RE: Wraps come off the 345hp Mazda CX-90
RE: Wraps come off the 345hp Mazda CX-90
Tuesday 31st January 2023

Wraps come off the 345hp Mazda CX-90

You've got to love Mazda's willingness to go its own way...


You’ve got to hand it to Mazda: it likes to go its own way. While the rest of the car world is busy chasing Tesla and reinventing themselves as electric-only brands, the Japanese company doesn’t seem too bothered by all the hype. Leave aside electrification for a moment, Mazda is still merrily churning out naturally aspirated petrol engines, in a world where turbos have been the norm for decades.

The only EV it has produced to date was the seemingly hastily cobbled-together MX-30. With the battery range of a worn-out milk float, unsurprisingly, that hasn’t upset the apple cart just yet. To help alleviate the MX-30’s range issues, it’s bringing out a range extender to extend its appeal. It’s called the e-Skyactiv R-EV, but, once again, there’s a twist. The extended range isn’t delivered by a frugal triple.

Oh no, as you might have heard, Mazda is bringing back the rotary engine ­– an engine famed for its frugality, of course. Or not. In the MX-30 R-EV, we’re talking about an 830cc rotary producing 75hp and fed from a 50-litre fuel tank. The petrol engine is just there to charge the battery and isn’t connected to the wheels, which means it’s able to run at its most efficient revs, yet it’s claimed to offer around 350 miles on top of the battery’s 53-mile range. By my maths, that means it’s averaging just over 30mpg. Hmm...

The MX-30 e-Skyactiv R-EV is definitely coming to Europe, but there’s still a question mark over whether it’ll appear in the US. Meanwhile, on that side of the pond, Mazda has just pulled the covers off its latest project: the CX-90. You might think this is a re-badged CX-9, but it isn't. The CX-9 that's coming to the UK is based around a transverse-mounted, 2.5-litre turbocharged petrol. In the CX-90, the engine's mounted longitudinally, so it can accommodate an all-new, 3.3-litre six-cylinder turbo petrol – you couldn’t make this stuff up. This will have 345hp and a 48-volt mild hybrid system, although there will be a PHEV option, using a version of the 2.5-litre inline four hooked up to a motor and 17.8kWh battery.

As 2013 as all that lot sounds, the truth is I'm glad Mazda is still plugging away at stuff that doesn’t necessarily plug in. Let's just hope the firm isn’t so wedded to its old-school ways that it ends up being left behind, or worse still, left for dead in a ditch by the time it realises the world has changed. And the new CX-90 does show off Mazda’s talents in the styling department, both inside and out. For a large, seven-seat SUV, it doesn't just hide its bulk well, it is truly elegant. It's the same is true inside, with the pictures revealing a rich palette of materials that would appear to make this a very calming and relaxing place to be.

All that picking holes in Mazda's range is only jealousy, by the way. I am jealous that it's the Yanks that'll get a lovely six-cylinder motor and we don't. Apart from the 3.3-litre straight-six diesel that'll debut in the CX-60 this year, of course. Classic. 


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Ray_Aber

Original Poster:

950 posts

306 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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The exterior is better proportioned than the gawky CX60, and that colour is gorgeous. Deep, lustrous, classy.

The interior, however, is beautiful. Mazda are really nailing their interior styling, and if the build quality of this one is anything like the majority of its cars,it's going to back up the promise with real integrity and quality fit.

The engines? Mazda are all over the place! I applaud their support of the wankel engine, though. Maybe with improving materials technology....?

jorders500

229 posts

119 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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You’ve got to give it to Mazda. Everyone else is putting eco this and hybrid that on their cars. Mazda proudly stick a badge that says Inline 6 on theirs.

Definitely the most interesting mainstream car manufacturer at the moment.

I love the way they think differently.

Edited by jorders500 on Tuesday 31st January 18:08

2Btoo

3,821 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Ray_Aber said:
... that colour is gorgeous. Deep, lustrous, classy.
What is it about Mazda paint? Their colours are beautiful (that red particularly), the shine seems more brilliant than on other cars and it's always as smooth as glass.

Do Mazda use different paint tech to other people? Or do they put more time and effort into the painting process on their production line? (Or am I imagining things?)

