Porsche extended warranty on a non franchised purchase

[T5GRF]

I think I’m right in saying that a one or two year warranty can be purchased for a used car subject to a 111 point inspection at a main franchised dealer depending on the car being less than 15 years old at the warranty expiry. However can a car with a non Porsche service history qualify for this subject to an inspection?

[randlemarcus]

Yes. I have in the past used a 111 point inspection as part of pre-purchase checks, as anything non-standard is likely to be highlighted, to help you make an informed decision. Non-N-rated tyres, probably fine, non-standard exhaust, less so. Your mileage may vary. The warranty covers cars up to 15, so if it's just before its 14th birthday, you can get one year cover, if that makes sense?

[elisered]

T5GRF said:

I think I’m right in saying that a one or two year warranty can be purchased for a used car subject to a 111 point inspection at a main franchised dealer depending on the car being less than 15 years old at the warranty expiry. However can a car with a non Porsche service history qualify for this subject to an inspection?

The immediately preceding service has to be at an OPC. I think there is something like a 45 day period of ownership required too before you can cover the car.

[T5GRF]

Thanks - just looked at a Boxster for my wife that’s got 2 Porsche main dealer services but the most recent two are from a standard non specialist or Franchised garage so I guess the extended warranty is an option on that particular car

[Pope]

To initiate a Warranty you need:

- 90 day ownership
- Last service must be a major so a 40k with additionals as necessary

[981Boxess]

If someone else hasn't already mentioned it it is probably worth pointing out that to stay in the warranty loop you are then commited to OPC servicing costs, they know how to charge, but then it is only a 2 year service interval. I weighed it all up and decided it was worth the money for the warranty/servicing to me for some extra peace of mind, mine being a PDK swung it.
It is also worth keeping in mind that when it comes to resell the car being in the warranty loop will be a plus to some buyers.

I note you have a TVR history, also been there, Porsche ownership is not the same there is nothing cheap on these cars if it goes bang.

[Armitage.Shanks]

randlemarcus said:

Non-N-rated tyres, probably fine

I'd be careful with that one and it depends how 'flexible' OPC is. The 'approved warranty' is essentially an insurance policy that has conditions of acceptance attached to it. N rated tyres is a condition of purchase and this is picked up at the 111-point check for warranty.

If down the line you end up swapping tyres for non N-rated and have a warranty claim and the claim is not related to the tyres then you may get away with it. A non approved Porsche battery is the other 'chestnut' where you end up paying £300+ for what is a Banner battery with a Porsche label

[randlemarcus]

Armitage.Shanks said:

randlemarcus said:

Non-N-rated tyres, probably fine

I'd be careful with that one and it depends how 'flexible' OPC is. The 'approved warranty' is essentially an insurance policy that has conditions of acceptance attached to it. N rated tyres is a condition of purchase and this is picked up at the 111-point check for warranty.

If down the line you end up swapping tyres for non N-rated and have a warranty claim and the claim is not related to the tyres then you may get away with it. A non approved Porsche battery is the other 'chestnut' where you end up paying £300+ for what is a Banner battery with a Porsche label

Agreed, and I wasn't clear enough, that if non N-rated tyres were flagged up in the 111 point, that wouldn't put me off the purchase, as I would have the three months to worry about replacing them, same as the warranty "quirks" like grille guards etc. If large ticket items like an exhaust were flagged, that would put me off. We won't mention the differing levels of attention paid to (presumably) PIWIS readouts, and non-functional rear washers (where there is no rear wiper on the dratted car)

[T5GRF]

Thanks for the advice all, I’ve bought the car tonight, collect it tomorrow. On balance I think I’ll end up using an independent specialist for servicing etc.
I’ve got a choice of 2 near me - Friends Green Porsche or Renn Works.

[nixB10]

I am in a similar position having recently purchased a 2013 Panamera diesel with 64k miles and a full Porsche history. Do I pay out £2100 for a 2 year warranty plus £250 for the 111 point check or just put that money aside for any future issues? Its my first Porsche and I'm struggling to decide.

