Track Day Stone Chip protection?
Track Day Stone Chip protection?
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911 habit

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294 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Recently had some paint work done on the front and now I'm going onto the Track. (Crazy I know! should of had it done after the track day).

The bodyshop advised me to put grease on the front of the car for the trackday to reduce stone chipping - has any heard of doing this? They say it reduces chipping and cleans off easily afterwards.

Anyone got experience of this? (what type of grease?) OR other ideas for the day to avoid/reduce stone chips?

big.bad.wolfie

910 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Copper slip works very well on Zanzibar Red

I'd heard that Vaseline helps, I don't know how thick you need to apply it though.

Damian

911 habit

Original Poster:

294 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Sound explosive!

I'm checking out
www.invincashield.co.uk

Cheaper than Smart Guard & Armourfend.

paulburrell

648 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Try Armourfend or Paintshield for a clear film solution. Not cheap but then neither are resprays. Just as important for the track in the old TT with over 500 bhp will be top notch brake pads - pagid yellows or similar, high boiling point fluid and high quality tyres e.g. Pirelli Corsa's or Michelin Cup's. Again neither are cheap but then again they will allow you to get the best out of your Monster. Anything else will be just a compromise.

Steve

993rsr

3,655 posts

276 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Armourfend is the best option to stop chips. Bearing in mind a bit of front end paintwork can cost £1k+ you can do the complete armourfend kit for less.

Had it fitted to my 993GT2, have done £5k mostly track miles and not a chip on the paintwork. Where the armourfend has been hit by stones, not pierced the plastic and got to the paint.

Highly recommended.

911 habit

Original Poster:

294 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Yep, I have Pagid Blue pads and SRF fluid installed.

Tyres, P Zeros - want to scrub them out to fit some better ones anyway.

InvincaShield 30 piece set for the TT is £383 inc VAT -Same 3M stuff as Armofend!


>> Edited by 911 habit on Monday 22 August 17:50

993rsr

3,655 posts

276 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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5k track miles rather!

johnny senna

4,073 posts

299 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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JC, that's interesting. Can you remember what you paid for the Armourfend please?

paulburrell

648 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Carlos

Does the £383 include fitting?? If so then that's a bit of a bargain. If not, fitting is a job for an expert. Paintshield did my GT3 and they have done an excellent job, on a black car you have to look really hard to see it - thoroughly recommended.

Steve

nel

4,830 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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johnny senna said:
JC, that's interesting. Can you remember what you paid for the Armourfend please?


I was considering it but haven't done it yet. I posted last year's price list here Johnny:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=118033&f=48&h=0&hw=armourfend

johnny senna

4,073 posts

299 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Thanks Nel, very useful.

I guess the time to do this is when you get the nose resprayed. But boy, does that make it very expensive or what? I am looking at a whopping bill to get all this done properly, the wing mirrors need doing as well as the front of the car. Damn.

911 habit

Original Poster:

294 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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paulburrell said:
Carlos

Does the £383 include fitting?? If so then that's a bit of a bargain. If not, fitting is a job for an expert. Paintshield did my GT3 and they have done an excellent job, on a black car you have to look really hard to see it - thoroughly recommended.

Steve

Not including fitting - they do it, but they also give full instruction on how to DIY

Henry-F

4,791 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Why not get a roll of semi sticky clear film and just stick it on quickly for the day over the front end. It won`t look pretty (in fact the less tight fitting the better for stone chips). Then pull it off at the end of the day & all the rubber from the marbles comes with it.

It can`t be hard to track down some, people use it all the time to protect doors etc in transit.

Oh and stay out of the gravel.

Henry

diver944

1,855 posts

303 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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Get a roll of Helicopter tape from Trident Racing at Silverstone:

www.tridentracing.co.uk/

Comes in 2", 4", and 6" rolls or a 2 foot square sheet. From memory the 6" roll is £3 a metre. It's clear, very thick and comes on and off with a hair dryer for temporary trackday useage.

Originally used to protect helicopter blades - made by 3M IIRC

993rsr

3,655 posts

276 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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Johnny, for everything, just short of £900 inc. the vat.

This comprised:
Front PU
Front Bonnet
Bottom of front wings under headlights
Trailing edge front wheelarchs
Front arch extensions
Both side sills
Both door mirrors
Rear arch extensions
Section of both rear wings
Trailing edge rear wheelarch

Think that's it, included the fitting as well. When I bought the car it had never been painted. I had the front wings, bonnet, pu and all four arch extensions done. Was going to have it all armourfended but the paint colour match was wrong and they had to do it again. Waited a few months to have it done and it was chipped to hell and back!

I would have needed another repaint in 2k track miles!

imom

262 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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JC if I remember they didn't cut it nicely around your nuts.

993rsr

3,655 posts

276 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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IMOM, quite correct, the profile of the plastic does not follow the curves of my nuts as I would have liked. - waiting for the corrective surgery in due course.

roygarth

2,674 posts

275 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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I've got an Armourfend type product on my rear arch extensions and rear inner front wheel arches. After trackday I'm finding it very difficult to remove black molten rubber marks. Easy to remove from bodywork except the protected parts. It's as though the molten rubber has melted into the plastic sheet. Has anyone else experienced this?

paulburrell

648 posts

260 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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Helicopter tape suggestion is very interesting. The product sol by most of the professional installers is 3M based and uses the same stuff that was developed for the leading edges of helicopter rotor blades.

As for cleaning off molten rubber marks, have you tried WD40 or petrol??


Steve

johnny senna

4,073 posts

299 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2005
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Thanks JC