RE: Time capsule cars | Six of the Best
RE: Time capsule cars | Six of the Best
Saturday 14th January 2023

Time capsule cars | Six of the Best

One day, you'll wake up and new combustion cars will be outlawed - what would you like to have in the garage?


BMW M3 (E92), 2008, 58k, £24,995

In any decade previous to this one, the idea of buying a car as a time capsule might've seemed peculiar. The temptation to lock something special away has always existed, of course - but typically great expense or anticipation of rising prices would've been the motivation for doing it. Now, with a hybrid-only 2030 looming (and worse to come) there are valid reasons for preserving something fiery that has nothing whatsoever to do with money. Who wouldn't want to creak the garage doors open in an EV-only era to see a gleaming, mint-condition E92 M3 leering back at you? That sound and feel of its V8 when everything around you is noiseless and emotionally vapid? Fugetaboutit. And sure, combustion engines will linger for a long time after the axe falls on brand-new stuff, but how much of it will be of the cherished sort? Not much is the answer. Accordingly, like Richard Bacon stumbling into the Blue Peter garden with a shovel, we've selected half a dozen to preserve for prosperity. Starting with this delectable Melbourne Red M3 from Munich Legends. 

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Alpine A110, 2018, 18k, £44,995

The way things are heading, lightweight cars will be few and far between in years to come. Unless there’s a mightily significant development in battery technology, it’s unlikely that the current trend of weighing cars down with lithium-ion dumbbells is changing soon. Beyond the usual suspects from Lotus, the antidote to heavy cars – of today and the future – has to be the featherweight Alpine A110. Tiny, low and weighing just a tonne – well, ish – it’s going to feel even more special than it does today. And if you’ve ever driven an A110, you’ll know they feel pretty special already. It’s not just the weight alone, but also the springing. The trend for stiffly sprung cars hasn’t just arrived with electric offerings. It’s been around for a while, and having a car that breathes with the road and even rolls gently in the corners like the A110 does (yes, body roll, in a sports car), is another of life’s great pleasures. The little A110 may have only been around a few years, but its approach is as retro as they come.

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Porsche 911 Carrera S (991), 2012, 20k, £58,990

It would be wrong - probably criminal - to leave Porsche off this list. After all, the unfettered rasp of a flat-six will surely be one of the noises we’ll be missing the most. And I say ‘unfettered’ because a 991.1 was the last of the naturally aspirated brigade – unless you’re thinking about venturing to the wallet-crushing territory of GT3s. I am not saying this C2 will give you quite the same rawness as one of those, but it still has a sense of purity about it. Not just thanks to its atmospheric breathing but also a manual gearbox and just two driven wheels. For all those that say, ‘It’s just a 911,’ that’s true, it is. And when the 911s of the future are whizzing around silently, even you will be ruing the days when cars like this were rife. What’s more, it’s yours for less than £60,000 with sensible mileage, too. It might be the everyday sports car, but this 911 is anything but boring.

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Toyota GR Yaris, 2021, 6k, £34,148

When I was at the launch of the Civic Type R this week, I got talking to another journalist whose writing you’ll most likely have read. He’s been around an awfully long time, written for all the top mags and papers, and he’s one of the respected ones. Anyway, I always enjoy talking to him because he’s old school and always has a view that I enjoy listening to, even if I don’t always agree with it. What’s this got to do with the GR Yaris? Well, after bemoaning electric cars because they offer zero excitement in equal measure to their emissions, and saying he had been struggling to get excited about modern machinery in general, he suddenly perked up. “But I had a GR Yaris the other week,” he said, “and I absolutely love that car. Reminds me of a modern-day Integrale”. It does me, too, come to think of it, in the way it’s small and surefooted enough to absolutely demolish a B road. For that reason, it definitely deserves a place on this list.

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Bentley Brooklands, 2008, 8k, £136,950

There are cars with bigger engines, but not much bigger. And there are cars with more cylinders, of course. Yet there’s something about the hand-built Brooklands, with its hand-assembled 6.75-litre L Series pushrod V8, that seems to exemplify the non-hybrid era. Basically, it’s big in size, big in capacity and has a big thirst. Above all, though, it’s big on charm. I can very much imagine this would feel like a lovely throwback to look forward to in the post-2030 apocalypse. It’s not only its size and engine, though. Think about its interior for a moment. It’s festooned with buttons – real ones, rather than icons. There is an infotainment screen, but as that motors out of the leather-trimmed top roll and displays its fuzzy, Commadore 64 graphics, it’ll seem like a far cry from the all-encompassing IMAX screens of 2030. Bloody good job, too. It’s also a reminder of the days when big Bentleys or Rolls-Royces, could deliver the on-road presence of a 36-tonne Mack truck, while being beautifully elegant with it. 

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Ferrari 599 GTB, 2009, 18k, £99,950

It’s a total coincidence, this. A list that just happens to include three, four, six, eight and now twelve cylinders. Almost the complete boxset of internal combustion. Well, maybe that’s not quite true – there was an element of wanting certain engines, and one of them was certainly a V12. And not just any old V12. The Godfocker of V12s: one made by Ferrari with a crackled red finish on top. That’s twelve cylinders, arranged in a 65-degree vee, displacing 6.0 litres, and revving out to 8,400rpm. A little before that crescendo it would hit 620hp, which at the time made it the most powerful series production engine in Ferrari’s history. It also produced over 100hp per litre without forced induction, and if you need a pin-up that encapsulates the fabulousness of internal combustion, at or near its peak, then this Tipo F140 motor is it. As a bonus, it’s wrapped up in a dazzling Pininfarina body, with that classic long-bonnet, short-back stance that can only mean one thing: no electric motors, just a colossal engine up front. And all for less than six figures, too. 

