RE: Toyota Supra Turbo (A70) | Spotted
RE: Toyota Supra Turbo (A70) | Spotted
Friday 3rd March 2023

Mint Toyota Supra Turbo (A70) | Spotted

Not only is it in A1 condition, this A70 is the perfect spec - with Turbo and a manual 'box


I often sound extremely excited by certain cars. I am aware that if this happens too often it might conjure up a whiff of cynicism – it’s all just manufactured delight to add some pizzazz. For example, I wrote recently that I was so enraptured by a Mercedes W126 that I was considering buying it, but I wasn’t pulling your leg, honestly. I am still toing and froing over that one, and it’s still, annoyingly, the ULEZ extension – writ large in the cons column – that’s swaying me from plunging in. I haven’t ruled it out completely, though. 

Here's another car that’s getting me in a tizz and, again, the tizz is real. I have long held a soft spot for the A70 Toyota Supra in any form, but this one is, I reckon, most people’s idea of the zenith. It’s a Turbo and a manual, which means maximum welly and driver engagement in one package. Not sure there’s too much arguing to be had about those two box tickers? Nor the fact that it’s as clean and tidy as a new hospital, despite being 33-years old, but that’s in part because it’s showing just 37,000 miles on the odometer. Mind you, let’s face it, it’s a Toyota; it'd probably be just as tidy if it had clocked up 137,000 miles.

Indeed, the only contentious thing I can see is the ever-thorny issue of colour. I happen to think red suits this A70 as well as it did Pamela Anderson’s swimsuit. As an aside, Baywatch burst onto our screens in the same year this car was made in 1990. Anyway, just because I happen to like it in red doesn't mean you will. I can imagine many will prefer a more conservative blue hue, which is fine: there's an even lower-mileage A70 I noticed for sale with a different dealer, and it's blue. The truth is, colour is never a black and white issue; well, unless it’s black or white I suppose.

The A70 isn’t a true sports car, it’s more of a grand tourer. It was also the first of the breed to cut ties with the Celica, on which the Supra had been based since it came out in 1978. But by this era the Celica had gone front-wheel drive and the Supra stuck with a proper rear-drive layout, which meant the A70 was built off the Toyota Soarer platform. The 3.0-litre 7M-GE straight-six was a blueprint for cutting edge at the time. It had double overhead cams, four-valves per cylinder, electronic ignition and fuel injection. In its standard, naturally aspirated guise, it made 201hp at 6,000rpm, backed up by a useful 187lb ft that peaked at 4,800rpm.

The Supra had a reputation for being a bit overweight, which was true. The A70 weighed in at around 1,500kg, depending on the spec, while a Porsche 944 was in the region of 100kg lighter. But the standard Supra could still accelerate from 0-60mph in 7.3 seconds, which was quicker than a 944 2.5 Lux, and, of course, the 944 was limited to a measly four cylinders. The Supra’s six sounded altogether more delicious. When the Turbo arrived in 1987, there could be no questioning its pace. The 7M-GTE motor raised the stakes to 235hp and 253lb ft, which meant this thing could hit 60 in 6.3 seconds. That was more than respectable 30-odd-years ago, as was its 152mph top speed.

To be frank, though, performance is less of an issue all these years later. Some humble modern hatchbacks – and not even the hot versions – could match or beat that time. What’s more important about cars like this is how they make you feel. It’s all about the emotional value. And to me that’s very high with this car. I think the shape matches exactly the era it was from without looking awkward today. It’s extremely handsome, with neat details like the recessed indicators and side lights, pop-up headlights (of course) and, this being a late model, the integrated rear spoiler. Then there’s the interior. Plenty of dials, including a boost gauge, and more buttons on display than you’d see in a ceremonial military march. It’s my kind of interior that. No touchscreen nonsense, no digital dials, just analogue brilliance throughout. But it’s the Supra’s seats that really finish it off. How amazing do they look? I don’t even have to sit in them to imagine how good they’d feel to sink my backside into. And as with everything about this particular example, they’re in wonderful condition.

So, just to be clear, this is not feigned delight. This is genuine appreciation of a wonderful classic on display, and another car that I’d love to have in my collection. Sadly, another one that is currently scuppered by ULEZ, though. Shame.


See the original advert here

SPECIFICATION | TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 Turbo (A70)

Engine: 2,954cc, straight-six
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 235 @ 5,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 253 @ 3,200rpm
CO2: 258g/km
MPG: 26
Recorded mileage: 37,000
Year registered: 1990
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £23,495

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British Beef

Original Poster:

2,572 posts

195 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I would love one of these in black with the swiping red light at the front, that answered to name "kitt" - not the same car, but these always reminded me of night rider as a kid.

I would then get my hair permed and start wearing leather jackets and gold medallions...... life goals for a Friday :-)

JJJ.

