Hedge cut without my permission - criminal damage?
Hedge cut without my permission - criminal damage?
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Lungauer

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316 posts

175 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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I live next door to a farm run by a sociopath. In this small rural hamlet none of the few neighbours will have anything to do with him as he has upset everyone at some point or another and he continues to do so. He seems to thrive on confrontation.

In the first five or so years of us moving here all was fine, but after three inconsiderate building projects (we’re talking double height steel sheds of aircraft hanger size passed as permissive development after bent applications, seemingly positioned to cause maximum inconvenience to the residencies nearby) I had enough and wrote to the local authority expressing my displeasure. He managed to get a copy of my letter and since then he has become abusive and threatening.

On Sunday we returned from a week away to discover he has taken his hedge cutter (the sort attached to a tractor which flails the hedges) to our laurel hedge and reduced its depth (but not its height) considerably. Surely he is not allowed to do this without permission? Any legal experts able to give me some steerage before I escalate matters? For clarity the laurel hedge borders a narrow lane, on the other side of which his farm lies.

rlw

3,554 posts

260 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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FFS.

Grumps.

17,109 posts

59 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Lungauer said:
I live next door to a farm run by a sociopath. In this small rural hamlet none of the few neighbours will have anything to do with him as he has upset everyone at some point or another and he continues to do so. He seems to thrive on confrontation.

In the first five or so years of us moving here all was fine, but after three inconsiderate building projects (we’re talking double height steel sheds of aircraft hanger size passed as permissive development after bent applications, seemingly positioned to cause maximum inconvenience to the residencies nearby) I had enough and wrote to the local authority expressing my displeasure. He managed to get a copy of my letter and since then he has become abusive and threatening.

On Sunday we returned from a week away to discover he has taken his hedge cutter (the sort attached to a tractor which flails the hedges) to our laurel hedge and reduced its depth (but not its height) considerably. Surely he is not allowed to do this without permission? Any legal experts able to give me some steerage before I escalate matters? For clarity the laurel hedge borders a narrow lane, on the other side of which his farm lies.
did he cut the hedge on your side or his?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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We need photos?

anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Would anyone else be tempted to see what happened if you went round with a bottle of wine and thanked him for trimming the hedge as it was a mess, and ask if he minds doing it regularly....

Ham_and_Jam

3,388 posts

120 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Someone cuts your hedge, without asking, for free.

OP, I’ll glady pass my details on to give to your neighbour.

QJumper

3,238 posts

49 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Surely if it's on the lane side then he's done you a favour, and to make a thing of it would just seem like tit for tat.

I guess you could check with a lawyer, if you want to hedge your bets smile

OutInTheShed

13,021 posts

49 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Was the hedge growing beyond your boundary?

Farmers often cut hedges on behalf of the council.
If your hedge was encroaching on the lane, you don't have a lot to moan about.

If he's cut within your boundary, then you may have a genuine complaint, but it's not unusual for council contractors to push back vegetation beyond the edge of a lane, particularly if the owner of the hedge is not pro-active in trimming it.

Hol

9,254 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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JimSuperSix said:
Would anyone else be tempted to see what happened if you went round with a bottle of wine and thanked him for trimming the hedge as it was a mess, and ask if he minds doing it regularly....
No.

Hol

9,254 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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QJumper said:
Surely if it's on the lane side then he's done you a favour, and to make a thing of it would just seem like tit for tat.

I guess you could check with a lawyer, if you want to hedge your bets smile
My barometer would also be to see if the hedge looked the same on my side, then don’t even acknowledge it.

If the guy is as connected to the council as you say, then you need to act more coldly.

LordBretSinclair

4,306 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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QJumper said:
I guess you could check with a lawyer..........
What a brilliant idea.
All the armchair experts on here could then have a day off laugh

Lungauer

Original Poster:

316 posts

175 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Thanks for the comments and I get the derision, I really do, and a hedge cut for nothing would be great in the normal course of events, however given the level of hatred he seems to have I can’t imagine he did it out of largesse.

I had trimmed the hedge back well beyond the edge of the verge it sits on in the autumn, at his request, and it was not encroaching on to the lane. I think it was done to antagonise (which it has clearly done), but perhaps rather than rise to the bait perhaps it would be more effective to thank him for saving me more trouble.



Grumps.

17,109 posts

59 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Lungauer said:
... but perhaps rather than rise to the bait perhaps it would be more effective to thank him for saving me more trouble.
This would annoy him even more, so go for it!


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Fozziebear

1,840 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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You could always put some solid bars along your boundary and hedge to give him something to hit if he does it again, Personally id not even acknowledge it and wave each time he passes, at some point a nutter will deal with him

Steve H

6,881 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Fozziebear said:
You could always put some solid bars along your boundary and hedge to give him something to hit if he does it again, Personally id not even acknowledge it and wave each time he passes, at some point a nutter will deal with him
OP, this is the answer you are looking for.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

58 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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JimSuperSix said:
Would anyone else be tempted to see what happened if you went round with a bottle of wine and thanked him for trimming the hedge as it was a mess, and ask if he minds doing it regularly....
That would be funny

V8covin

9,347 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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There's hedges between my neighbour's and my gardens.
I cut my side,they cut theirs.
I don't see why you're upset

gt_12345

1,873 posts

58 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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V8covin said:
There's hedges between my neighbour's and my gardens.
I cut my side,they cut theirs.
I don't see why you're upset
I assume he didn't just trim it, but halved it.

BoRED S2upid

20,977 posts

263 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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I’d be having a word with the council as well about their GDPR policy and sharing your letter. This is more of an issue that the illegal hedge trimming.

V8covin

9,347 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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gt_12345 said:
I assume he didn't just trim it, but halved it.
My neighbour did that last year,makes the top quicker to cut which is a bonus as it's usually me who does it
Didn't ask my permission but again,not an issue.
Some people just looking for a reason to fall out