Caught at 104mph, new driver

[tight fart]

You should get a ban and have to retake your test, you won’t get a criminal record, your employer will think you’re a tt.

[M4cruiser]

104mph isn't exactly a "mistake".
Did you really think you were just a shade over 70mph?

[Getragdogleg]

gulagjamun said:

I was caught at 104mph on the motorway. Sadly, I'm in the new driver period. Silly mistake.

Got an Single Justice Procedure Notice - SJPN for Speeding, any idea of the outcome? I hope I keep my licence.

Also, will this appear on my criminal record? I'm worried that employers will see this, I work in the accounting and finance field. Will they care if I have to declare? Thanks.

Well done, when you get your licence back after your ban and retest you need to work on your observation. Maybe slow down a bit so the next time its not in insta-ban territory !

[Dingu]

I would be surprised if there wasn’t a ban and/or 6 points leading to needing to pass a test involved. Naturally for you a ban is likely a better outcome if it is an option.

Can’t imagine you would need to tell your employer assuming you don’t drive for work.

[Rough101]

Minimum is six points so as a new driver your licence will be revoked.

Fines are around 1.5 times your weekly wage and it is a criminal conviction, the latter only being an issue if you are planning to change jobs before its spent, which is up to five years.

[832ark]

It won’t be a ban but sufficient points to trigger the licence revocation and retest. Presumably you’ll be able to take your test again ASAP assuming you can get a slot.

[helix402]

tight fart said:

You should get a ban and have to retake your test, you won’t get a criminal record, your employer will think you’re a tt.

This is correct, apart from the employer part. Who knows what they’ll think. As always in life-we all make mistakes, we learn and move on.

[Bobberoo]

I hate to say this but, 104 as a new driver is beyond "silly mistake" territory.
It will be a ban, points on your licence and retake your test.
This will impact your life for some years to come, but as others have said, shouldn't bother your employer.

[Heaveho]

I'm not one of the ' what the fk were you thinking " brigade. Hope things work out for you.

[sherbertdip]

I don't think chiding the OP is being constructive, he knows he did wrong, he knows when he was doing it was wrong, he's been caught and will pay the price and move on, there are very few of us who haven't gone for it some point, I consider myself to be most of the time a safe and boring driver now (I'm over 60), but I've certainly had my moments of madness, and still do, thankfully never being caught.

Calling it a "silly mistake" is I think the OP's way of trying to be billy big balls, but in a jokey way.

OP, just learn from this, keep safe, keep others safe and when you go for it in the future as you probably will just have it in the back of your mind that actions can have consequences, sometimes a lot worse than a fine or a ban.

I have no knowledge of what will happen to you without "googling" as can you, but others have responded.

[paddy1970]

Next time, use Waze so you can peacefully drive over the speed limit...

[agtlaw]

gulagjamun said:

I was caught at 104mph on the motorway. Sadly, I'm in the new driver period. Silly mistake.

Got an Single Justice Procedure Notice - SJPN for Speeding, any idea of the outcome? I hope I keep my licence.

Also, will this appear on my criminal record? I'm worried that employers will see this, I work in the accounting and finance field. Will they care if I have to declare? Thanks.

You need to get out of the Single Justice Procedure. If you accept the offence then the appropriate plea is guilty, I want to attend court.

Being realistic and having regard to the MCSG, one of two things will happen:

1) 6 penalty points, fine, costs, surcharge. In which case, DVLA will revoke your licence - meaning you will have to apply for a provisional licence and redo the theory test, and take a retest.

Or;

2) Discretionary disqualification, fine, costs, surcharge. In which case, you simply drive again when the ban expires. Ban 56+ days would mean applying for a new licence, but no retest.

If you plead guilty at the first opportunity then the typical fine is 1x net weekly income. However, the maximum fine is £2500 and they shouldn’t go higher than 75% of the maximum.

Speeding is a criminal offence. However, it is not a recordable offence. A convicted offender would not have a criminal record, but DVLA records the outcome. The conviction is not recorded on the Police National Computer as a criminal conviction.

[agtlaw]

Rough101 said:

Minimum is six points so as a new driver your licence will be revoked.

Fines are around 1.5 times your weekly wage and it is a criminal conviction, the latter only being an issue if you are planning to change jobs before its spent, which is up to five years.

Wrong.

