll be a miracle if you can get in the car and start it.

Tubbycharged

64 posts

165 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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DBRacingGod said:
I’m secretly hoping their first car is called a ‘Yertitz’.
Best comment and it's the first!!!

BertBert

21,299 posts

241 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
Two of the worst offenders for user interface design. It'll be a miracle if you can get in the car and start it.
I think it's definitely confused you. This is not about a car (scoff), it's about (an) intelligent mobility.

And to the other post about the branding meeting, I was actually in a branding meeting just before Christmas and someone said "you do realise that that new name actually sounds like sodomy?" Fortunately there were other names on the list that didn't biggrin

Bert
FAOD: Fortunately, I was part of the reviewing team, not part of the team coming up with the names and concepts!

TGCOTF-dewey

7,944 posts

85 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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BertBert said:
TGCOTF-dewey said:
Two of the worst offenders for user interface design. It'll be a miracle if you can get in the car and start it.
I think it's definitely confused you. This is not about a car (scoff), it's about (an) intelligent mobility.

And to the other post about the branding meeting, I was actually in a branding meeting just before Christmas and someone said "you do realise that that new name actually sounds like sodomy?" Fortunately there were other names on the list that didn't biggrin

Bert
FAOD: Fortunately, I was part of the reviewing team, not part of the team coming up with the names and concepts!
I was very fond of the original OGC logo. It appealed to my inner 13 year old. It was a masterpiece.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-unvei...



BenGB

149 posts

159 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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DBRacingGod said:
I’m secretly hoping their first car is called a ‘Yertitz’.
Brilliant!

I'm sure my teenage children would suggest a sister car, the "Deez Nuts"

getmecoat