5,619 posts

45 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Very nice and in this day & age I think it's reasonably priced if it's as good as it looks in the photos. I knew a couple owners who bought new and still had the car's many, many years later. One, still has his white auto.
I don't know why a 944 was mentioned as these Supra's were GT cars not sports cars, more akin to a 928 if it has to be compared to a Porsche of the same era.





Edited by JJJ. on Friday 3rd March 13:42

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

98 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Loved these and it’s really refreshing to see one now.

Always remembered them as a performance beast, odd looking at the power output now hehe

cerb4.5lee

44,936 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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A mate of mine had one of these years ago and I thought that it was absolutely lovely to sit in. I'd be more than happy with that for sure, and I don't mind red either, and I loved both my 1992 Escort RS2000/S14a 200SX in red. Although they turn pink rather than red after a while though!

Mabbs9

1,676 posts

248 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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These were on my shortlist at the end of the 90's. I went for a 300zx in the end but still get a buzz seeing these.

mersontheperson

732 posts

195 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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24 GRAND!!!!!!

Ridiculous

JJJ.

5,619 posts

45 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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mersontheperson said:
24 GRAND!!!!!!

Ridiculous
I'd prefer the navy one for thirty grand.

wpa1975

14,759 posts

144 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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JJJ. said:
mersontheperson said:
24 GRAND!!!!!!

Ridiculous
I'd prefer the navy one for thirty grand.
Agreed

cerb4.5lee

44,936 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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JJJ. said:
I'd prefer the navy one for thirty grand.
That is a lovely colour and it really suits it I reckon.

gruppeb86

641 posts

43 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Firstly., I enjoy reading these editorials. A blend of informative facts with humour on selected case studies.

Secondly., I felt obliged to alast create a Pistonheads account. The lure was too great and felt obliged.

Thirdly., the A70 Supra. My father owned a blk 3.0i, the std model. It had one modification; A knight Rider swipe reflector! Not my cup of tea, but hey ho. I remember the A70 as being unique and rapid for it's time, but then I was a kid. My father later acquired from new, the next generation UK spec Twin Turbo Supra (with airscoop on bonnet), again in blk. Quite simply, it was on another level and very impressive. For me, and regardless of condition, this A70 with 37K is overpriced. Some may disagree, and of course it's a reflection on current market conditions, but, hey ho!!

Om

2,199 posts

108 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Wow I hadn't realised prices of these had gone up that much.

Mine was an 89 Turbo manual in metallic black:





Lovely car that I had for a couple of years. Not the cheapest of things to run but it had all of the toys you could have dreamed of in period including air-con and cruise control, full leather interior, electric seats, but, best of all pop-up headlights.

Perfect for cruising around in with the occasional blast away from the lights, and with its limited slip diff a nice introduction to oversteer. It was definitely a GT rather than a sports car though (I replaced it with a Mk1 MR2). That was an absolute golden period for Toyota that they are just rekindling.

MrSmith901

300 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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It has been for sale at that price for at least 6 months if not longer, so that alone does suggest it's overpriced.

I would say around £18k would be fair for this, which may still sound a lot but people need to realise these are classics now, like anything remotely interesting from the 80's or 90's.

WCZ

11,555 posts

224 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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looks nice but wasn't expecting it to weigh 1500kg!

Byronwww

397 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Saw a beautiful white one with gold trim at the back and a fat exhaust in Malta - it sounded amazing!

Om

2,199 posts

108 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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WCZ said:
looks nice but wasn't expecting it to weigh 1500kg!
Autocar tested one in 1989, it was quoted at 1575kg but tested (fuel, driver, equipment) at 1734kg, so not a light car. Definitely a GT.

Wadeski

9,044 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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I know everyone will have a different idea of perfect spec, but the JDM cars with the 1JZ-GTE engine with this appetite for revs and twin turbos surely sit above the UK cars with the older 3 liter...

Water Fairy

6,634 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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That red one has been up for a good while now. I do like them tbh but not at that price.

AgentBlue

31 posts

83 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Definitely the prettiest supra, i don't know why people think the FTO ordered from wish.com mk4 is the best looking..
Can't believe the price!

rampangle

103 posts

45 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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Om said:
That was an absolute golden period for Toyota that they are just rekindling.
I'd say if anything Toyota today is on better form than back then.

The GR86 is a better car versus any current competition than the MR2 ever was back in the day. The GR Yaris is pretty special. Current Supra, OK BMW derived but probably still a better car in relative terms than an A70 Supra. Etc.

Then there's the GR Corolla in some markets.

Toyota of today doesn't get enough credit.

cerb4.5lee

44,936 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd March 2023
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rampangle said:
Toyota of today doesn't get enough credit.
I think they do, because the GRY is lauded as the best thing since sliced bread, and everyone has gone wild for the GR86 as well. Toyota get loads of positive stuff said about them I reckon.

I've always been a big fan of the older Toyota performance cars as well, because I enjoyed getting to experience the odd one or 2 of them over the years.

If I had the money...I'd also love a manual version of the current Supra too.