Do we have a implied contract to drive on the highway ?
Do we have a implied contract to drive on the highway ?
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robinessex

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11,867 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Do motorists have an implied contract to drive on the highway? Why I ask? Because I'm pissed off with crashing along our highways which now often resemble a rally special stage. I've finally suffered a complete vehicle write-off with said potholes, and I'm £6500 out of pocket. Do I have an implied contract to drive on the highway? If so, could I make a claim on the grounds they're not fit for purpose?

Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

42 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Yes under section 22 of the freeman of the road act, you are entitled to travel on all public highways unhindered and without tolls .

Do you consent?

robinessex

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11,867 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Sure do

donkmeister

11,651 posts

123 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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No. Interesting idea but you don't pay anyone to use the roads, no-one is obliged to you to provide the roads.

It would be interesting to see how that would work with per mile charges though; could this be the unsung benefit of per mile road charges?

Aretnap

1,936 posts

174 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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It is possible to claim for pothole damage in some circumstances, depending on how aware the relevant highways agency was of the issue and how much time they'd had to put it right. However it has nothing to do with "implied contracts" or other vaguely Freeman On The Land sounding wibble.

https://www.gov.uk/claim-for-damage-to-your-vehicl...

donkmeister

11,651 posts

123 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Raccaccoonie said:
Yes under section 22 of the freeman of the road act, you are entitled to travel on all public highways unhindered and without tolls .

Do you consent?
Hmmm... I thought roads are covered under maritime law in the FOTW movement?

robinessex

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11,867 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Aretnap said:
It is possible to claim for pothole damage in some circumstances, depending on how aware the relevant highways agency was of the issue and how much time they'd had to put it right. However it has nothing to do with "implied contracts" or other vaguely Freeman On The Land sounding wibble.

https://www.gov.uk/claim-for-damage-to-your-vehicl...
I know and appreciate that. However, this only works after you hit and had damage from a pothole. If there was an implied contract in existence, then the government would have to maintain the roads in a much better state than they presently do, and then they would be nice to drive on instead of being like rally special stages.

Bill

57,228 posts

278 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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robinessex said:
Do motorists have an implied contract to drive on the highway? Why I ask? Because I'm pissed off with crashing along our highways which now often resemble a rally special stage. I've finally suffered a complete vehicle write-off with said potholes, and I'm £6500 out of pocket. Do I have an implied contract to drive on the highway? If so, could I make a claim on the grounds they're not fit for purpose?
How??? confused

OutInTheShed

12,999 posts

49 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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On the flip side maybe car makers should be selling cars fit for the purpose of driving on UK roads, rather than things with wheels and tyres only suitable for a perfectly smooth race track?

robinessex

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Friday 24th February 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
On the flip side maybe car makers should be selling cars fit for the purpose of driving on UK roads, rather than things with wheels and tyres only suitable for a perfectly smooth race track?
Most other civilized countries have smooth roads. My stepdaughter lives in Sweden, whose roads are nigh on perfect. Why should the REST OF THE WORLD have to make cars suitable for our st roads? My wife suffers from Arthritis, and is often in considerable pain bouncing over crap roads.

TO73074E

496 posts

50 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
On the flip side maybe car makers should be selling cars fit for the purpose of driving on UK roads, rather than things with wheels and tyres only suitable for a perfectly smooth race track?
I don't agree with this. There is often a demand for some spicier models of cars sold only in overseas markets (I'm looking at you Japan) because they deem them too focused or not suitable for our market. Probably because our roads are made out of digestive biscuits. One that springs to mind is the FD2 Honda Civic Type R which is quite often named as the best normally aspirated Civic Type R made.

Maybe the councils should stop pocketing the money or wasting it on useless contractors to build poor versions of bike lanes. Or should we just all drive around in tanks and hovercrafts?

Terminator X

19,500 posts

227 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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I have to weave left and right so much now that I'm surprised I haven't been tugged for looking like a drunk driver!

TX.

deja.vu

456 posts

39 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Maybe the OP should try specsavers?

gt_12345

1,873 posts

58 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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I think it's probably dependent on council?

And, for all we know, you live at the end of a tiny lane with 2 houses on it?

robinessex

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11,867 posts

204 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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deja.vu said:
Maybe the OP should try specsavers?
For ?

MustangGT

13,670 posts

303 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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robinessex said:
deja.vu said:
Maybe the OP should try specsavers?
For ?
Doh, looking where you are going and avoiding potholes like other people do.

robinessex

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Friday 24th February 2023
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MustangGT said:
Doh, looking where you are going and avoiding potholes like other people do.
I knew there would be a number of sanctimonious genius drivers who can miraculously drive and miss the 1000's of potholes prevalent on our roads. You obviously don't live where I do.

Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

42 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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The country is going to pot (holes), I thought that was obvious.

alscar

8,076 posts

236 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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Written off because of damage to all 4 corners including wheels , tyres and suspension components caused by potholes or because the potholes caused an incident resulting in damage ?

OutInTheShed

12,999 posts

49 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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alscar said:
Written off because of damage to all 4 corners including wheels , tyres and suspension components caused by potholes or because the potholes caused an incident resulting in damage ?
Maybe it just disappeared into a really big hole and wasn't worth lifting out?