Best power provider for EV?

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eldar

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23,763 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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I have an EV on order, should be arriving in 4 months or so. Also on order, solar panels.

Any recommendations for which energy company to look at?

TheDeuce

28,105 posts

80 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Octopus Go with Intelligent Octopus for smart off peak charging.

And if you have a decent sized battery being installed with the solar.. you can fill it each night with cheap power too.

djglover

424 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Yeah, Octopus Go, or Octopus Go Faster, possibly Intelligent Octopus.

I use a Zappi, getting 7.2kw storage and 4.75kw solar in two weeks time. But this set up excludes me from Intelligent Octopus

I will hopefully be able to use the offpeak to charge the battery and car until April, then solar to do both, sunny days should yield 1/3 of a charge

The challenge will be balancing the charging of the battery, and to some extent the EV leaving enough room in each to fill the battery from solar the next day if some charging happens overnight.

The reality is not seen anyone in the market who can do this really well and I develop EV chargers :-D



Edited by djglover on Tuesday 10th January 12:20

eldar

Original Poster:

23,763 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Thanks, looks like Octopussmile seem to tick all the righrboxes.

Only issue is smets1 meters. The ones absolutely guaranteed to be updated/replaced by 31dec22.

Hahsmile

rugbyleague

329 posts

90 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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I have solar, battery, 2 EVs and a Zappi.

Battery and Zappi are recent installations, solar is now 5yrs old.

Octopus Go really works for me.

My challenge is to get my annual export 5Mwh of electricity into the battery and cars.

Bestoluck

BertBert

20,312 posts

225 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Sorry to go a little off track, but are there any reliable resources or even suppliers for solar and batteries?

pills

1,789 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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BertBert happy to recommend a friend of mine who is currently setting up my house. Zappi charger and new distribution board in so far. Batteries and inverters have arrived and awaiting installation. Solar panels going up in March and (hopefully) car arriving May! Also installing 2 heat pumps and Home Assistant to control it all.

paradigital

1,033 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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djglover said:
Yeah, Octopus Go, or Octopus Go Faster, possibly Intelligent Octopus.

I use a Zappi, getting 7.2kw storage and 4.75kw solar in two weeks time. But this set up excludes me from Intelligent Octopus

I will hopefully be able to use the offpeak to charge the battery and car until April, then solar to do both, sunny days should yield 1/3 of a charge

The challenge will be balancing the charging of the battery, and to some extent the EV leaving enough room in each to fill the battery from solar the next day if some charging happens overnight.

The reality is not seen anyone in the market who can do this really well and I develop EV chargers :-D



Edited by djglover on Tuesday 10th January 12:20
Why does it exclude you from Intelligent? I’m on Intelligent and have a hybrid solar PV and 7Kw~ battery system.

You can’t be on an export tariff AND intelligent, but I’ve got no issues being on intelligent with my setup, I just don’t get paid for excess generation exports.

TheDeuce

28,105 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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paradigital said:
djglover said:
Yeah, Octopus Go, or Octopus Go Faster, possibly Intelligent Octopus.

I use a Zappi, getting 7.2kw storage and 4.75kw solar in two weeks time. But this set up excludes me from Intelligent Octopus

I will hopefully be able to use the offpeak to charge the battery and car until April, then solar to do both, sunny days should yield 1/3 of a charge

The challenge will be balancing the charging of the battery, and to some extent the EV leaving enough room in each to fill the battery from solar the next day if some charging happens overnight.

The reality is not seen anyone in the market who can do this really well and I develop EV chargers :-D



Edited by djglover on Tuesday 10th January 12:20
Why does it exclude you from Intelligent? I’m on Intelligent and have a hybrid solar PV and 7Kw~ battery system.

You can’t be on an export tariff AND intelligent, but I’ve got no issues being on intelligent with my setup, I just don’t get paid for excess generation exports.
I assume any excess solar tops up the battery during the day, and assuming the battery isn't full from that, it gets filled with grid power during the cheap hours? IE you never need to pay for any peak rate power because all day the house is powered by the battery/solar?


paradigital

1,033 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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TheDeuce said:
I assume any excess solar tops up the battery during the day, and assuming the battery isn't full from that, it gets filled with grid power during the cheap hours? IE you never need to pay for any peak rate power because all day the house is powered by the battery/solar?

Correct, excess generation is either taken by the Zappi or dumped into the hybrid battery for consumption later. And also yes, I fully charge the battery overnight (at the 7.5p/kwh rate) which I then consume until the sun rises and after the sun sets (or during overcast days). Not quite staying off the “expensive” rate juice completely, but tend to get to around 9pm on a sunny winters day, and 5:30pm on an overcast one.

Only had the system since early December, so yet to see what will happen in summer.

We have one EV and one PHEV that we dump excess generation into.

djglover

424 posts

231 months

Thursday 12th January 2023
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paradigital said:
djglover said:
Yeah, Octopus Go, or Octopus Go Faster, possibly Intelligent Octopus.

I use a Zappi, getting 7.2kw storage and 4.75kw solar in two weeks time. But this set up excludes me from Intelligent Octopus

I will hopefully be able to use the offpeak to charge the battery and car until April, then solar to do both, sunny days should yield 1/3 of a charge

The challenge will be balancing the charging of the battery, and to some extent the EV leaving enough room in each to fill the battery from solar the next day if some charging happens overnight.

The reality is not seen anyone in the market who can do this really well and I develop EV chargers :-D



Edited by djglover on Tuesday 10th January 12:20
Why does it exclude you from Intelligent? I’m on Intelligent and have a hybrid solar PV and 7Kw~ battery system.

You can’t be on an export tariff AND intelligent, but I’ve got no issues being on intelligent with my setup, I just don’t get paid for excess generation exports.
You are not excluded I guess but Intelligent uses the car to stop and start charging during the low rate, so doesn’t allow solar matching to happen. As car says no to the charge and the solar would be exported. Interested to know if anyone has got Intelligent Octopus and solar matching working together well

Edited by djglover on Thursday 12th January 00:17

doyouwantonions

34 posts

85 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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eldar said:
Thanks, looks like Octopussmile seem to tick all the righrboxes.

Only issue is smets1 meters. The ones absolutely guaranteed to be updated/replaced by 31dec22.

Hahsmile
just signed up and added Intelligent tariff with Smets 1 meter and hod no problems - if its capable of 30 minute readings, mine worked fine