Buying New car on Finance - son selling?

Buying New car on Finance - son selling?

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Raptor7000r

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244 posts

70 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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Hey All,

Looking at a new car for my sibling, looked at one it's fairly well priced, £1200 under webuyanycar and the seller is aware but i'm a bit apprehensive as I did say why would you not sell to WBAC if their offering 1200 more to which he answered they'd knock 1500 off to which I'd say they wouldnt.

Firstly, the son is selling it on behalf of his dad whose the register keeper and has finance on the car but is in for a cancer surgery and unavailable to assist with matters, there is paperwork and his license there and a signed letter with power of attorney for the car. Their selling as he is unable to afford it and use it at the moment.

I'm dubious and being cautious nothing untoward happens here, we've done a HPI check. not stolen and as long as we clear the finance and a little on top we're all good to go? Just cautious in case something goes wrong, I've bought cars previously where I've paid the finance company directly as we shall do for this but never not of the owner, now the son does have the same name as the father coincidentally and wouldn't have to tell us this and seems ok but just dubious.

The cars also stored at the sons unit as there area isn't great apparently, this worried me a little but ok. He did call his father in front of me and he didn't sound young but hey may be the Scottish accent but They have owned it for 1 year so not sure if I'm worrying about nothing.

What's the worst that could happen? We pay the finance as long as the logbook is current and pay the Son or pay cash/ transfer the rest to the father then we're all good? Advice welcome on how to approach, we're planning to collect the car tomorrow.

DiscoSINGH

271 posts

146 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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I'd let this one slip through your fingers mate, there's too much going on here.

You not dealing with the seller, car in storage, finance etc.

Let them dispose of it via WBAC/other sellers - I'd spend a bit more any buy from a better source.

Aunty Pasty

623 posts

39 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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I don't think the circumstances are that weird. I sold my dads car years ago on his behalf. He just decided to emigrate from the country and left me to clear up all the loose ends he left behind. This was an old shed though. Until recently WBAC did have a reputation of basically screwing the punter over by knocking money off the initial offer price over any little excuse so I'm not surprised the son still holds that view.

Raptor7000r

Original Poster:

244 posts

70 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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DiscoSINGH said:
I'd let this one slip through your fingers mate, there's too much going on here.

You not dealing with the seller, car in storage, finance etc.

Let them dispose of it via WBAC/other sellers - I'd spend a bit more any buy from a better source.
I did think this, she does need a car however and it's priced cheap but i'm naturally dubious so questioning if its too good to be true.


Aunty Pasty said:
I don't think the circumstances are that weird. I sold my dads car years ago on his behalf. He just decided to emigrate from the country and left me to clear up all the loose ends he left behind. This was an old shed though. Until recently WBAC did have a reputation of basically screwing the punter over by knocking money off the initial offer price over any little excuse so I'm not surprised the son still holds that view.
Yep, I've sold through WBAC but the one thing he did say when he quoted WBAC he knew someone who worked there a long time ago and he was giving all his pals full value, for the condition the cars in I can't see them knocking off more than £500 at the max.

Just questioning what can go wrong here, think we'll proceed but only thing is sold without permission? But with logbook change it changes ownership etc possibly some legal comeback there but a big effort there just not wanting any issues especially considering its quite expensive early five figure sum.

Although as my friend said, if he didn't tell me the story I would of ever known so could be just sudden cancer, operation no money coming in and can't afford it. Another thing I noticed was a delivery box in the car, who does deliveries in an A Class? .

Macneil

896 posts

81 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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Come on it stinks walk away.

loskie

5,262 posts

121 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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ask to see the dad's ID. Passport, Driving Licence whatever

Raptor7000r

Original Poster:

244 posts

70 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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loskie said:
ask to see the dad's ID. Passport, Driving Licence whatever
He did bring these and a letter.


Thinking out loud what can really go wrong?

Cestrian

31 posts

45 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Raptor7000r said:
He did bring these and a letter.


Thinking out loud what can really go wrong?
You end up paying for a car that neither you or the seller owns. Car gets repossesed or shows as having outstanding finance on it when yoe come to sell.

As others have said, i'd give this one a miss and find another car to buy.

Raptor7000r

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244 posts

70 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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If we pay the finance company directly should be ok though?

GreatGranny

9,139 posts

227 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Has the son permission to contact the FC on behalf of the owner and pay off the finance?


Raptor7000r

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244 posts

70 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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GreatGranny said:
Has the son permission to contact the FC on behalf of the owner and pay off the finance?
Yep

carreauchompeur

17,852 posts

205 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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There are numerous red flags here. I'd honestly give it a miss.

Far Cough

2,241 posts

169 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Raptor7000r said:
............................ we're planning to collect the car tomorrow.
How did it go then ??

carreauchompeur

17,852 posts

205 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Try taxing it online using the documents you've seen. If you get an error then run like the wind.

bennno

11,666 posts

270 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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carreauchompeur said:
Try taxing it online using the documents you've seen. If you get an error then run like the wind.
Mad for any seller to let you try to tax / change ownership of the car without having been paid first imho…..

Raptor7000r

Original Poster:

244 posts

70 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Far Cough said:
How did it go then ??
collected car today due to finance company closing on Friday earlier than expected.


carreauchompeur said:
Try taxing it online using the documents you've seen. If you get an error then run like the wind.
I tried this to check the logbook was valid and all good.

Seems ok, will feedback here if any issues arise but seems a genuine story.

Far Cough

2,241 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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That's great. All the best with it