Audi E-Tron 55 SUV - why so cheap?
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Nothing, you've got your prices wrong - they were £59k new for the lowest spec, up to mid-80s for the highest (I'm sure you could inflate that a bit with stupid options).
As you've said, lots of them about, not exactly tip-top tech compared to some rivals etc, so depreciation will continue.
As you've said, lots of them about, not exactly tip-top tech compared to some rivals etc, so depreciation will continue.
You're right OP, they are cheap. I noticed this and was thinking they looked great value. Interesting at last I have found someone that thinks the same.
Local Audi dealer said they don't really want them back off PCP, as users are wary about S/H pure electric stuff, and the market reflects this. He was also trying to stick me into a new one, which I don't want.
Same doesn't seem to apply to Taycans, but I like the look of the Audi. Used pure EV market must still be very immature. Watch this space I guess.
Local Audi dealer said they don't really want them back off PCP, as users are wary about S/H pure electric stuff, and the market reflects this. He was also trying to stick me into a new one, which I don't want.
Same doesn't seem to apply to Taycans, but I like the look of the Audi. Used pure EV market must still be very immature. Watch this space I guess.
Strange thing is a full range of 190ish miles, maybe 150 in real world, is more than enough for the vast majority of people most of the time. But it just seems pants compared to 400 miles in a petrol model, or 300 in a newer EV.
A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
Hitch said:
Strange thing is a full range of 190ish miles, maybe 150 in real world, is more than enough for the vast majority of people most of the time. But it just seems pants compared to 400 miles in a petrol model, or 300 in a newer EV.
A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
My shed diesel will easily do 700 miles to a tank on the motorway, when it has a range remaining of 150 miles this is when I fill up! I am not sure I could drive a car where the total range is equal to the point where I decide to refuel my current car.A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
One of my neighbours had a Smart ForFour EV for two years and have recently replaced it with a Toyota Yaris Hybrid. They got sick of the terrible range, hassle with public charging and wearing coats and blankets in the winter due to the range reducing when putting the heater on.
I think EVs only work if you also have an ICE car for longer journeys. You can then charge the EV at home and use it for local journeys such as taking the children to school.
To be honest I don't think EVs work as an only car and seem to be more of a virtue signalling exercise. You only have to look at the second hand values of EVs to see what second hand buyers think of them.
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This.
It was the first mainstream E- SUV and is was pretty poor for range. I used to see lots of them in L1 hiding behind HGV's trying to eke out as much range which I thought was strange to buy a new car and be forced to drive it in that manner.
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This.
It was the first mainstream E- SUV and is was pretty poor for range. I used to see lots of them in L1 hiding behind HGV's trying to eke out as much range which I thought was strange to buy a new car and be forced to drive it in that manner.
Hitch said:
Strange thing is a full range of 190ish miles, maybe 150 in real world, is more than enough for the vast majority of people most of the time. But it just seems pants compared to 400 miles in a petrol model, or 300 in a newer EV.
A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
The thing for me would be that although 150 miles of range is fine most of the time, every time I drove to my parents' place, or over to the Lakes, or to the in-laws, I'd be thinking 'why the hell have I spent forty grand on a car only to end up having to spend much more time at service stations than before (places I have studiously avoided up until now)?'. So yeah I'd end up still using an ICE for that stuff too, leaving the E-Tron as a huge, expensive way of getting to work and the shops. Fine if you want a bit of flash and can access some sort of tax dodge to get it, but sod spending my own money on one.A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
Roger Irrelevant said:
The thing for me would be that although 150 miles of range is fine most of the time, every time I drove to my parents' place, or over to the Lakes, or to the in-laws, I'd be thinking 'why the hell have I spent forty grand on a car only to end up having to spend much more time at service stations than before (places I have studiously avoided up until now)?'. So yeah I'd end up still using an ICE for that stuff too, leaving the E-Tron as a huge, expensive way of getting to work and the shops. Fine if you want a bit of flash and can access some sort of tax dodge to get it, but sod spending my own money on one.
And that exactly sums up why the second hand market are wary of second hand EVs and hence the depreciation.As I drive on the motorways I am noticing more and more EVs bimbling along in the slow lane, or "EV lane" as I now call it.
Bit of flash company car tax dodge for the wife to virtue signal when she takes the children to school.
Plus public charging is stupidly expensive, more expensive than running the equivalent petrol Q5.
Hitch said:
Strange thing is a full range of 190ish miles, maybe 150 in real world, is more than enough for the vast majority of people most of the time. But it just seems pants compared to 400 miles in a petrol model, or 300 in a newer EV.
A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
Like every EV the battery will continuously degrade so could well loose 5% of its range each year. I had a Kona electric and within 18 months from new it lost 20 miles from a full charge. Doesn’t take long before your £80k EV won’t do any more than 100 miles between charges.A mate of mine has one, and he said it is fine day to day. But they have to jump into his wife's mini to go to their house in the lakes which he hadn't considered when he ordered it. Got sick of driving with no heating or electrics on!
Joey Deacon said:
Roger Irrelevant said:
The thing for me would be that although 150 miles of range is fine most of the time, every time I drove to my parents' place, or over to the Lakes, or to the in-laws, I'd be thinking 'why the hell have I spent forty grand on a car only to end up having to spend much more time at service stations than before (places I have studiously avoided up until now)?'. So yeah I'd end up still using an ICE for that stuff too, leaving the E-Tron as a huge, expensive way of getting to work and the shops. Fine if you want a bit of flash and can access some sort of tax dodge to get it, but sod spending my own money on one.
And that exactly sums up why the second hand market are wary of second hand EVs and hence the depreciation.As I drive on the motorways I am noticing more and more EVs bimbling along in the slow lane, or "EV lane" as I now call it.
Bit of flash company car tax dodge for the wife to virtue signal when she takes the children to school.
Plus public charging is stupidly expensive, more expensive than running the equivalent petrol Q5.
What would work for me is a runabout EV to replace a 1.2 Fiat 500 that is used for that and I could charge at home (no public chargers within 20 miles) but nothing makes sense at the moment to switch my owned outright 7 year old 500 for even a new 500e or for that matter a new petrol one
I can see the arguments for having an electric car for local stuff and an ICE car for long journeys as a number of posters suggest, I guess if that is the preferred option for families buying EV's theres not a huge need for a big SUV to do the local stuff and that's the type of car you want for the family holidays etc which means the Audi is stuck somewhere between the two.
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