Discussion
Well, half of one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302094...
Note the seller's comment 'easy to repair maximum cost to back in the road £3 to 5k'.
Righto. How much really I wonder?
Note the seller's comment 'easy to repair maximum cost to back in the road £3 to 5k'.
Righto. How much really I wonder?
I always raise a wry smile when I read these sort of adverts . Almost without exception they feature the phrase " easy fix " and inevitably I think if its that easy then why arent you doing it yourself ? I suspect one of the biggest problems with this project will prove to be getting the materials to complete it . After completion I would think it could well be unsellable to a large percentage of its target marketplace so alas not for me . I would love to know the Backstory as to why it has apparently avoided repair by an Aston Dealer , normally you would expect for the car to be damaged , insurance claimed and then the Owner insisting it goes back to the approved Aston Dealer for repair but for some reason this hasn't happened .
reddiesel said:
I always raise a wry smile when I read these sort of adverts . Almost without exception they feature the phrase " easy fix " and inevitably I think if its that easy then why arent you doing it yourself ?
Like people who send out flyers saying you can get 18% on whisky futures. Don't share the amazing secret, invest your own money!All I can think of saying;
The bonnet resting in place has presumably come from another car. Seems to have a finished paint colour.
The grille and front panel do not look like DB11 parts. Think might be DBS.
Therefore if the bonnet is also DBS (colour looks similar to front panel), then are DB11 and DBS clamshell bonnets interchangeable?
If they are not, imagine what the cost of buying a DB11 bonnet might be.
Jon39 said:
The bonnet resting in place has presumably come from another car. Seems to have a finished paint colour.
The grille and front panel do not look like DB11 parts. Think might be DBS.
Therefore if the bonnet is also DBS (colour looks similar to front panel), then are DB11 and DBS clamshell bonnets interchangeable?
If they are not, imagine what the cost of buying a DB11 bonnet might be.
Nah, you just bosh the DBS bonnet on and call it a 'rare upgrade'!The grille and front panel do not look like DB11 parts. Think might be DBS.
Therefore if the bonnet is also DBS (colour looks similar to front panel), then are DB11 and DBS clamshell bonnets interchangeable?
If they are not, imagine what the cost of buying a DB11 bonnet might be.
Mind you the rest of the stuff in his yard looks pretty tasty. I fancy that caravan...
Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 20th February 22:44
From the wording of the advert , the index plate and the ownership of the surrounding vehicles I think we can safely say the Car isn’t owned by the Duke of Westminster . It’s down as a Cat S which will be attached to the vehicle permanently and we all know what that means . Drilling down into the raw economics of the situation I think given the purchase price that it’s questionable whether or not restoration is even economically viable . The Vendor I believe knows all this and is being less than candid in his advertisement . His options he has found to be severely limited , so much so that a future payment from any insurer should the car mysteriously catch fire would in my opinion be highly unlikely to virtually impossible . It’s the story behind the car which will be most interesting especially how it came to be damaged , was it the Vendors and if not how much did he pay for the car . The day the Insurance was claimed was the day this car ceased to be a viable proposition , it’s one for the Breaker or Export to Uganda
Edited by reddiesel on Tuesday 21st February 06:49
Current lack of AML parts availability mean this is surely going to end up broken and the usable parts sold for two reasons:
1. No new parts available from factory means it probably cannot be repaired.
2. No new parts available from factory means second hand parts will go for very good prices.
You may even make a profit buying it for £50K. I mean, how much would the engine and gearbox alone go for? Then think about the price of the seats, every little CF interior part, electrical parts etc.etc.etc. .........
1. No new parts available from factory means it probably cannot be repaired.
2. No new parts available from factory means second hand parts will go for very good prices.
You may even make a profit buying it for £50K. I mean, how much would the engine and gearbox alone go for? Then think about the price of the seats, every little CF interior part, electrical parts etc.etc.etc. .........
Completely agree Pete the only caveat being you may have a long wait for your Money and its doubtful the Vendor will have either the skill to disassemble or the patience waiting on Customers for the Parts . I must admit to being totally ignorant of the existence of any AML specialist breaker and I wonder how much they would offer him for the car should there be one . A great deal less than £50k would be my guess .
You would think the Vendor would have researched all his Options before placing the Advert and you get the feeling he is perhaps looking for the proverbial " mug punter " who at this sort of level I suspect are in short supply . Its an interesting Topic I suppose for many of us just what your Options are with an Aston thats been accorded such a Classification by the Insurance Industry . Ideally I suppose you would disregard the C classification , buy it , restore it and enjoy , sadly in the real world today thats not so simple . I have a friend who damaged a DB5 quite extensively some time back , without recourse to any Insurance he diligently set about the restoration and today its as it left the factory . Its an interesting parallel .
You would think the Vendor would have researched all his Options before placing the Advert and you get the feeling he is perhaps looking for the proverbial " mug punter " who at this sort of level I suspect are in short supply . Its an interesting Topic I suppose for many of us just what your Options are with an Aston thats been accorded such a Classification by the Insurance Industry . Ideally I suppose you would disregard the C classification , buy it , restore it and enjoy , sadly in the real world today thats not so simple . I have a friend who damaged a DB5 quite extensively some time back , without recourse to any Insurance he diligently set about the restoration and today its as it left the factory . Its an interesting parallel .
Edited by reddiesel on Tuesday 21st February 07:57
reddiesel said:
Calinours said:
Looking forward to the comments on this.
Whats your own thoughts.........assuming of course you are qualified to express them 
I always enjoy your input .
A zero needs to be added to the repair estimate range, and even then, the car as a structural write off will never be worth more (given that DB11 are still in the depreciation phase and 2017MY trade value for a straight car is now around £75k) than the price it’s currently advertised at.
If I was a betting man, I’d wager that the vendor is very well aware of that.
Edited by Calinours on Tuesday 21st February 08:29
reddiesel said:
From the wording of the advert ...
I am particularly intrigued by this part of the wording, 'no chase damage'.
Should we be picturing a getaway car, waiting outside a bank premises.
A masked man with a striped top runs out from the bank carrying a bag, then jumps in the DB11.
The car speeds away, but soon find there are cops following the robbers.
A chase occurs, but the DB11 has the power to escape the pursuers and fortunately there was no damage to the car.
How the front was subsequently ruined remains a mystery. You need to continue the imaginative story yourselves.
Might it perhaps have involved a dispute amongst the robbers, about sharing the proceeds?
Jon39 said:
reddiesel said:
From the wording of the advert ...
I am particularly intrigued by this part of the wording, 'no chase damage'.
Should we be picturing a getaway car, waiting outside a bank premises.
A masked man with a striped top runs out from the bank carrying a bag, then jumps in the DB11.
The car speeds away, but soon find there are cops following the robbers.
A chase occurs, but the DB11 has the power to escape the pursuers and fortunately there was no damage to the car.
How the front was subsequently ruined remains a mystery. You need to continue the imaginative story yourselves.
Might it perhaps have involved a dispute amongst the robbers, about sharing the proceeds?
So the insurance assessor must have been wrong then
Simpo Two said:
Well, half of one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302094...
Note the seller's comment 'easy to repair maximum cost to back in the road £3 to 5k'.
Righto. How much really I wonder?
I love 'No silly offers'. Take down the ad then! Who would be crazy enough to offer £50k for that?Note the seller's comment 'easy to repair maximum cost to back in the road £3 to 5k'.
Righto. How much really I wonder?
https://www.trents.co.uk/car-parts/makes/other-mak...
Just looking at some of the prices of secondhand parts for a DB11
Just looking at some of the prices of secondhand parts for a DB11
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