RE: Toto Wolff's Ferrari F40 for sale
RE: Toto Wolff's Ferrari F40 for sale
Saturday 21st January 2023

Toto Wolff's Ferrari F40 for sale

And you thought his SL Black Series was cool...


It’s not often that a famous owner features more than once in a story like this. There’s Jay Kay, obviously, but most celebrity car portfolios either aren’t that interesting or - more likely - don’t come up for sale that often. After all, if you’d amassed some of the incredible cars nestled away in collections across the globe, why get rid?

Toto Wolff can be our first exception to the rule. You might remember his SL65 Black Series was for sale a little while back, presumably as there’s not time to use such an array of awesome cars as CEO of Mercedes-AMG F1. And anyone who owns an SL Black is a good egg in our book, besides the fact that Drive to Survive has painted Wolff in quite a favourable light as well. If you haven't seen it, you’d like to have a beer and talk about limited-edition AMGs with him, put it that way. 

Now one more of Wolff’s cars is for sale, and it’s another that only furthers his petrolhead kudos. Because, as you’d probably deduced by now, it’s a Ferrari F40. For many, the definitive Ferrari - perhaps even the definitive supercar. The last car out of Maranello signed off by Enzo himself, a Ferrari so hardcore you could see carbonfibre through the paint, and with the infamous 201mph top speed thanks to a twin-turbo V8 wedged in the middle. It’s hard to have a car discussion of any kind without the F40 coming up at some point. It’s one of the icons for very, very good reason, regardless of who used to own it.

Even without Toto Wolff’s name on the title, this F40 is an interesting example, one of only 27 ever delivered new to Spain. A tiny portion of the 1,300 made in total, which is notable, even if the spec remains the same as other markets. Fresh from a restoration with a renowned Ferrari specialist in Italy, the F40 looks better even than it did on bedroom posters. With all due respect to Ferrari, it’s probably better now than when new in 1990, given F40s were never known as the pinnacle of supercar assembly.

This one is also Classiche certified, and is being sold with a wealth of history. It’s surely as good as an F40 is going to get, with the added bonus of coming from Toto Wolff’s collection. Oh yes, and it’s covered little more than a hundred miles a year, the odo currently showing 3,439 miles. So it ain’t going to come cheap. The only F40 currently on PH with an asking price showing is available at - wait for it - £2.3m, in case there was any doubt about just how much the entire world still loves the car. And how much they’re willing to pay for it. With the provenance of this one, plus the recent overhaul and spectacularly low mileage, you’d have to imagine the POA being in the £3m region. Which is going to be a chunk of any lotto win this weekend.

But then it’s hardly like the F40’s hallowed reputation, built up over 35 years of breathless road test praise and video superstardom, is going to take any kind of hit over the coming decades. As the electric supercar comes to the fore, so the reverence around the V6, V8, V10 and V12 legends of the past only looks set to go one way. And they don't get any more iconic than the F40. Wonder what else Toto has stashed away for the next clearout?


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GTRene

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22,656 posts

254 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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nice, but lol, it looks almost a kit kar by interior look, see the console and dash and materials biglaugh


Turbobanana

8,493 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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GTRene said:
nice, but lol, it looks almost a kit kar by interior look, see the console and dash and materials biglaugh

So what?

It was built as a no-compromises supercar and if you can afford the entry fee, you can afford to have it trimmed any way you like.

I'd leave it just like it is*, thank you very much.




*OK, maybe a PH Smiley on the edge of the rear wing that doesn't have "F40" cast into it smile

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Lovely, a super car powered go cart and little else in essence, fantastic machine. I would say this is the most iconic car of both my childhood and adult life to date, better than any Bugatti variant I have ever seen.

2 GKC

2,317 posts

135 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Do the Hartleys pay you to keep promoting their cars?

Griffithy

929 posts

306 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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I don´t get the love for them.
They always looked like a very badly built kit car.
At least in the eighties when they were new, when I have seen Gerhard Berger´s and Thomas Muster´s several times.

