Skoda Octavia advice?
Skoda Octavia advice?
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Mercdriver

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3,000 posts

60 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Just sold the Merc, next car will not need Star diagnostics. Loved the CL but getting a knowledgeable Indy to repair it was a PIA.

So looking to replace it, quietly impressed with Skoda, the room inside and the kit that comes as standard.
Have to be petrol, prefer auto with cruise, diesel no use to me low miles I would spend more money on fuel giving it an Italian tune up to clear the filter. Only do about 3K miles a year, I will spend about 15K on car, maximum of 50K miles.
The morecame and wise version, cannot remember founders name, looks good but not too many up here in Scotland so which model has the best toys?

Got a taxi last week driver drove a superbe, he was pleased with it, always a good sign when taxis are using a marque of car. Superbe just too big for my needs but the Octavia will do fine.

Anybody got advice on these? Spares? Any problems with them to look out for?

Bobupndown

2,887 posts

70 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Lauren and Klement (or Wallace and Grommit) is the range topper, very nicely specced and well finished.
If you can live without leather seats the SEL is a decent trim with plenty of standard kit including sat nav, cruise control.
I don't own one but have been in plenty and driven a few (all 2.0 tdi though). I really like them, they are a very capable, spacious and practical cars. If I didn't have a twin axle caravan to tow I'd be perfectly happy driving an Octavia estate, am considering a 4x4 Superb estate for my next car.

Mercdriver

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3,000 posts

60 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Thanks Bob, seems to be a lot of 1.0 and 1.4 litre cars for sale which I think will be underpowered. I bought an escort 1.1 pop plus way back and I swore I would never buy the smaller engined version of a car again.

Make up my mind when I have test driven a 1.4, ideally 1.6 a 2.0 litre would just burn more fuel.


Very impressed with the level of kit on them, much better than the VW golf.

The petrol engined ones seem to sell quick, plenty of diesels but no use to me.

RizzoTheRat

28,648 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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vRS gets you Alcantara and fabric instead of the L&K's leather, but a bit stiffer suspension and I'm not sure if the L&K gets the top spec engine the vRS does. vRS still gets most of the toys with dual zone climate, cruise control etc.
Assume you're looking at a Mk3, but dunno if they have the Mk2's (pre 2013 I think) annoying tendency for door seals to leak in heavy rain and the design of the hatchback lid means water runs off the screen in to the boot when you open it. Wouldn't put me off having another when my 120k mile diesel finally dies.

mtvessel

79 posts

42 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I am on my second. Had the first, 1.4 DSG 3 years, this one 1.5 DSG 3.5 years. Both engines are in fact over-powered, wheel spins are remarkedly easy. Both have coped with everything from short journeys to drivng to spain 4 + luggage. Over the lifetime I am averaging 46mpg. No intention of changing. Both faultless, just knock it out of gear if you are stationary for a while.

Mercdriver

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3,000 posts

60 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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A knowledgeable? Friend recommended not getting the vrs as they get pinched, is that true, at my age I do not need the extra power. I got my kicks out of the 5 litre V8 and taking things easier now

RizzoTheRat

28,648 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I've had mine about 12 years and its not been pinched yet, but not sure if newer ones are more prone to it.

If you value comfort over speed definitely look at the L&K.

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/ is a pretty active forum and good for advice.


Maybe also consider a Volvo, I'm tempted by a V60 as a replacement.

Truckosaurus

13,154 posts

311 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Mercdriver said:
A knowledgeable? Friend recommended not getting the vrs as they get pinched, is that true, at my age I do not need the extra power. I got my kicks out of the 5 litre V8 and taking things easier now
I'm not sure a vRS is a theft magnet as they are under powered compared to their sister Golf-R or Seat Leons.

vladcjelli

3,368 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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For low mileage, see how much the iV plug in hybrid version can be had for.

Plenty of go, but your first 20-30 miles are electric if you want, or on long trips it helps to preserve fuel by assisting the acceleration.