GreatScott2016

2,549 posts

118 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Nice looking old Hector.

jorders500

229 posts

119 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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No, you’re not imagining it. Mazda quality is the equal of brands like BMW and Mercedes and better than VW. My Golf GTI had chrome tail pipes that corroded after one winter. My MX5 has a full stainless system as standard and there isn’t a hint of corrosion anywhere on it.

Bright Halo

3,990 posts

265 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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For an SUV that is stunning!

samoht

7,287 posts

176 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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2Btoo said:
What is it about Mazda paint? Their colours are beautiful (that red particularly), the shine seems more brilliant than on other cars and it's always as smooth as glass.

Do Mazda use different paint tech to other people? Or do they put more time and effort into the painting process on their production line? (Or am I imagining things?)
Hopefully the images come through (from the exhibition at Mazda HQ, Hiroshima):



two identical panels, to show the difference that paint makes:


Edited by samoht on Tuesday 31st January 18:33

only1ian

737 posts

224 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Mazda are onto something here! There is a sizeable proportion of the world and even the UK that either doesn’t believe, want or cannot do what they require with an EV. The more other manufacturers ignore this fact the bigger a market Mazda has and with recent revelations about electric vehicles being more expensive to run than ICE cars that will only increase. If Mazda invested in hydrogen and skipped EV entirely they might secure their future very cleverly!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Bright Halo said:
For an SUV that is stunning!
It's a nice red and the interior looks way above your average or normal Mazda.

It looks ok, but really just an estate car shape, with deeper doors/bumpers. I wouldn't exactly say stunning or head turner. Nothing wrong with it, but quite ordinary looking really on the outside.

cognac1979

107 posts

131 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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I really like Mazdas attitude and styling. I was going to buy a used Mazda 6 2.2 diesel but was put off by the many local owners who had engine issues. DPF's, injectors, egr valves. All with big bills to rectify.

cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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That is handsome.

seabod91

1,139 posts

92 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Love the look of that

disad-vantage-d

837 posts

250 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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2Btoo said:
What is it about Mazda paint? Their colours are beautiful (that red particularly), the shine seems more brilliant than on other cars and it's always as smooth as glass.

Do Mazda use different paint tech to other people? Or do they put more time and effort into the painting process on their production line? (Or am I imagining things?)
https://www.mazda.com/en/innovation/mazda-stories/engineers/soulred/

VeeReihenmotor6

2,568 posts

205 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Mazda are doing great things and easily (in my eyes) the best styled cars out of the far east and better than many of the European offerings too.

Shame we are not getting the petrol inline 6 but the diesel is fairly interesting I suppose. Who else is offering straight sixes in nicely desgined vehicles (bmw - not anymore).

I've never owned a Mazda but can see it happening. My Grandad swore by them having one of the first Mazda's imported in the 70s followed by a load of Mazda 626's, Xedos and later 6s. My Grandma had the 323s and equivalents and I always remember being excited about the massive rear wing on her 3 door, red 323 (I was only 8 at the time so perhaps massive is the wrong word).

ducnick

2,277 posts

273 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Looks lovely. Resembles a Volvo xc90… but with a better engine mounted the right way round!!!
Dare I say it, but it also appears to have physical buttons!
Bring it to the U.K. pls.



Edited by ducnick on Tuesday 31st January 19:14

Mikebentley

8,667 posts

170 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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I’ve long thought the Mazda Soul Red and the metallic Grey colour are two of the best colours on any car out there. The finish is superb and when I looked at the Mazda 3 I thought the interiors were fantastic.

rallye101

2,517 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Mikebentley said:
I’ve long thought the Mazda Soul Red and the metallic Grey colour are two of the best colours on any car out there. The finish is superb and when I looked at the Mazda 3 I thought the interiors were fantastic.
R
Agree, really nice...Will the road tax be rather large if its a 3.3l?

Firebobby

1,002 posts

69 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Huge ugly looking thing isn't it? You'd really have to be a fan of the mark to choose that over an Audi, BMW, Merc, or Volvo!

SpeckledJim

34,276 posts

283 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Nice car. Crap photography.

wistec1

801 posts

71 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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jorders500 said:
You’ve got to give it to Mazda. Everyone else is putting eco this and hybrid that on their cars. Mazda proudly stick a badge that says Inline 6 on theirs.

Definitely the most interesting mainstream car manufacturer at the moment.

I love the way they think differently.

Couldn't Agree more. 👍

Edited by jorders500 on Tuesday 31st January 18:08