3,000 Sleeping Rough in England…

[SS427 Camaro]

And this figure is thought be far higher……

[Jasandjules]

I can only see it getting worse with preposterous energy and food pricing.

[S600BSB]

World's 5th largest economy. Shameful.

[Biggy Stardust]

Many that I've had the pleasure to interact with are unwilling to go to the hostel accomodation available due to the excessive conditions: midnight curfews, prohibition of drugs or alcohol, etc.

[thiscocks]

But we can afford hotel accommodation for thousands of illegals...

[valiant]

thiscocks said:

But we can afford hotel accommodation for thousands of illegals...

Yep, and we can also afford to house the homeless. During first covid lockdown they were housed in hotels and whatnot so it can be and has been proved to be doable.

It’s not an either/or decision.

[Earthdweller]

Biggy Stardust said:

Many that I've had the pleasure to interact with are unwilling to go to the hostel accomodation available due to the excessive conditions: midnight curfews, prohibition of drugs or alcohol, etc.

This is unfortunately true

I did some partnership work with the local authority in a U.K. city identifying all the rough sleepers and some did actually already have homes, either private or social housing

The authority made available social housing for everyone sleeping rough in the city. Many wouldn’t entertain it, some took up the offer but quickly abandoned the provided place, some did adapt back into the mainstream and took the help and assistance offered but far from all of them

Sure there were lots of mental health issues, substance/alcohol abuse etc

But there were many that just wanted to be where they were and the back stories of many were quite impactful

[Gecko1978]

I don't think people choose to be homeless but they do choose in some cases the escape of addiction versus a form or shelter with rules. Choose is a hard word so I mean it softly as I am not sure smack addict is something people think yep looks good to me. Clearly tomorrow of we could magic up 3000 homes we would still have some rough sleepers and likely not a small number either.

[PositronicRay]

Not perfect, but an improvement over circa 5000 in 2017.

[Mobile Chicane]

There would be no housing crisis in the UK if every home 'owner' were only allowed one - the property they live in.

[Biggy Stardust]

Mobile Chicane said:

There would be no housing crisis in the UK if every home 'owner' were only allowed one - the property they live in.

I'm curious where those currently renting would live but presume your statement has given little thought to fact; I presume it's based on petty jealousy of BTL & similar, with a side order of social 'justice'.

[dvs_dave]

‘Only’ 3000 out of a homeless population of around 225,000? Would have guessed it being much much higher countrywide.

[BIGISSUE] How many people are homelessness in the UK?

[bongtom]

Can we blame Brexit or ULEZ?

[Terminator X]

S600BSB said:

World's 5th largest economy. Shameful.

Divert all the foreign aid budget(s). Crazy idea

TX.

[Catz]

Biggy Stardust said:

Mobile Chicane said:

There would be no housing crisis in the UK if every home 'owner' were only allowed one - the property they live in.

I'm curious where those currently renting would live but presume your statement has given little thought to fact; I presume it's based on petty jealousy of BTL & similar, with a side order of social 'justice'.

Interesting reply!
Accurate though, where would those renting end up?

[waynedear]

The figure is much higher, they only count those that are easily visible and are sitting or layed down, they do not look in side streets.

[Chris944_S2]

thiscocks said:

But we can afford hotel accommodation for thousands of illegals...

Who are the illegals?

[andyA700]

Chris944_S2 said:

thiscocks said:

But we can afford hotel accommodation for thousands of illegals...

Who are the illegals?

People who rock up on our shores without a passport, mostly young men who are chancers and criminals.

[rscott]

andyA700 said:

Chris944_S2 said:

thiscocks said:

But we can afford hotel accommodation for thousands of illegals...

Who are the illegals?

People who rock up on our shores without a passport, mostly young men who are chancers and criminals.

They're not illegal if they claim asylum though. If their applications were processed promptly, then they could either be returned back if refused, or made to move out of the hotels to work if granted asylum.

[greygoose]

rscott said:

andyA700 said:

Chris944_S2 said:

thiscocks said:

But we can afford hotel accommodation for thousands of illegals...

Who are the illegals?

People who rock up on our shores without a passport, mostly young men who are chancers and criminals.

They're not illegal if they claim asylum though. If their applications were processed promptly, then they could either be returned back if refused, or made to move out of the hotels to work if granted asylum.

If the government processed asylum applications in a timely manner then they couldn’t use the asylum seekers as a diversion from whatever topic the public is currently complaining about.