Discussion
This from the CPS website:
"Section 20 JA 1974 creates a range of summary offences that may be committed by persons summoned for jury service. Examples include: failing to attend; making false representations for the purposes of evading jury service or enabling another to do so; failing without reasonable excuse, to answer questions under s.2(5) (questions from an appropriate officer to establish whether or not the person is qualified for jury service) or deliberately or recklessly giving false answers in response to such questions; and serving on a jury when disqualified.
Sentencing
The offence under s.20(5)(a) of serving when disqualified (for instance because of a previous conviction) carries a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale. All the other offences carry a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale."
www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/juror-misconduct-off...
Maximum for level 3 is £1000.
How much would be likely to depend on how much you'd annoyed the judge.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-49069826
"Section 20 JA 1974 creates a range of summary offences that may be committed by persons summoned for jury service. Examples include: failing to attend; making false representations for the purposes of evading jury service or enabling another to do so; failing without reasonable excuse, to answer questions under s.2(5) (questions from an appropriate officer to establish whether or not the person is qualified for jury service) or deliberately or recklessly giving false answers in response to such questions; and serving on a jury when disqualified.
Sentencing
The offence under s.20(5)(a) of serving when disqualified (for instance because of a previous conviction) carries a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale. All the other offences carry a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale."
www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/juror-misconduct-off...
Maximum for level 3 is £1000.
How much would be likely to depend on how much you'd annoyed the judge.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-49069826
Years ago, I got a jury service letter (after doing a Jury service about 10 years prior).
I stated I had back issues, so couldn't sit for long, & needed particular chair type . I also stated that I would be losing money doing Jury service, my work was very busy, was a small department & couldn't spare me (all true). You need extenuating circumstances not to go.
I was excused, BUT I replied as soon as I got their letter, & they had about 4 weeks to reply. I only got my 'excused' letter at the end of the 4 weeks, & the trial would have been starting early the week after, so had 4 weeks worrying I'd still have to go & trying to plan work around it.
I stated I had back issues, so couldn't sit for long, & needed particular chair type . I also stated that I would be losing money doing Jury service, my work was very busy, was a small department & couldn't spare me (all true). You need extenuating circumstances not to go.
I was excused, BUT I replied as soon as I got their letter, & they had about 4 weeks to reply. I only got my 'excused' letter at the end of the 4 weeks, & the trial would have been starting early the week after, so had 4 weeks worrying I'd still have to go & trying to plan work around it.
exelero said:
I have a received a letter that I have been selected for juror service. I replied saying I can’t do it, but now I just got an email saying I have to attend.
I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
Jury service should be looked on as a privilege and a duty.I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
You shouldn't be trying to get out of it.
GasEngineer said:
exelero said:
I have a received a letter that I have been selected for juror service. I replied saying I can’t do it, but now I just got an email saying I have to attend.
I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
Jury service should be looked on as a privilege and a duty.I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
You shouldn't be trying to get out of it.
I asked for it to be deferred, by phoning and speaking to someone at the court. Don’t reply via email/letter. They were able to arrange this quite easily. Then when I got the 2nd lot of dates, I couldn’t make them so asked for further deferment. This was again accepted. Being self employed isn’t enough of a reason, they want a wide group of people and losing money isn’t seen as a reasonable reason to miss it!
Did it eventually.
Did it eventually.
HTP99 said:
GasEngineer said:
exelero said:
I have a received a letter that I have been selected for juror service. I replied saying I can’t do it, but now I just got an email saying I have to attend.
I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
Jury service should be looked on as a privilege and a duty.I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
You shouldn't be trying to get out of it.
exelero said:
Exactly. But looks like there’s no way out of this, I’ll try to call them on Monday to see if I can get at least a later date. My court date is 20th of feb, but my holidays restart on the 1st of March
From this am I right that you're not self employed but working for a company with allocated holidays per year?If this is the case you may not need to take part of your annual leave for jury service. You company (depending on size and generosity) may pay your wages as normal for the duration and then claim back some of the money when it's all over.
GasEngineer said:
exelero said:
I have a received a letter that I have been selected for juror service. I replied saying I can’t do it, but now I just got an email saying I have to attend.
I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
Jury service should be looked on as a privilege and a duty.I really don’t want to do it, because I’d lose too much money if I don’t work.
How much is the fine usually? Thanks
You shouldn't be trying to get out of it.
Working for no money is not a privilege IMO.
Rough101 said:
98elise said:
Some people have to pay bills and cannot afford the privilege.
Working for no money is not a privilege IMO.
It’s not no money though, it probably less money for many.Working for no money is not a privilege IMO.
Someone has to do it, it’s part of society.
Lots of things have to be done in society. Why not have other "privileges" that people have to do for weeks, or even months with minimal compensation?
Why not let those that consider it a privilege to volunteer for it. When I was self employed there is no way I could have taken time out to do jury service. Now I'm retired I would happily volunteer.
98elise said:
Why not let those that consider it a privilege to volunteer for it. When I was self employed there is no way I could have taken time out to do jury service. Now I'm retired I would happily volunteer.
Because you end up with juries made up of retired people, other non workers, and rich people. Not a cross section of society, which should include working people struggling to get by. Many of us cannot afford the misfortunes that might befall us, from the cat breaking its leg to your house being burgled. So we take out insurance. If you cannot afford to do jury service, take out insurance to cover it. It's dirt cheap (depending on how much cover you need to cover your reduced wage), because most people don't get called in any one year.
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