Aircraft range

[andyA700]

Just looking at FR, and an Embraer 135 has just landed at Biggin Hill from Newark, New York, which is approx 3,500 miles away. How is that possible, when the range of an E135 is 1750 miles?

Aircraft in question D-AIRG

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAIRG

[Eric Mc]

Ferry tanks?

Refuel at Gander/Iceland/Shannon/Prestwick?

[RedWhiteMonkey]

andyA700 said:

Just looking at FR, and an Embraer 135 has just landed at Biggin Hill from Newark, New York, which is approx 3,500 miles away. How is that possible, when the range of an E135 is 1750 miles?

Aircraft in question D-AIRG

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAIRG

Flat Earth, wake up sheeple.

[RobbyJ]

It's a Legacy 650E private jet based on the 135 airframe. More fuel tanks, more range, less useable weight.

Maximum Range
3980 nm
Payload - Full Fuel LBS
1909 lb
Seats (Executive)
13
Long Range Cruise
425 Ktas

[trashbat]

It's a 650E and it's got a range of 3,900nm. New York to London is about 3,500nm.

Edit: too slow!

[parabolica]

That's quite an interesting flight history for just the last 2 weeks; looks like it's been all around the world.

[peter tdci]

It's an Embraer Legacy 650E. It has a range of 3,800nm.

https://www.flyvictor.com/en-gb/aircraft-operators...

edit: even slower!

[RobbyJ]

It's owned by Air Hamburg and charter company with quite a few jets. It's interesting to look at the history of a lot of these jets, like the Vistajet fleet that aren't LADD so you can track their history in FR24.

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd

[RobbyJ]

trashbat said:

It's a 650E and it's got a range of 3,900nm. New York to London is about 3,500nm.

Edit: too slow!

[MarkwG]

parabolica said:

That's quite an interesting flight history for just the last 2 weeks; looks like it's been all around the world.

It's only earning when it's in the air, on the ground it's costing

[Amateurish]

peter tdci said:

It's an Embraer Legacy 650E. It has a range of 3,800nm.

https://www.flyvictor.com/en-gb/aircraft-operators...

edit: even slower!

Isn't it cutting it rather fine to fly 3,500 nm when the range is 3,800?

[RobbyJ]

Amateurish said:

Isn't it cutting it rather fine to fly 3,500 nm when the range is 3,800?

I assume that's the useable range with appropriate reserves but only a guess.

[Dr Jekyll]

RobbyJ said:

Amateurish said:

Isn't it cutting it rather fine to fly 3,500 nm when the range is 3,800?

I assume that's the useable range with appropriate reserves but only a guess.

Also, they probably had a tailwind and weren't committed to continuing all the way to Biggin. They could have stopped at Prestwick if running low.

[andyA700]

Thanks for all the answers, that is an impressive range.

[Amateurish]

Dr Jekyll said:

RobbyJ said:

Amateurish said:

Isn't it cutting it rather fine to fly 3,500 nm when the range is 3,800?

I assume that's the useable range with appropriate reserves but only a guess.

Also, they probably had a tailwind and weren't committed to continuing all the way to Biggin. They could have stopped at Prestwick if running low.

That all makes sense. Really interesting, thanks.

[Tango13]

It's got two engines, let's have a discussion about ETOPS...

[Sheets Tabuer]

Probably had a few layers of paint scrubbed off, backend of this one was stripped for a repaint when I worked at BH, obviously the rest would have been stripped too.

[PurpleTurtle]

Amateurish said:

peter tdci said:

It's an Embraer Legacy 650E. It has a range of 3,800nm.

https://www.flyvictor.com/en-gb/aircraft-operators...

edit: even slower!

Isn't it cutting it rather fine to fly 3,500 nm when the range is 3,800?

They just glide if they run low, yeah? I’ve seen it loads of times on Air Crash Investigations!

[MarkwG]

Tango13 said:

It's got two engines, let's have a discussion about ETOPS...

Looks like it stayed within 75 mins flight time of land on that route so don't think ETOPS applied

[Crumpet]

RobbyJ said:

It's owned by Air Hamburg and charter company with quite a few jets. It's interesting to look at the history of a lot of these jets, like the Vistajet fleet that aren't LADD so you can track their history in FR24.

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd

It certainly keeps it interesting for the crew. It wouldn’t be unusual to circumnavigate the planet in less than a week and then go all the way back around the next - and all to airports you’ve never been to before!