Edited by nixB10 on Tuesday 14th February 16:18

[Armitage.Shanks]

nixB10 said:

I am in a similar position having recently purchased a 2013 Panamera diesel with 64k miles and a full Porsche history. Do I pay out £2100 for a 2 year warranty plus £250 for the 111 point check or just put that money aside for any future issues? Its my first Porsche and I'm struggling to decide.

Personally I wouldn't as the Panemera diesel is fairly bulletproof. That said my pal has a 2012 Pan Diesel that he runs with OPC warranty. He's had two new heater matrix and various other parts attended to under warranty. His latest is an engine oil leak (could this be the troubled seal between engine and gearbox that afflicts the Cayenne 3.0D?). Its a £5k fix if no warranty and they'll have it 3 weeks. Car is on 110k. Overall from the warranty costs with this latest he reckons its paid dividends for him.

[sasha320]

By virtue of the insurance companies’ access to historic warranty claim and maintenance data; they will have the most accurate prediction on whether the policy will be worth it.

On average you will ‘lose’ against the cost of the warranty by the amount of their profit margin plus the costs of operating the warranty.

You might ‘get lucky’ and make claims in excess of what you paid or be unfortunate and make fewer claims.

My point being - it is the delta between what you paid and what you claimed that is the cost of your peace of mind.

If the ‘peace of mind’ nett cost is say 30% to 40% of the cost of the warranty AND it gives you cover for a ‘never event’ like an engine blowing up (£15k to £50k) then I wouldn’t and don’t hesitate in taking out these ‘manufacturer’ warranties.

[Cheib]

nixB10 said:

I am in a similar position having recently purchased a 2013 Panamera diesel with 64k miles and a full Porsche history. Do I pay out £2100 for a 2 year warranty plus £250 for the 111 point check or just put that money aside for any future issues? Its my first Porsche and I'm struggling to decide.

Edited by nixB10 on Tuesday 14th February 16:18

Depends on your mileage ? I’ve got a Cayenne Diesel which does 20k miles a year. Warranty is very good value in that context in my opinion. You don’t need much to need looking at to have a £1k bill on one of these cars.

[Browter]

randlemarcus said:

Yes. I have in the past used a 111 point inspection as part of pre-purchase checks, as anything non-standard is likely to be highlighted, to help you make an informed decision.

What arrangement did you make with the seller, did you pay for the inspection and they held the car for you until you got the results? I'm assuming the car has to be taken to a Porsche dealer, so what is the lead time generally on getting it in and having the inspection?

Also how long is the inspection valid for if you then wanted to take out an extended Porsche warranty?

[randlemarcus]

Browter said:

What arrangement did you make with the seller, did you pay for the inspection and they held the car for you until you got the results? I'm assuming the car has to be taken to a Porsche dealer, so what is the lead time generally on getting it in and having the inspection?

Also how long is the inspection valid for if you then wanted to take out an extended Porsche warranty?

Both times, I asked the dealers to arrange it with their local OPC, I paid,and it took a couple of days. Refusal would have meant no sale. Things may be different now, but it's a short job for the OPC,and gives you a good idea of the state of the car,and perhaps a bargaining position.

Validity is an interesting one, as it's instantly done. I suspect if buying from a private seller, there's a way to buy the warranty, though I think they might have closed the buyer warrants it,and you inherit loophole. Buying a trade car, you have to wait 90 days, so perhaps don't rely on the Bradford after sales

[Browter]

randlemarcus said:

Both times, I asked the dealers to arrange it with their local OPC, I paid,and it took a couple of days. Refusal would have meant no sale. Things may be different now, but it's a short job for the OPC,and gives you a good idea of the state of the car,and perhaps a bargaining position.

Validity is an interesting one, as it's instantly done. I suspect if buying from a private seller, there's a way to buy the warranty, though I think they might have closed the buyer warrants it,and you inherit loophole. Buying a trade car, you have to wait 90 days, so perhaps don't rely on the Bradford after sales

Thanks. The Porsche GB site does still say a warranty is transferrable in a private sale, so I guess it could be agreed the seller takes it out and transfers it with the cost added to the sale.