Dave Hedgehog

16,364 posts

234 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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GTRene said:
nice, but lol, it looks almost a kit kar by interior look, see the console and dash and materials biglaugh
you should see under the body work, it makes most kit cars look like premium products

jason61c

5,978 posts

204 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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shame its not for sale elsewhere. then the only reason i'd not buy it would be money.

S600BSB

8,498 posts

136 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Wow

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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GTRene said:
nice, but lol, it looks almost a kit kar by interior look, see the console and dash and materials biglaugh
Once you're in the drivers seat you won't notice. Now take the clams off and some of the welding, dear god, I taught my 10 year old daugther to weld and she could do a better job!

leef44

5,201 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Griffithy said:
I don´t get the love for them.
They always looked like a very badly built kit car.
At least in the eighties when they were new, when I have seen Gerhard Berger´s and Thomas Muster´s several times.
The reason they are so expensive is because if you have Chris Harris level of driving skill and you can hire out a track with no limits just for your single car driving pleasure then you can have fun with it.

Well that rules me out. If I had the money, I would buy an F50 instead and listen to that natural aspirated V12 engine scream with instant throttle response.

iphonedyou

10,422 posts

187 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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2 GKC said:
Do the Hartleys pay you to keep promoting their cars?
Well you're not paying for the content, so...

macky17

2,239 posts

219 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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pheonix478 said:
GTRene said:
nice, but lol, it looks almost a kit kar by interior look, see the console and dash and materials biglaugh
Once you're in the drivers seat you won't notice. Now take the clams off and some of the welding, dear god, I taught my 10 year old daugther to weld and she could do a better job!
Question is, how did he ever fit in the driver's seat? Isn't he 6-6 or something? I'm 6-4 and don't even get close.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,167 posts

180 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Griffithy said:
I don´t get the love for them.
They always looked like a very badly built kit car.
Yup, I've seen MR2 replicas built to a higher standard. Never got it. Ok, they're seriously fast. And handle brilliantly apparently. But that's not enough for me to compensate for the dreadful looks and terrible finish.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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macky17 said:
Question is, how did he ever fit in the driver's seat? Isn't he 6-6 or something? I'm 6-4 and don't even get close.
The only possible way would be with a bespoke seat which I guess is pretty feasible. I'm 5'11 on a good day and I can't sit up straight in it with a lid on.

Augustus Windsock

3,803 posts

185 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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POA; No Michael, that was so not right…!
Hate POA ads, if I had my way they’d be banned.
Other than the price, I love it
There’s a guy got one in a tiny village near me in Derbyste, see it quite often during summer months, probably bought for £0.5m or less as he’s had it years, what an investment, and one that is driven rather than just pampered

pquinn

7,167 posts

76 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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2 GKC said:
Do the Hartleys pay you to keep promoting their cars?
It's not like they can't just rely on their lovely reputation to draw the punters is it?

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

199 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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pquinn said:
2 GKC said:
Do the Hartleys pay you to keep promoting their cars?
It's not like they can't just rely on their lovely reputation to draw the punters is it?
SSSHHHHHH don't name them - you'll get censored/banned! eek

JohnnyUK

1,125 posts

108 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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pquinn said:
2 GKC said:
Do the Hartleys pay you to keep promoting their cars?
It's not like they can't just rely on their lovely reputation to draw the punters is it?
Are they "difficult" then?

Amanitin

545 posts

167 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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leef44 said:
The reason they are so expensive is because if you have Chris Harris level of driving skill and you can hire out a track with no limits just for your single car driving pleasure then you can have fun with it.
I'm afraid that is absolutely not the reason they are so expensive.

Baddie

807 posts

247 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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In terms of build and finish, it’s worth remembering Nicola Materazzi’s team spent only 13 months making this a road-legal version of the GTO Evoluzione, which was unable to race when Group B got banned. If you see photos of them side by side, the similarity is striking, down to every vent being in the same place and the reinforcing composite being similar.

Gordon Murray dismissed it as “marketing bit of Kevlar”, but the markets weren’t buying the GTO Evoluzione. The F40 is ropey in places, but it was derived from a genuine race car project. They also hammered it around Nardo, having driven there, averaging 150 mph for a week, and 187 for 48 hours. It was very thoroughly developed by a pedigree team. Murray later conceded that its steering is “magic”.