[Fore Left]

paddy1970 said:

Next time, use Waze so you can peacefully drive over the speed limit...

As long as someone ahead of you using Waze spotted the police car / camera van and reported it...

[QBee]

Gulagman - I strongly advise you to follow the advice of agtlaw above - he is our resident expert and you have just received the correct legal advice.

As for telling your employer, that depends on whether you need to drive to get to work or to get to clients. The above advice from agtlaw seems to suggest that telling them is optional.

Once you are out the other side, I wish you good luck in your career. I too am an accountant, and was banned for 108 on a motorway back when I was 29. A month of my wife driving us everywhere was a suitable punishment to make me think twice before doing it again. On a more positive note, she showed me what it felt like to be my passenger. I was driving everywhere too fast and leaving my braking a la Lewis Hamilton, ie at the last possible moment.

[Bobberoo]

agtlaw said:

gulagjamun said:

I was caught at 104mph on the motorway. Sadly, I'm in the new driver period. Silly mistake.

Got an Single Justice Procedure Notice - SJPN for Speeding, any idea of the outcome? I hope I keep my licence.

Also, will this appear on my criminal record? I'm worried that employers will see this, I work in the accounting and finance field. Will they care if I have to declare? Thanks.

You need to get out of the Single Justice Procedure. If you accept the offence then the appropriate plea is guilty, I want to attend court.

Being realistic and having regard to the MCSG, one of two things will happen:

1) 6 penalty points, fine, costs, surcharge. In which case, DVLA will revoke your licence - meaning you will have to apply for a provisional licence and redo the theory test, and take a retest.

Or;

2) Discretionary disqualification, fine, costs, surcharge. In which case, you simply drive again when the ban expires. Ban 56+ days would mean applying for a new licence, but no retest.

If you plead guilty at the first opportunity then the typical fine is 1x net weekly income. However, the maximum fine is £2500 and they shouldn’t go higher than 75% of the maximum.

Speeding is a criminal offence. However, it is not a recordable offence. A convicted offender would not have a criminal record, but DVLA records the outcome. The conviction is not recorded on the Police National Computer as a criminal conviction.

Thanks for a clear answer agtlaw, take note gulagjamun, this is from a well respected solicitor specialising in these things.

[Turkish91]

agtlaw said:

You need to get out of the Single Justice Procedure. If you accept the offence then the appropriate plea is guilty, I want to attend court.

Being realistic and having regard to the MCSG, one of two things will happen:

1) 6 penalty points, fine, costs, surcharge. In which case, DVLA will revoke your licence - meaning you will have to apply for a provisional licence and redo the theory test, and take a retest.

Or;

2) Discretionary disqualification, fine, costs, surcharge. In which case, you simply drive again when the ban expires. Ban 56+ days would mean applying for a new licence, but no retest.

If you plead guilty at the first opportunity then the typical fine is 1x net weekly income. However, the maximum fine is £2500 and they shouldn’t go higher than 75% of the maximum.

Speeding is a criminal offence. However, it is not a recordable offence. A convicted offender would not have a criminal record, but DVLA records the outcome. The conviction is not recorded on the Police National Computer as a criminal conviction.

I imagine some of the responses on these type of threads irritates you to no end, but as ever, a superb reply.

[surveyor_101]

Turkish91 said:

I imagine some of the responses on these type of threads irritates you to no end, but as ever, a superb reply.

Yes, its a bit why did you go so fast on a petrolhead forum!

AGT

What's more common, speaking to a JP they are guided to go down the 6 -9 points route so the driver loses their full licence and has to start again with provisional.

I believe the 2 year probation period was brought in specifically to take away the full driving entitlement in such cases the driver has shown disregard for the privilege.

I was no angel at 17-18 but given how hard it is to get tests you think some people would be keen to hang out to a full licence.

[_Rodders_]

gulagjamun said:

I was caught at 104mph on the motorway. Sadly, I'm in the new driver period. Silly mistake.

Got an Single Justice Procedure Notice - SJPN for Speeding, any idea of the outcome? I hope I keep my licence.

Also, will this appear on my criminal record? I'm worried that employers will see this, I work in the accounting and finance field. Will they care if I have to declare? Thanks.

Atleast it wasn't your mate.

I'd be amazed if you don't lose your license for that.

How were you caught?

[tight fart]

_Rodders_ said:

How were you caught?

Not paying attention.