US Government T-Bills
US Government T-Bills
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R33FAL

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590 posts

192 months

Saturday 14th January 2023
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Does anyone know of a route to invest money in US T-Bills for a period of 12 months? I note the 1-year treasury rate is 4.69% which is quite a bit more compelling than other saving routes in the UK. This would need to be GBP hedged. Quantum of around £1mn.

R33FAL

Original Poster:

590 posts

192 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Figured it out for anyone interested. Turns out you can do it through Interactive Brokers, Barcap or HSBC... Gilts especially can be quite tax advantageous if you buy at discount to par.

jjr1

3,041 posts

284 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Thank you I will look into this.

DaveA8

699 posts

105 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Thanks, the big question is whether there is a with holding tax applied as a non US citizen. I was doing nicely with MLP's ( master Limited Partnerships) in oil and gas pipelines but since 1st Jan they applied a very nasty with holding tax on both income and upon sale.

Regards Treasuries, the consensus is that the $ still has some way to fall as the FED potentially complete hiking whilst other countries continue. If one can remove the tax risk and currency risk, it's a good rate but it can soon disappear and I hear a lot of "talking heads" speaking of peak USD

LooneyTunes

9,084 posts

182 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Out of interest, how are you doing the hedging and what’s that costing?

LeoSayer

7,713 posts

268 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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it would be easier to invest via a hedged bond fund although that won't give you the fixed yield that you would get from buying individual bonds and holding to maturity.

bitchstewie

64,415 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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I assume you can't buy a hedged UK ETF or fund that holds these?

R33FAL

Original Poster:

590 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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If you have to hedge the USD exposure I found out it it will cost around 1% of the return, so turns out it's easier to just invest directly in Gilts (the return will be about on par after the USD hedge). I want to avoid using an ETF/Fund to avoid paying "middle-man" fees but if depends on how much you want to invest. Let's see what the next UK bank rate decision brings, might give these an extra pop!

WayOutWest

1,075 posts

82 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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In answer to bhstewie, yes, ishares offer a 1-3 year US Treasury ETF hedged to GBP, and only 0.1% TER. Ticker is IBTG. But I came to the same conclusion as mentioned above e.g. by the time you deduct the (hidden) hedging cost you may as well hold an equivalent gilt or gilt ETF.

LeoSayer

7,713 posts

268 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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bhstewie said:
I assume you can't buy a hedged UK ETF or fund that holds these?
Here's one I found:
https://www.justetf.com/uk/etf-profile.html?query=...