Transferring money to partner - £40k - Tax?!
Transferring money to partner - £40k - Tax?!
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FrankAbagnale

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Hello All,

I am hoping to transfer £40k to my partner so she can put some money in to an ISA. £20k this FY and £20k in April.

We are not married, and don't have any plans to get married.

Is there any way I can give her £40k without tax being due on the money?

We have been together for several years, lived together for several years, have a joint credit card. Not a joint bank account... yet.

Any advice welcome!

Seventyseven7

1,023 posts

93 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Just do it, no one will notice, unless you’re extremely, extremely unlucky.

FrankAbagnale

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
Just do it, no one will notice, unless you’re extremely, extremely unlucky.
My kind of advice.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,191 posts

174 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Does it matter if they do notice? I think you can give as much as you like to whoever you like, tax free. Millions if you wish. Only becomes an issue if you die within 7 years and IHT limits on your estate are exceeded.

FrankAbagnale

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Does it matter if they do notice? I think you can give as much as you like to whoever you like, tax free. Millions if you wish. Only becomes an issue if you die within 7 years and IHT limits on your estate are exceeded.
I think it does matter, although I am no subject expert.

I thought there was a limit of around £3k or so, over which tax is due.

number2

5,068 posts

211 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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FrankAbagnale said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Does it matter if they do notice? I think you can give as much as you like to whoever you like, tax free. Millions if you wish. Only becomes an issue if you die within 7 years and IHT limits on your estate are exceeded.
I think it does matter, although I am no subject expert.

I thought there was a limit of around £3k or so, over which tax is due.
https://www.money.co.uk/guides/how-do-i-gift-money-without-being-taxed#:~:text=You%20can%20gift%20money%20to,money%20without%20paying%20Inheritance%20Tax.

Husband, wife or civil partner.

What if you have a partner, but not in the above categories, and transfer >3k between eachother to pay for building works or other bills? What if you pay your partner £xk per month allowance?



FrankAbagnale

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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number2 said:
FrankAbagnale said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Does it matter if they do notice? I think you can give as much as you like to whoever you like, tax free. Millions if you wish. Only becomes an issue if you die within 7 years and IHT limits on your estate are exceeded.
I think it does matter, although I am no subject expert.

I thought there was a limit of around £3k or so, over which tax is due.
https://www.money.co.uk/guides/how-do-i-gift-money-without-being-taxed#:~:text=You%20can%20gift%20money%20to,money%20without%20paying%20Inheritance%20Tax.

Husband, wife or civil partner.

What if you have a partner, but not in the above categories, and transfer >3k between eachother to pay for building works or other bills? What if you pay your partner £xk per month allowance?
I don't mind inheritance tax, i'm hopefully half a century away from kicking the can!

I wont tell the other half this would be easier if we were married. Would be cheaper to pay the tax man.

bristolbaron

5,338 posts

236 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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FrankAbagnale said:
Seventyseven7 said:
Just do it, no one will notice, unless you’re extremely, extremely unlucky.
My kind of advice.
Username checks out.

Caddyshack

14,220 posts

230 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Does it matter if they do notice? I think you can give as much as you like to whoever you like, tax free. Millions if you wish. Only becomes an issue if you die within 7 years and IHT limits on your estate are exceeded.
Exactly this. There is zero tax to pay.


Kirkmoly

186 posts

42 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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FrankAbagnale said:
I think it does matter, although I am no subject expert.

I thought there was a limit of around £3k or so, over which tax is due.
No. England has no gift tax whatsoever. Gifts can be construed as a distribution of your estate, hence the 7 year rule, but we do not have a gift tax.

stephenjk

43 posts

133 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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This guardian article explains income tax is not payable on a cash gift from an individual as it is taxed at source.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/m...

FrankAbagnale

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Thanks all, will proceed as hoped!

Zaichik

366 posts

60 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
Just do it, no one will notice, unless you’re extremely, extremely unlucky.
Or if they have access to google.

Eric Mc

124,994 posts

289 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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You can give away as much as you like when you like.
But try not to die within 7 years.

Sheepshanks

39,517 posts

143 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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FrankAbagnale said:
Hello All,

I am hoping to transfer £40k to my partner so she can put some money in to an ISA. £20k this FY and £20k in April.

We are not married, and don't have any plans to get married.

Is there any way I can give her £40k without tax being due on the money?

We have been together for several years, lived together for several years, have a joint credit card. Not a joint bank account... yet.

Any advice welcome!
She doesn’t work for you, does she?


Your question comes up quite regularly on here - I’m intrigued to know where do people get the idea from that gifts are taxable?

FrankAbagnale

Original Poster:

1,836 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
FrankAbagnale said:
Hello All,

I am hoping to transfer £40k to my partner so she can put some money in to an ISA. £20k this FY and £20k in April.

We are not married, and don't have any plans to get married.

Is there any way I can give her £40k without tax being due on the money?

We have been together for several years, lived together for several years, have a joint credit card. Not a joint bank account... yet.

Any advice welcome!
She doesn’t work for you, does she?


Your question comes up quite regularly on here - I’m intrigued to know where do people get the idea from that gifts are taxable?
Nope, doesn't work for me.

Question came up for me as I was confused by the "annual exemption" of £3000 and a lot of references to tax on gifts.

https://www.money.co.uk/guides/how-do-i-gift-money...

I assumed before googling it was fine to just hand over some money without tax, but left more confused than I started.




Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

236 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
FrankAbagnale said:
Hello All,

I am hoping to transfer £40k to my partner so she can put some money in to an ISA. £20k this FY and £20k in April.

We are not married, and don't have any plans to get married.

Is there any way I can give her £40k without tax being due on the money?

We have been together for several years, lived together for several years, have a joint credit card. Not a joint bank account... yet.

Any advice welcome!
She doesn’t work for you, does she?


Your question comes up quite regularly on here - I’m intrigued to know where do people get the idea from that gifts are taxable?
Because, as already stated, they will form part of the estate if the OP dies within 7 years of the gift, and if so, may be subject to IHT.

Caddyshack

14,220 posts

230 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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I would imagine most people "forget" about a gift of £40k when the probate forms are completed as it is a tick box "have any gifts been made within the last 7 yrs?" - would the executor know about the gift?


Yes, there are potential penalties for the Executor if the estate was investigated and the gift was found.

zbc

1,012 posts

175 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
She doesn’t work for you, does she?


Your question comes up quite regularly on here - I’m intrigued to know where do people get the idea from that gifts are taxable?
I live in France where gifts are nearly always taxable, even amongst close family. There are some specific exceptions. I think France isn't alone in this respect so I guess people hear of other people paying tax on gifts elsewhere and wonder if it's the case in the UK, which as others have said it isn't

Caddyshack

14,220 posts

230 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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zbc said:
Sheepshanks said:
She doesn’t work for you, does she?


Your question comes up quite regularly on here - I’m intrigued to know where do people get the idea from that gifts are taxable?
I live in France where gifts are nearly always taxable, even amongst close family. There are some specific exceptions. I think France isn't alone in this respect so I guess people hear of other people paying tax on gifts elsewhere and wonder if it's the case in the UK, which as others have said it isn't
France tax pretty much everything. I believe 40 to 60% of the working population are employed in some govt. paid role…I guess that all has to be paid for somehow.