If you have cheap rate night electric it might work well for you.

pherlopolus

2,185 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I had just decided on an IV (lease is up in September) and they don't list it on the website anymore! Just the supurb IV

Deerfoot

5,219 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Mercdriver said:
Thanks Bob, seems to be a lot of 1.0 and 1.4 litre cars for sale which I think will be underpowered.
I had a 1.4 litre loan car while mine was in for a service, it was decent to be honest and averaged 40 mpg on my commute.

Mercdriver

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3,000 posts

60 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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https://www.briskoda.net/forums/ is a pretty active forum and good for advice.



Thanks rizzo have done that, very helpful

wyson

4,034 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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Engines under 2 litres come with the dry clutch 7 speed DQ200 DSG gearboxes. You might want to google that.

I tried early iterations and they put me off.

Very jerky in traffic, premature mechatronic failures costing about £1.6k to fix. I had a quick google, honestjohn is still saying you should steer clear of the 7 speed dry clutch.

I’m weary of dual clutch automated manual gearboxes in general, especially on an older car. They are seriously complex bits of kit. My friend had his 60k mile 2016 Peugeot automated manual go funny, that cost £2.5k to put right. Ford Powershift automated manuals have a bad reputation too.

Would go for a torque converter auto for a daily driver. I think Ford and Peugeot have reverted to these now.

I’ve been reading CVT’s are also fragile. Toyota moved away from them for their latest 5th gen hybrid power trains, switching the transmission to planetary gears.

But I suppose if you mainly do motorway miles, want to put 4k miles on a 25k mile car and get rid of it after a couple of years, reliability concerns might not matter much to you.

Edited by wyson on Friday 24th February 09:45

Pablo16v

2,855 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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It's a shame they didn't offer the Mk2 Scout model with a petrol engine as I had a 66 plate 2.0tdi DSG 184 Scout for 3 1/2 years and it was a great family wagon. Comfy, practical and decent enough performance.

stevemcs

10,174 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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I'd avoid the DSG, unless you are happy to have a slush fund of 3k to one side just incase.

What about a 1 series BMW/3 series ?

Mercdriver

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3,000 posts

60 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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Is the DSG an auto or a semi auto or a manual? Having trouble finding this out. I want auto, do not understand VW designing a new auto box ford Chevy etc have been making auto boxes for so long the design must be well proven by now to give a reliable box, I am just lazy now cannot be bothered with manual.

Seems to be mixed views on them some good some bad.

Thank but no thanks for BMW never been a fan, could cut arms of though would not need them anymore to give signals smilesmilesmile

pherlopolus

2,185 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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I have had 2 DSG cars, 1 was a superb that I passed on with 60k miles, and current Karoq with 55k miles. Not had any issues with them at all, but they were both main dealer serviced, think first gearbox oil change is 60k? but not sure. Would absolutely have another, but flappy paddles are largely pointless.

mikal83

5,340 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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have you considered a Forester......my XT is proper tiddly. 2 litre petrol, goes like stink, hauls 2 ton easy.......

stevemcs

10,174 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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Mercdriver said:
Is the DSG an auto or a semi auto or a manual? Having trouble finding this out. I want auto, do not understand VW designing a new auto box ford Chevy etc have been making auto boxes for so long the design must be well proven by now to give a reliable box, I am just lazy now cannot be bothered with manual.

Seems to be mixed views on them some good some bad.

Thank but no thanks for BMW never been a fan, could cut arms of though would not need them anymore to give signals smilesmilesmile
Its not really either, it doesn't have a torque convertor which is why it doesn't feel as smooth, they don't like being treated like an auto a sitting in d while in traffic, they do creep but not as nicely as a proper auto. They have small clutch packs that can and do overheat.

7speed doesn't have any oil changes.

Make sure you drive one, i just don't like how they drive I really disliked mine when I owned it (Audi A3 2.0tdi)


wyson

4,034 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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Mercdriver said:
Is the DSG an auto or a semi auto or a manual? Having trouble finding this out.
DSG is an automated manual with 2 clutches.

Skoda don’t have an auto gearbox, if by that you mean a torque converter automatic.

Definitely try a DSG and see if you like the characteristics first. It won’t behave like the torque converter auto you had in your Merc.

Edited by wyson on Wednesday 22 February 20:42