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Author
Discussion

Turini

Original Poster:

477 posts

196 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Ferrari and Porsche for me. 911 as daily and v12 weekender and super fast grand tourer

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Alpine and Yaris for me, all the rest are cars for dicks. (911 on the fence maybe)

b14

1,311 posts

218 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Checks box for weekly mention of Alpine A110, tick

EorS

25 posts

162 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Bentley, Ferrari and Yaris. That's all I'll really need surely? Right, now to raid down the side of the sofa and back of the fridge.

Chubbyross

5,005 posts

115 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Tricky choice but I think I’d take either the Alpine or 911. If the latter I’d prefer a 997 variant as more analogue, for me the best era of 911.

Sevenman

764 posts

222 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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The list missed the Toyota Avensis with the 1.6 diesel. That's a startling omission.

And a TVR of course. That's what I am hanging on to, maybe to run on synthetic fuel one day.

Augustus Windsock

3,804 posts

185 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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I must be (and am) getting old because the Alpine, Bentley and Ferrari do nothing for me (mind tou, Shania Twain does nothing for me; I’ve asked her, but she won’t….)
The Yaris appeals because of its performance and size, the BMW because of the engine and the Porsche, because, well, it’s a 911 which is probably the wrong reason for liking it.
But if I had to choose one?
Yaris. All day long.

Cambs_Stuart

3,539 posts

114 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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I'd have a 90s rally hooligan tool (impreza/evo/delta) and a light french hot hatch. But that's just me.

S600BSB

8,501 posts

136 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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The 911 is well priced, but I'd still prefer a 997.

Slowlygettingit

946 posts

71 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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The Bentley is gorgeous and the Ferrari pretty tidy too.
The rest don’t do it for me as time capsules and should just have the wheel nuts driven off them now while we can.

GM182

1,483 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Augustus Windsock said:
(mind tou, Shania Twain does nothing for me; I’ve asked her, but she won’t….)
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That’s because you don’t impress her much wink

I have been thinking about this topic a while now…good list. My pick is the M3. Love them in red Imola or Melbourne

wpa1975

14,777 posts

144 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Yaris as a daily, Ferrari for the weekends, sorted

martin12345

1,014 posts

119 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Never mind "Time Capsule"

I've moved into my "bunker" already and equipped it with


2002 Jaguar XJR
2020 GR Yaris (arriving next week)
2012 Toyota Hilux
2000 Honda VTR1000 SP1


The only change from this I can see in the future is possibly

Replace Hilux with a newer one if /when this one rots out
Replace GR Yaris with an FL5 CTR if the GRY proves impracticably small

Otherwise, I think the garage is optimised for the rest of my life



big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Gotta say, none of these cars would be in my first choices.

Lotus for something light, nimble and great round a track.
A Litchfield GTR with around 1,000 bhp for sheer brutality.
A 69 Mach 1 Mustang for retro cool.
A Subaru 22B for rally heroics, and looks I could drool over till the day I die.
A 360 Challenge Stradale to tick the Italian and Ferrari boxes.
A Lexus LS for upsetting the German applecart and forcing all of them to up their game, while giving them apoplexy by the bucket load. It's also a hugely competent family car, with quality that will last longer than I will, and something I'd like to be buried in one day.

Black S2K

1,933 posts

279 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Mysstree said:
Alpine and Yaris for me, all the rest are cars for dicks. (911 on the fence maybe)
Yup - only those two interest me.

The Yaris is a grower - it looked utterly hideous in the early photos, but see one in the metal and it's quite alluring as a package.

Reassured that the journalist referred to is also jaded by modern stuff - it's not just me, then.

Black S2K

1,933 posts

279 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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GM182 said:
Augustus Windsock said:
(mind tou, Shania Twain does nothing for me; I’ve asked her, but she won’t….)
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That’s because you don’t impress her much wink

I have been thinking about this topic a while now…good list. My pick is the M3. Love them in red Imola or Melbourne
Great repartee for a wet Saturday! Glad wit is still permitted - for the present.

CABC

6,304 posts

131 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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list is too modern, lacking in the 'purity' of the ICE-eras best.

Elise - best light sports car ever, on a modern chassis too.
TVR - best way to remember a 'proper' old school V8
MX5 mk1 - remember simple and light?
911 - no later than 997
Clio 182 - peak simple hot hatch
Vantage V12 - in years gone by cars were penned by designers
McL F1 - when everything comes together
Morgan Plus 4 2020 - that'll fool them!

Stunters

619 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Having thought about it over the last few years, I have probably now selected my time capsule cars, and there is quite a bit of common ground with this PH article.
My three are an E90 M3, a 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 and a GR Yaris.
All with manual gearboxes.
Three different cylinder counts, two different engine positions, two different means of getting the power to the wheels, and each car has a distinct character.

A potential replacement for the M3 would be the forthcoming Mustang Dark Horse.
If I could add a fourth car it would be the new FL5 Civic Type R, bur it wouldn't replace the Yaris.




anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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M3 Daily

Ferrari at the weekend.

The alpine is very ugly in my eyes.
The bentley is vulgar.
The yaris is a bit small.
The Porsche is a bit well Porsche which in my eyes = superiority complex, slightly arrogant and cant drive worth a tosh.

hairykrishna

14,528 posts

233 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Not sure about the list, bit new for me. Ferrari isn't a bad shout I suppose.

I'd need a MK1 MR2. Probably the supercharger if we're doing it properly.

I was going to say XJS but if we're dreaming we might as well make it a Lister Le Man's.

Clio Williams for the hot hatch slot.

I'd fancy a 928 but the Lister has the GT car need covered.

I think an old school Lambo for peak shouty combustion engine. Maybe a Diablo? Or a Murcie.