What’s cheap now but will be worth a fortune in 15 years?
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We’ve had Subaru 22Bs selling for £250,000, Lotus Carltons for £150,000 and now a scruffy Audi RS2 is up for £60,000. Basically anything rare and quick from the 1990s has gone astronomic. 15-odd years ago, those cars were nowhere near as valuable: well regarded sure, but at the bottom of the depreciation curve with ticket prices about 10% of what the are now. So what rarities are out there now from the end of the noughties (say 2005 - 2010-ish) which nearly everybody admires, but whose prices have dropped and not really started to rise yet? Are there investment bargains to be had, or will the end of new ICE car production also spark the end of interest in the old ones?
Difficult to call, as much of the early 2000's stuff that should currently be at the bottom it's depreciation curve has already been dragged up with the values of modern classics.
15 years is likely going to be a time where the usage of ICE cars is heavily penalised with taxes, clean air zones, car free/15 minute cities etc, at least in the UK.
15 years is likely going to be a time where the usage of ICE cars is heavily penalised with taxes, clean air zones, car free/15 minute cities etc, at least in the UK.
DaveCWK said:
Difficult to call, as much of the early 2000's stuff that should currently be at the bottom it's depreciation curve has already been dragged up with the values of modern classics.
15 years is likely going to be a time where the usage of ICE cars is heavily penalised with taxes, clean air zones, car free/15 minute cities etc, at least in the UK.
Depends if “historic vehicles” over 40 years old for example, are exempt. I know they made millions but it amazes me how cheap MGBs are. You can pick up a runner for £3k and the spares market is huge.15 years is likely going to be a time where the usage of ICE cars is heavily penalised with taxes, clean air zones, car free/15 minute cities etc, at least in the UK.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 12th January 18:11
2038 is going to be like the Year 2000 / Millenium bug for coders all over again, thanks to 32bit Unix time. It's already got a Daily Mail suitable name ... 'the Epochalypse' 
So, some coding types are going to be putting their rates up around then.
To try and shoehorn it into being car-related, I'd imagine there will be a fair few 'future classics' that will be affected by this when various microcontrollers and whatnot stop being able to do maths and they're not fixable.
So, some coding types are going to be putting their rates up around then.To try and shoehorn it into being car-related, I'd imagine there will be a fair few 'future classics' that will be affected by this when various microcontrollers and whatnot stop being able to do maths and they're not fixable.
Anything that i've sold in the last 20 years.
Low point being a nice DC2 that i only owned for 2 weeks as it really didn't live up to the hype. Sold for £4k ish. Would be £10k+ now
My lovely S1 elise that i sold for £12k. £16k now?
Or the caterham k-series that i let go for £11k. Would be £15k easily now.
The 205 GTI 1.6 that i had as a student. Sold with 140k miles and basically ruined to a mate for £600.
Granted i've never owned anything that has properly rocketed
Low point being a nice DC2 that i only owned for 2 weeks as it really didn't live up to the hype. Sold for £4k ish. Would be £10k+ now
My lovely S1 elise that i sold for £12k. £16k now?
Or the caterham k-series that i let go for £11k. Would be £15k easily now.
The 205 GTI 1.6 that i had as a student. Sold with 140k miles and basically ruined to a mate for £600.
Granted i've never owned anything that has properly rocketed
LowTread said:
Anything that i've sold in the last 20 years.
Low point being a nice DC2 that i only owned for 2 weeks as it really didn't live up to the hype. Sold for £4k ish. Would be £10k+ now
My lovely S1 elise that i sold for £12k. £16k now?
Or the caterham k-series that i let go for £11k. Would be £15k easily now.
The 205 GTI 1.6 that i had as a student. Sold with 140k miles and basically ruined to a mate for £600.
Granted i've never owned anything that has properly rocketed
But they’re all old news from 1990s and before. It’s the next generation I’m curious about.Low point being a nice DC2 that i only owned for 2 weeks as it really didn't live up to the hype. Sold for £4k ish. Would be £10k+ now
My lovely S1 elise that i sold for £12k. £16k now?
Or the caterham k-series that i let go for £11k. Would be £15k easily now.
The 205 GTI 1.6 that i had as a student. Sold with 140k miles and basically ruined to a mate for £600.
Granted i've never owned anything that has properly rocketed
Something like the Elise is a good shout. Somewhat affordable, if not cheap, but simple enough that it still will be maintainable in future.
Cheap pre-718 Boxsters and Caymen (sic) with manual boxes and NA engines are decent value now and will be sought out as weekend cars when 911 are too complex and dull.
Lightweight hot hatches - Clio 197, Suzuki Swift.
GT86 will surely be a cult classic. Was well reviewed but sold only in modest numbers.
Cheap pre-718 Boxsters and Caymen (sic) with manual boxes and NA engines are decent value now and will be sought out as weekend cars when 911 are too complex and dull.
Lightweight hot hatches - Clio 197, Suzuki Swift.
GT86 will surely be a cult classic. Was well reviewed but sold only in modest numbers.
Of the cars currently about 10-15 years old, the Mk2 Focus ST must be in with a chance of going up in value.
Almost shed money at the moment and almost every one I see is currently driven by the 3D Plates/Tints/Wind Deflector types. This is pretty much where Imprezas and Mitsubishi Evos were about 10 years ago just before all the badly modified ones got scrapped/crashed and the remaining few unmolested ones which had been bought new by old men as a retirement treat became valuable.
The main reason the Focus ST may not go the same way though is the Focus RS ... which is already silly money for secondhand ones of that age.
Almost shed money at the moment and almost every one I see is currently driven by the 3D Plates/Tints/Wind Deflector types. This is pretty much where Imprezas and Mitsubishi Evos were about 10 years ago just before all the badly modified ones got scrapped/crashed and the remaining few unmolested ones which had been bought new by old men as a retirement treat became valuable.
The main reason the Focus ST may not go the same way though is the Focus RS ... which is already silly money for secondhand ones of that age.
I would say a well loved Nissan GTR could do well in the future, although thy do seem to be holding value at the moment.
Or a Mk 1 Audi TT, preferably the Quattro Sport
Mk 3 Mr2 perhaps.
Vauxhall VX220
VW Up GTi
Or a Mk 1 Audi TT, preferably the Quattro Sport
Mk 3 Mr2 perhaps.
Vauxhall VX220
VW Up GTi
Edited by jamesbilluk on Thursday 12th January 15:30
Edited by jamesbilluk on Thursday 12th January 15:43
Clio 172/182/197 will be the next 205 GTi. I think we have passed the bottom though when they all got turned into track day cars and prices are on the rise.
986/987 Boxsters, maybe not a fortune as there are so many of them, but you won't lose money.
Audi TT, will definitely be a future classic.
If I had to buy an immaculate example of one now to store in a heated garage it would be the Clio.
986/987 Boxsters, maybe not a fortune as there are so many of them, but you won't lose money.
Audi TT, will definitely be a future classic.
If I had to buy an immaculate example of one now to store in a heated garage it would be the Clio.
MikeM6 said:
I have it on good authority that Silverstone Blue BMW M6s from around 2006 that have not been modified will be worth loads very soon.
That’s not a bad call with the V10 up front, considering how much the 1990s V12 BMW 850CSi and even the lesser models are now worth.How about a mint low mileage first generation Mini Cooper S from about 2006. Light blue with white roof?
Edited by LotusOmega375D on Thursday 12th January 15:35
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