RE: Motorshow: Invicta S1
RE: Motorshow: Invicta S1
Tuesday 22nd October 2002

Motorshow: Invicta S1

The motoring world's best kept secret


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B10

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1,359 posts

287 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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Very similar to the new MG, AC ACE, Jensen all sharing the same engine at similar prices. Is the market big enough? I hope it is??

fizz

251 posts

290 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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I read safety and Ford V8 and wonder if they figured the Invicta will be able to be sold world wide.

I'm in the USA and would gladly order one!

I have mentioned this before, but I think the key to success is to engineer the cars to world safety and emission standards so that when the local economy is down, there are other places to fish for customers!

jamesc

2,820 posts

304 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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The car is too expensive and I am afraid won't sell. The best car in that hall has to be the FBS and that too is far too expensive. The best low volume car the DARE G4 is not here. What a shame.

PetrolTed

34,461 posts

323 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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jamesc said:The best car in that hall has to be the FBS.




Innotech

26 posts

303 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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no, Im fairly certain this is the best Well for me anyway. The tuscan T440R looks yummy as well.

shok

133 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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Good to see Leigh Adams putting his talent to good use again - this car looks great. Might be a little low on power for the money but the Ford V8 should give it good reliability.

jamesc

2,820 posts

304 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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I think the Invicta should be priced at just under £40,000. FBS looked good because they were right opposite Ginetta. I like the FBS and I spoke to the 2 owners of the cars. They were both well pleased with their cars. Anyway I have placed a deposit on a Smart Coupe and I am well pleased. Can't wait till March.

James

geofflowe

1,717 posts

299 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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Wasn't Chris Marsh going to unveil something new?

Farmer

1,287 posts

294 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Er... Peter Stevens and MG...are you munching your own hearts yet ?

not sure about the sills but will give them the benefit of the doubt , bit like a Z8 with a roof .
Nice

RichB

54,989 posts

304 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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jamesc said: Anyway I have placed a deposit on a Smart Coupe and I am well pleased. Can't wait till March. James
I only hope for yor sake it has a different gearbox to the normal Smart. The one I drove takes until tomorrow to change gear! Rich...

james

1,362 posts

304 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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I thought that the S1 was the car of the show. Very nice looking, and the switchgear wasn't all borrowed from the Ford or Vauxhall parts bin. Definitely worth considering if you're looking for a car in that market.

I notice that JamesC liked the FBS. I can only assume that there are 2 companies called FBS, because the one I saw was the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen at a motor show. Appart from the car looking like it had been carved from cheese by a blind man using a knife and fork, the "show car" even had a flat tyre

James

GregE240

10,857 posts

287 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Everyone who has sprung to the defence of the FBS car before has said "Wait until you see it in the flesh". Well, I did yesterday and I'm afraid I have the following points to make. Delete as applicable:

1 - PC comment. It's not profoundly gorgeous.

2 - Un-PC comment. It's fcuking horrible. I'd be embarassed to be seen out in it.

DISCLAIMER: I have nothing but respect for the makers of this car to build a sportscar from the ground up. It takes vision, and no doubt spadefuls of determination. But compared to what it's up against, pretty it is not.

sjc

15,473 posts

290 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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GregE240 said: Everyone who has sprung to the defence of the FBS car before has said "Wait until you see it in the flesh". Well, I did yesterday and I'm afraid I have the following points to make. Delete as applicable:

1 - PC comment. It's not profoundly gorgeous.

2 - Un-PC comment. It's fcuking horrible. I'd be embarassed to be seen out in it.

DISCLAIMER: I have nothing but respect for the makers of this car to build a sportscar from the ground up. It takes vision, and no doubt spadefuls of determination. But compared to what it's up against, pretty it is not.




Exactly

stuh

2,557 posts

293 months

Sunday 27th October 2002
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Wasn't expecting much from the Invicta but happened to pass it en-route to the Noble stand. Thought it looked absolutely stunning ! Fantastic styling job with superb attention to detail (wing mirrors, interior trim, switch gear etc). Reminds me of a more contemporary aston martin. Power does appear a little low but spoke with the guy on the stand and he said that a supercharge option (circa 500bhp) would be available sometime down the line. Arranged for a test drive early next year. I think it will sell well.

FBS - Your aving a laugh

torqemada

168 posts

286 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Yes the car looks stunning, but I sat in it on Thursday, now remember this is supposed to be the ready to drive, fully sorted, lets keep it a secret 'till we're ready, don't wan't to dissapoint the public version. The interior was shoddy, broken, too many cheap plastics that were too thin; trimming around glazing units needs sorting, need I go on? Reminds me of (paraphrasing)
"nice to handle, lovely to hold,
make more like this and they'll never be sold".

plotloss

67,280 posts

290 months

Monday 28th October 2002
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Lovely looking car, but they have definately won the 2002 - Worst Car Badge Of The Year award. Its fcuking horrible! If I was spending £70K on a car I certaintly wouldnt want a psychedelic moth on the front of it.

Matt.

kevinday

13,594 posts

300 months

Tuesday 29th October 2002
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Looks stunning (even the psychedelic moth), but, priced too high to sell. Needs to be in the 40-50K area I reckon.

joe90

140 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th October 2002
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Don't have time to join all the discussions but I cannot let the nonsense posted by James stand. The tyre pressures on the cars on the stand are correct. Either he was loooking at something else or he's just plain wrong.

Back next week.

Joe

james

1,362 posts

304 months

Tuesday 29th October 2002
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So it's designed to have a flat then. Must make handling interesting.

I assume that the finger prints in the sealant round all of the windows was there for aerodynamic reasons too.

Still looks like it's been beaten with the ugly stick though. I can't understand why people put all of that effort into designing a car (I assume it has been designed), and make it look so fugly.

James (the one who thinks the FBS won the award for "crappiest looking car at the show", not the one who loved it, but ordered a Smart car).

RichB

54,989 posts

304 months

Tuesday 29th October 2002
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james said: ...Still looks like it's been beaten with the ugly stick though. etc. etc. James ... ordered a Smart car).
James, I'm no great fan of the FBS shape but I notice you did'nt respond to my post about the Smart gearbox. Have you actually driven one (a Smart that is 'cos I assume there are no coupe demo cars) that gearbox did it in for me after about 3/4 mile - shame 'cos I really wanted to like it, but it was shite! Rich... p.s. my 17y old son borrowed one or a few days.



>> Edited by RichB on Tuesday 29th October 15:48